LIME SPREADING

hugo29

would a man be wasting his money spreading lime now, I know the milder the weather the better but with this weather ground is fit to travel and i dont want to lose the chance
all opinions welcome

bbam

On some of the gran-lime websites it says you can spread any time of year.

merryberry

hugo29 wrote: »

would a man be wasting his money spreading lime now, I know the milder the weather the better but with this weather ground is fit to travel and i dont want to lose the chance
all opinions welcome

ground limestone can b applied at anytime during year. Safe to graze once dust disappears of the grass leaf. Unfortunately the land will not gain the benefit immediately. It can take some time for the neutralising effects to work...a year maybe. Some restrictions with urea applications after lime is applied in that the effects of urea applications can b reduced when it is spread on fields within a few weeks of lime been applied. Working lime into the soil at reseeding is more responsive.

st1979

merryberry wrote: »

ground limestone can b applied at anytime during year. Safe to graze once dust disappears of the grass leaf. Unfortunately the land will not gain the benefit immediately. It can take some time for the neutralising effects to work...a year maybe. Some restrictions with urea applications after lime is applied in that the effects of urea applications can b reduced when it is spread on fields within a few weeks of lime been applied. Working lime into the soil at reseeding is more responsive.

Yea i saw a very fast result with lime power harrowed in ploughed land.

bob charles

get it on once ground is travelable, often applied with stock in fields and makes no odds. Make sure you need to apply lime firstly though

hugo29

bob charles wrote: »

get it on once ground is travelable, often applied with stock in fields and makes no odds. Make sure you need to apply lime firstly though

sound will call man today, its in bad need of lime,

merryberry

bob charles wrote: »

get it on once ground is travelable, often applied with stock in fields and makes no odds. Make sure you need to apply lime firstly though

bob...surely lime ingestion can't be good for an animal. Only going on what my advisor told me in that it can cause scouring.

bogman_bass

plenty of finishers in the uk add 100g/head/day of ground limestone to diets so i wouldnt be too worried

bob charles

merryberry wrote: »

bob...surely lime ingestion can't be good for an animal. Only going on what my advisor told me in that it can cause scouring.

bit of extra calcium wont do the animal any harm, Them bones, them bones need calcium

RobinBanks

I got lime put out the other day. 3ton per acre. I told the lad that was spreading that I will need another 2 ton per acre next year on all the ground. He thought I was mad that it was way to much and that 3ton per acre was already allot. I was only telling him what was on the soil analysis that came back from teagasc who recommend 10ton per ha split over 2 years. My PH was 5.6. It does sound like allot.

Does this amount of lime seem unusually high to you?

td5man

RobinBanks wrote: »

I got lime put out the other day. 3ton per acre. I told the lad that was spreading that I will need another 2 ton per acre next year on all the ground. He thought I was mad that it was way to much and that 3ton per acre was already allot. I was only telling him what was on the soil analysis that came back from teagasc who recommend 10ton per ha split over 2 years. My PH was 5.6. It does sound like allot.

Does this amount of lime seem unusually high to you?

Got a similar result for one field last year

pakalasa

RobinBanks wrote: »

I got lime put out the other day. 3ton per acre. I told the lad that was spreading that I will need another 2 ton per acre next year on all the ground. He thought I was mad that it was way to much and that 3ton per acre was already allot. I was only telling him what was on the soil analysis that came back from teagasc who recommend 10ton per ha split over 2 years. My PH was 5.6. It does sound like allot.

Does this amount of lime seem unusually high to you?

Was this a field you spread a lot of slurry on, over the years?

merryberry

RobinBanks wrote: »

I got lime put out the other day. 3ton per acre. I told the lad that was spreading that I will need another 2 ton per acre next year on all the ground. He thought I was mad that it was way to much and that 3ton per acre was already allot. I was only telling him what was on the soil analysis that came back from teagasc who recommend 10ton per ha split over 2 years. My PH was 5.6. It does sound like allot.

Does this amount of lime seem unusually high to you?

pH 5.6 is not unusual, is very acid and it would need a lot of lime to correct the pH imbalance. The soil sample shouldn't lie, however, the lime spreading contractor could be right. Too much on some soils can be bad especially when applied on peaty soils or soils were the underlying bedrock is carboniferous shale (soil can be more prone to poaching as lime loosens the soil) or applied on high molydenum soils (leading to copper deficiency).

jomoloney

RobinBanks wrote: »

I got lime put out the other day. 3ton per acre. I told the lad that was spreading that I will need another 2 ton per acre next year on all the ground. He thought I was mad that it was way to much and that 3ton per acre was already allot. I was only telling him what was on the soil analysis that came back from teagasc who recommend 10ton per ha split over 2 years. My PH was 5.6. It does sound like allot.

Does this amount of lime seem unusually high to you?

the contractor is correct you most likely will loose about 30% efficiency of the 3 ton


1.5 ton/ac every third year would be the way I would go

RobinBanks

pakalasa wrote: »

Was this a field you spread a lot of slurry on, over the years?

Some fields got slurry others didnt. The whole farm is low Pak.

99nsr125

jomoloney wrote: »

the contractor is correct you most likely will loose about 30% efficiency of the 3 ton


1.5 ton/ac every third year would be the way I would go

I've never heard the above before, could you expand a bit.

Thanks in advance

hugo29

i spread 2 ton per acre yesterday, when i had fields sampled it was showing a requirement of 8 ton per acre, my advisor worked out the ratio, you half the amount shown, then spread the balance over max 2 ton per acre every 2 years

so i need to spread 2 ton per acre again in 2015, dont ask how he came up with that, i meant to find out but never did

td5man

hugo29 wrote: »

i spread 2 ton per acre yesterday, when i had fields sampled it was showing a requirement of 8 ton per acre, my advisor worked out the ratio, you half the amount shown, then spread the balance over max 2 ton per acre every 2 years

so i need to spread 2 ton per acre again in 2015, dont ask how he came up with that, i meant to find out but never did

Local contractor recomends 2 tonne every 2years as well

freedominacup

td5man wrote: »

Local contractor recomends 2 tonne every 2years as well

Standard rule of thumb. Anymore than 2 tonne at a time is waste. Land uses around .5tonne/year so in 2 years time you'll be a tonne up in 4 years 2 tonne etc. 8 tonne will take a good bit of clawing back. Lime spreading gave the grandfather his start and them have been the rules since the get-go back in the 50's with the subsidised spreading.

razor8

how soon after spreading slurry could you go with lime, ive slurry out 6 weeks now?

pakalasa

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razor8

pakalasa wrote: »

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Thats the job!

bob charles

spread urea on grazing land yesterday and will go with lime tomorrow, once urea is washed in its grand if I recall.

sh1tstirrer

bob charles wrote: »

spread urea on grazing land yesterday and will go with lime tomorrow, once urea is washed in its grand if I recall.

I thought that you couldn't use urea after lime as it will stop urea from working. Yours will be washed in but it will take time for it to work which will be affected by the lime

delaval

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

I thought that you couldn't use urea after lime as it will stop urea from working. Yours will be washed in but it will take time for it to work which will be affected by the lime

Lime after urea is fine the other way around you may need 2-3 mths