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Info on medals

  • 02-03-2013 3:14pm
    #1
    El Guapo!
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    A friend of my dad has these medals in his house and was trying to find out any info on them.....were they common? Who were they given to etc? And are they worth anything?
    If anybody can get any info on this for me I'd be grateful.
    I've attached the photos front and back of the medals.


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  • #2
    ChunkyLover_53
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    The first 3 are the Victory Medal, British War Medal & 1914-15 Star

    14-15 Star
    British War Medal
    Victory Medal

    The last one is the Emergency Service Medal given to Irish troops who served between 1939-1946

    All medals may have a service number engraved somewhere, you can get more info about the soldier through his service number


  • #3
    El Guapo!
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    Thanks for that. Regarding the 3 medals together I doubt there's any value to them if they were so common.
    But I wonder is the irish medal worth anything?


  • #4
    El Guapo!
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    Also, the soldiers name and number is stamped on one of the medals, how would I go about finding info on him? I've tried searching a bit but no info is showing up.


  • #5
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    You could contact Military Archives in Cathal Brugha Barracks in Rathmines.

    Or here

    Best of luck buddy!


  • #6
    El Guapo!
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    Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »
    You could contact Military Archives in Cathal Brugha Barracks in Rathmines.

    Or here

    Best of luck buddy!

    Thanks mate, ill give them a try. :)


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  • #7
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Thanks mate, ill give them a try. :)

    It may take a while to get an answer...they are usually up to their tities!

    Just leave the details with them and tell them what info you want and they will do their best.


  • #8
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    A friend of my dad has these medals in his house and was trying to find out any info on them.....were they common? Who were they given to etc? And are they worth anything?
    If anybody can get any info on this for me I'd be grateful.
    I've attached the photos front and back of the medals.

    is that 3794 Pte G(eorge) Eustace, Manchester Regiment on the back of the 1914-15 Star?

    if so, he was also in the Liverpool Regiment, number 353032. Entered Balkans theatre of war (Gallipoli) 30/9/1915.

    What name, rank and number are etched on the rim of the Victory Medal and British War Medal?


    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm


  • #9
    El Guapo!
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    johnny_doyle wrote: »

    is that 3794 Pte G(eorge) Eustace, Manchester Regiment on the back of the 1914-15 Star?

    if so, he was also in the Liverpool Regiment, number 353032. Entered Balkans theatre of war (Gallipoli) 30/9/1915.

    What name, rank and number are etched on the rim of the Victory Medal and British War Medal?


    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm
    Yeah that's the right name and number on the back of the medal. God bless your eyesight!
    Thanks for that!
    I don't know what's on the other medals but ill check tomorrow when I'm back in my das house ill have a look.


  • #10
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    there's no service record for George Eustace that I can find.

    The following battalions from the Manchester Regiment landed in Gallipoli

    1/5th landed 6th May 1915
    1/9th landed 10/5/1916
    11th landed 30/6/1915

    All evac'd late December 1915 (around the 28th). The Liverpool Regt did not serve in Gallipoli.

    His landing date suggests that he was in a draft of replacements.

    The transfer from the Manchesters to the Liverpool Regt suggests a period out of action (either wounds or sickness) followed by a re-allocation to another regiment. At this time, numbers were regimental numbers and so he changed numbers. A while after the Great War, the BA adopted Army numbers rather than just regimental numbers.

    Experts on either regiment would be able to suggest dates relating to the numbers. If you want me to post an enquiry on the Great War Forum let me know.


  • #11
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Thanks for that info that's a great help. It's a pity there's no records on him personally. I'd be really interested to find out more about him.
    If anyone on The Great War forum was able to find out more info that'd be great, but I wouldn't hold out much hope since there's no record on him. When I was trying to do a bit of research myself, I read that a lot of records were destroyed in the bombings during WW2.


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  • #12
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    I'll post a query on the GWF and see if there is anything that can be found the dates of the regiment numbers.

    Yes, a huge amount of records were destroyed by the Blitz in WW2. Some of the records that survived are burnt and/or water damaged. There is generally more information available for soldiers died/killed than there is for soldiers who survived.

    There are a number of entries for the surname Eustace from Ireland in Soldiers died in the Great War and in Ireland's Memorial Records. Only a couple of these appear on the Irish War Memorials website

    http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/persons.php?section=E

    The only will that appears online for an Irish soldier from WW1 is for Dublin born William Eustace, killed in 1916

    http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/reels/sw/EustaceW_E176290.pdf

    Do you have any more info re George Eustace via the family? Age, wife, place of birth/death etc to track him on the census records etc? Any siblings who may have served?


  • #13
    tac foley
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    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Thanks for that info that's a great help. It's a pity there's no records on him personally. I'd be really interested to find out more about him.
    If anyone on The Great War forum was able to find out more info that'd be great, but I wouldn't hold out much hope since there's no record on him. When I was trying to do a bit of research myself, I read that a lot of records were destroyed in the bombings during WW2.


    That's true, the ARO in London, where many of the pre-WW2 records were kept, was destroyed in the early days of the Blitz. Every one of my grandfather's documents shows either water or fire damage, or both.

    tac


  • #14
    johnny_doyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    the GWF forum is bearing some fruit for George Eustace

    http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=191707&hl=


  • #15
    johnny_doyle
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    looks like I was totally wrong about there being no service record for George Eustace. He appears to have moved to Salford. When re-enlising after the war, he gives his son Arthur as next of kin with an address as Phoenix Gate, Phoenix Park, Dublin.

    Does the family have any link to Sherrard Avenue? The address is in the service record and there is a record of a James Eustace of Sherrard Avenue enlisting.


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