Ireland vs France buildup (Madigan in for ROG, squad in OP)

thomond2006

All over Twitter that ROG has been dropped from the squad, I can't find official confirmation.

EDIT: Confirmed

Squad:

Hookers: Best, Cronin

Props: Healy, Kilcoyne, Ross, Fitzpatrick

Locks: McCarthy, Ryan, O'Callaghan, Toner, Tuohy

Backrows: O'Mahony, O'Brien, Heaslip, Henderson, Diack, O'Donnell

Scrumhalves: Murray, Reddan

Flyhalves: Sexton, Jackson, Madigan

Centres: Marshall, O'Driscoll, O'Malley

Back 3: Earls, Gilroy, Fitzgerald, McFadden, Trimble, R Kearney, D Kearney

Pudsy33

I can't believe it!

irishbucsfan

Who is actually tweeting it?

Quint2010

I smell a bust up...

Tox56

Assuming this is true (!!) it's the right decision, and in many respects the obvious decision, but credit to Kidney for making it at least. It would be a bit of a shame if ROG's last act in an Irish jersey was the crap pass to Marshall that ended the game v Scotland, but there's not room for sentiment

thomond2006

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Who is actually tweeting it?

Everyone is retweeting a tweet from @IndoRugby, but when I went onto their account the tweet wasn't there...

danthefan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Everyone is retweeting a tweet from @IndoRugby, but when I went onto their account the tweet wasn't there...

Tweet is here: https://twitter.com/Independent_ie

Pudsy33

danthefan wrote: »

Tweet is here: https://twitter.com/Independent_ie

And its gone again

thomond2006

danthefan wrote: »

Tweet is here: https://twitter.com/Independent_ie

I can't see it dan!

danthefan

Pudsy33 wrote: »

And its gone again

It's there for me. 2nd one down.

thomond2006

If the Indo is trolling us, I'm gonna...

You wouldn't put it past them.

bennyl10

Absolutely atrocious decision. Madigan is unproven, Sexton is injured, and Jackson can't kick for goal anyway reliably.. To drop ROG, especially has he had a decent game last night, screams a coach who is running out of ideas. if ROG is gone Kidney should follow.

thomond2006

bennyl10 wrote: »

Absolutely atrocious decision. Madigan is unproven, Sexton is injured, and Jackson can't kick for goal anyway reliably.. To drop ROG, especially has he had a decent game last night, screams a coach who is running out of ideas. if ROG is gone Kidney should follow.

Give Madigan a chance to prove himself?

Pudsy33

bennyl10 wrote: »

Absolutely atrocious decision. Madigan is unproven, Sexton is injured, and Jackson can't kick for goal anyway reliably.. To drop ROG, especially has he had a decent game last night, screams a coach who is running out of ideas. if ROG is gone Kidney should follow.

Totally agree, but for a completely opposite reason

Quint2010

danthefan wrote: »

It's there for me. 2nd one down.

The second tweet down is something about Enda Kenny planting a tree somewhere which, if true, is sensational news and will rock boards.ie to its very foundations...

danthefan

bennyl10 wrote: »

Absolutely atrocious decision. Madigan is unproven, Sexton is injured, and Jackson can't kick for goal anyway reliably.. To drop ROG, especially has he had a decent game last night, screams a coach who is running out of ideas. if ROG is gone Kidney should follow.

What a bizarre post.

1. Dropping ROG is a brand spanking new idea.
2. He had his first decent (and no more) game in a long while against a poor Ospreys side. He still has major deficiencies in his game.
3. I want Kidney gone as much as anyone but the dropping of ROG is a mark in his favour if anything. Would you like to see the result of the game maybe first?

decisions

I don't believe it. Obviously it's the correct call but I don't believe kidney would do it.

bennyl10

I agreed with not starting him, but not dropped..
His recent games haven't exactlly been bad, no worse than Jackson has been having.

If ROG i dropped, do we put Madigan as a sub with a starting jackson.. after last week?..

decisions

Unless Johnny is fit?

Taco Corp

If true and assuming it's Madigan, thankfully no Rabo games for the next few weeks.

P_1

Right call, these matches have nothing riding on them, we know ROG doesn't have much gas left in the tank, perfect chance to build up some strength in depth in key positions.

bennyl10

decisions wrote: »

Unless Johnny is fit?

of course.
If Johnny is back, then Jackson becomes sub and in that scenario I can understand it.

Whats this about The Bull?!!

thomond2006

bennyl10 wrote: »

I agreed with not starting him, but not dropped..
His recent games haven't exactlly been bad, no worse than Jackson has been having.

If ROG i dropped, do we put Madigan as a sub with a starting jackson.. after last week?..

