pistol import from the US

apacheah64

Hello everybody.
I'm wondering if you can help me.
I bought a few pistols while working in the states a couple of years ago and I'm wondering about what are the chances of me being able to import them back to ireland.
Thanks a lot.

bravestar

apacheah64 wrote: »

Hello everybody.
I'm wondering if you can help me.
I bought a few pistols while working in the states a couple of years ago and I'm wondering about what are the chances of me being able to import them back to ireland.
Thanks a lot.

As long as they are .22lr and the magazines are restricted to 5 rounds its possible.

If they are center fire, forget it.

flutered

sorry to butt in, but whats the story with a tazer gun.

apacheah64

Hello bravestar, thanks for your reply.
I have heard that only .22lr are allowed but is'nt there a 'restricted firearm' application process. I suppose thats just a veneer that the authorities project in order to make it seem like they would entertain your request.
Thanks.

Witcher

flutered wrote: »

sorry to butt in, but whats the story with a tazer gun.

No hope.

apacheah64 wrote: »

Hello bravestar, thanks for your reply.
I have heard that only .22lr are allowed but is'nt there a 'restricted firearm' application process. I suppose thats just a veneer that the authorities project in order to make it seem like they would entertain your request.
Thanks.

No restricted licences being issued for pistols. It's a 5 shot, .22lr or nothing.

apacheah64

Hello blay, thanks for the information.
Grand, thanks.

bravestar

flutered wrote: »

sorry to butt in, but whats the story with a tazer gun.

As Blay already said, no. 100% illegal to possess and no possible form of licence exists.

tac foley

Why would a civilian want a TASER?

tac

harmoniums

tac foley wrote: »

Why would a civilian want a TASER?

tac

Non lethal self defense I would assume.

bravestar

harmoniums wrote: »

Non lethal self defense I would assume.

...less lethal... Non lethal would imply that it cannot be lethal

IRLConor

bravestar wrote: »

As Blay already said, no. 100% illegal to possess and no possible form of licence exists.

While I don't know of a way of getting a license for one, there is a fee for such a license. Have a look at the last item in the table here: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2007/en/act/pub/0011/sec0068.html#sec68

UCDVet

bravestar wrote: »

...less lethal... Non lethal would imply that it cannot be lethal

By that definition wouldn't every tangible item be 'less lethal'? If you really wanted to you could kill me with a cell phone or a pencil or a pair of socks.

bravestar

IRLConor wrote: »

While I don't know of a way of getting a license for one, there is a fee for such a license. Have a look at the last item in the table here: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2007/en/act/pub/0011/sec0068.html#sec68

I guess there is a fee, but no process that I am aware of. Im no legal expert, Im only required to have a working knowledge

UCDVet wrote: »

By that definition wouldn't every tangible item be 'less lethal'? If you really wanted to you could kill me with a cell phone or a pencil or a pair of socks.

Well Jason Bourne probably could alright, but a cell phone and socks are not purpose built weapons, they are makeshift weapons. A Taser, belongs to a set of tools called less lethal weapons. That would also include OC and CS spray/gas, batons, bean bag rounds, ferret rounds etc etc. I didn't make up the term less lethal, Im just letting the poster know what it is actually called.

Grizzly 45

bravestar wrote: »

I guess there is a fee, but no process that I am aware of. Im no legal expert, Im only required to have a working knowledge



Well Jason Bourne probably could alright, but a cell phone and socks are not purpose built weapons, they are makeshift weapons. A Taser, belongs to a set of tools called less lethal weapons. That would also include OC and CS spray/gas, batons, bean bag rounds, ferret rounds etc etc. I didn't make up the term less lethal, Im just letting the poster know what it is actually called.

Just on a point .The OC/CS gas could only become more or less leathl would be if you were locked in a sealed room and all the air was replaced with CS gas or you were drowned in a very souped up Tobasco sauce vat.
There are people out there that cook extreme chilli con carne with pepper spray.:eek:

Bean bags,Ferret rounds,baton,plastic rounds etc certainly should be classed a leathl ammo as they all have kills associated with them thru misuse by LE agencies worldwide.

bravestar

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Just on a point .The OC/CS gas could only become more or less leathl would be if you were locked in a sealed room and all the air was replaced with CS gas or you were drowned in a very souped up Tobasco sauce vat.
There are people out there that cook extreme chilli con carne with pepper spray.:eek:

Bean bags,Ferret rounds,baton,plastic rounds etc certainly should be classed a leathl ammo as they all have kills associated with them thru misuse by LE agencies worldwide.

OC/CS has been involved in the death of people and seen as a contributing factor although not the primary cause.

To says deaths have been caused by misuse of the other weapons seems like a cheap shot to be honest. Death has also been caused by there legitimate use by LE agencys as well. It was not the *Insert Police name here* fault someone decided to do whatever they did to cause the situation. However, many more people have been subdued by the use of these less lethal options and there use meant that lethal force was not required.

Anyway, I think were straying just a tad from the OP's question.:D

EWQuinn

From Wiki" "Taser devices are not considered firearms by the United States government. They can be legally carried (concealed or open) without a permit in 43 states. They are prohibited for citizen use in the District of Columbia, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, and Rhode Island, as well as certain cities and counties. Their use in Connecticut, Illinois, and Wisconsin is legal with restrictions."

It says they are illegal or prohibited in Ireland and UK, and restricted in various forms in other countries. They turn up now and again in assault or murder cases in the US, in some highly visible cases having been used as a means to incapacitate prior to the primary crime.

In the US the law enforcement versions have a range of 35 feet, civilian 15 feet, and if you've seen them demonstrated, they incapacitate only as long as the juice is flowing, after which the subject immediately regains control of their body. Also pretty pricey. I won't be looking for one any time soon.

Oh yes, back to the topic. Ok if I were you based upon everything I've seen, I would sell the pistols in the US and make some money (which you can if they are semi -auto 9mm, 40s or 45s, and even revolvers are in high demand right now), and buy a nice .22 pistol and/or rifle(s) in ROI.