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cardinal keith o brien resigns - Scotland

  • 25-02-2013 11:02am
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    newspaper allegations of inappropriate behaviour with priests

    would have resigned at 75 anyway in a few weeks time

    standing aside , won't be voting for the pope


    only UK cardinal who could have voted for pope, 3rd Scottish cardinal since reformation etc.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-21572559
    The Vatican has said it will look into claims that Britain's most senior Roman Catholic behaved "inappropriately" towards four priests in the 1980s.

    Cardinal Keith O'Brien strongly contests the allegations, which were made in Sunday's Observer newspaper.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    at least its alleged that he was with someone hos own age and not a child


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There seems to be a high proportion of gay men in the priesthood,don't see what the attraction is.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    given the timing , how likely is it to be a hatchet job ?


    'suppose it's like the cop with a week to retirement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    kneemos wrote: »
    There seems to be a high proportion of gay men in the priesthood,don't see what the attraction is.

    At what point does it stop becoming a pristhood and start becoming a gay club?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    At what point does it stop becoming a pristhood and start becoming a gay club?

    Chaps would be an indicator.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    kneemos wrote: »
    There seems to be a high proportion of gay men in the priesthood,don't see what the attraction is.

    For a lot of men, it's an easier way to deal with being gay than coming out. Especially if they're quite religious already, and would have moral problems with the fact that they're gay.
    They join the priesthood, take a vow of chastity, and problem solved. (In theory of course)
    That's my take on it anyway..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    kneemos wrote: »
    Chaps would be an indicator.

    When they're still wearing black with a white collar, except it's made from leather and the collar has spikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,730 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Was he not just in the papers advocating priests marrying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Table Top Joe


    Sauve wrote: »
    For a lot of men, it's an easier way to deal with being gay than coming out. Especially if they're quite religious already, and would have moral problems with the fact that they're gay.
    They join the priesthood, take a vow of chastity, and problem solved. (In theory of course)
    That's my take on it anyway..



    And no ones going to question why a grown man has willingly given up a sex life with the opposite sex,under any other circumstances this makes you a bloody weirdo,as a priest your admired for it(used to be anyway)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Sauve wrote: »
    For a lot of men, it's an easier way to deal with being gay than coming out. Especially if they're quite religious already, and would have moral problems with the fact that they're gay.
    They join the priesthood, take a vow of chastity, and problem solved. (In theory of course)
    That's my take on it anyway..

    Also, a person with peadophilic tendencies would be attracted to the priesthood, there was enormous respect for priests back in the day and it was the perfect setup to abuse. Nobody would believe that the priest would be abusing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    kneemos wrote: »
    There seems to be a high proportion of gay men in the priesthood,don't see what the attraction is.

    Elementary my dear Watson keemos - more gay men!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve



    Also, a person with peadophilic tendencies would be attracted to the priesthood, there was enormous respect for priests back in the day and it was the perfect setup to abuse. Nobody would believe that the priest would be abusing.

    There's no question of paedophilia here, simply 'imappropriate actions with other men.'

    Don't blur the two!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Balmed Out wrote: »
    Was he not just in the papers advocating priests marrying?
    Yes, a convenient interview last week knowing that by the time this story broke he would have resigned .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 339 ✭✭docmol


    He had some "outspoken" views on homosexuality and turns out to be gay....
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Balmed Out wrote: »
    Was he not just in the papers advocating priests marrying?

    Yes

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    But wasn't there something about 'innapropriate actions'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Oh look, another homophobe isn't exactly practicing what he preaches. Nothing new here apart from how senior he is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Elementary my dear Watson keemos - more gay men!

    Pretty extreme if all you want is to meet more gay men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    docmol wrote: »
    He had some "outspoken" views on homosexuality and turns out to be gay....
    :D
    Stonewall called him biggot of the year apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    docmol wrote: »
    He had some "outspoken" views on homosexuality and turns out to be gay....
    :D
    Shocked? This stuff happens in everyday life too. They're just a fuked up crowd altogether


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Stonewall called him biggot of the year apparently.

    It's grand, now Stonewall can call him faggot of the year :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    So he asked 4 priests to kiss his ring?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    At what point does it stop becoming a pristhood and start becoming a gay club?

    Right about when they decided marrying women was not allowed. Was that not indication enough :D:p:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Sauve wrote: »
    But wasn't there something about 'innapropriate actions'?

    If you're a RC cardinal especially one that makes an issue out of homosexuality, then what he's accused of would be 'inappropriate actions' .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    kneemos wrote: »
    Pretty extreme if all you want is to meet more gay men.

    Yeah! But gay men in uniform and already wearing collar for leash :D


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