Scarlets...

decisions

bennyl10 wrote: »

I agreed with not starting him, but not dropped..
His recent games haven't exactlly been bad, no worse than Jackson has been having.

If ROG i dropped, do we put Madigan as a sub with a starting jackson.. after last week?..

Jackson had a very good game last week kicking aside. Madigan has been playing superbly too.

ROG has been shocking recently, he had one of his better games last night but he has not been able to justify his selections.

ray jay

Sexton being fit is the most likely explanation.

bennyl10 wrote: »

His recent games haven't exactlly been bad, no worse than Jackson has been having.

He was ok last night but poor for several games before that. The only problem with Jackson was his kicking but he got 7 from 9 last night so that's that.

opinionatedfan

ROG played well for his standards last night, but he should be nowhere near the team.

ray jay

Considering how quickly the tweet was deleted, there's no point in getting worked up about it.

decisions

bennyl10 wrote: »

Whats this about The Bull?!!

Ah, that's just thomond looking to wear his John Hayes pajamas :pac:

vapor trails

Imagine if this was kidney kite flying just like a finance minister just before a budget. Put the idea out there and see how people react

tolosenc

danthefan wrote: »

It's there for me. 2nd one down.

Could link to the tweet itself? (Click the time in the top right of the tweet and that'll bring you to a page with just that tweet).

Glass Prison 1214

I have checked and rechecked, the tweet is still there for me

irishbucsfan

Haven't seen it yet myself. Although surely in this case there wouldn't be smoke without fire?

Maybe they were asked to keep it hushed for some reason


Or maybe it's just the Indo getting it wrong.

ray jay

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

I have checked and rechecked, the tweet is still there for me

Link it.

Glass Prison 1214

ray jay wrote: »

Link it.

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie there you go, its still the second tweet for me.

vienne86

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

I have checked and rechecked, the tweet is still there for me

Me too.....and I seldom use twitter and know damn all about it!!!!

decisions

Throw up a screenshot.

phog

thomond2006 wrote: »

All over Twitter that ROG has been dropped from the squad, I can't find official confirmation.

All over twiiter from the same source and now withdrawn.

ray jay

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie there you go, its still the second tweet for me.

Not for others though. Try this:

tolosenc wrote: »

Could link to the tweet itself? (Click the time in the top right of the tweet and that'll bring you to a page with just that tweet).

decisions wrote: »

Throw up a screenshot.

Someone took a screenshot already.
https://twitter.com/andymcgeady/status/308260668925165568

Deano7788

ray jay wrote: »

Not for others though. Try this:

Tried it there, comes up that the page doesn't exist

thomond2006

You can't put up something on Twitter and delete it five minutes later expecting people not to notice...

bennyl10

The delete of the tweet either means the IRFU hit back and forced the deletion.. or it's in fact not true at all and sources ****ed up big..

phog

I wouldn't be surprised if he has an injury, in his warm up last night and after one of his kicks at goal he was rubbing his thigh. Prior to the squad coming out for warm up I was watching, ROG, Keatley, Sheridan and Williams go through their routines and thought ROG was a doubt.

thomond2006

bennyl10 wrote: »

The delete of the tweet either means the IRFU hit back and forced the deletion.. or it's in fact not true at all and sources ****ed up big..

Jesus I don't think the IRFU illuminati could act that quickly!

bennyl10

phog wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if he has an injury, in his warm up last night and after one of his kicks at goal he was rubbing his thigh. Prior to the squad coming out for warm up I was watching, ROG, Keatley, Sheridan and Williams go through their routines and thought ROG was a doubt.

noticed myself, during the warm up ROG was the last of the kickers to come out, and on the teams entrance to the stadium, Keatley was talking a lot to Penney with ROG talking a lot to the physio

source: Steward in Thomond myself

bennyl10

thomond2006 wrote: »

Jesus I don't think the IRFU illuminati could act that quickly!

there was bound to be a time when they'd finally act on something :P

Suasdaguna1

Quint2010 wrote: »

The second tweet down is something about Enda Kenny planting a tree somewhere which, if true, is sensational news and will rock boards.ie to its very foundations...

No it won't......beware though of the sting of a dying wasp as in deccie. Wouldn't surprise me ROG gets the flick.

playedalive

Snapshot of the tweet please?

danthefan

Newtalk reporting Sexton and Madigan in the squad, ROG out.

Pudsy33

danthefan wrote: »

Newtalk reporting Sexton and Madigan in the squad, ROG out.

Jackson out too? WTF!?

donfers

if true, what an ignominous end to the career of an all-time Irish rugby legend, he's gone out on rather a low which is a shame for one of our greats

Quint2010

Indo now offically confirming ROG out but Jackson still in squad...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ronan-ogara-dropped-from-irish-squad-for-france-29105888.html