Is it time to retire my current runners?

BenMicheal

The age old question - when to change runners!!

Bought a pair of asics in June ran the Marathon in them and have clocked up roughly 200 miles in them. Started back into my training plan properly this week and I have finished runs with a slight soreness in my calve muscle.

The shoes themselves still have a good bit of bounce in the heel and the midsole is in good shape with little or no bounce beneath the ball of the foot. When you lie the shoe flat on the ground the right one rocks a little from side to side while the left one is flat to the floor.

I'm of the opinion that the shoes are ok for another couple of months and that the pains are just due to getting back into the swing of things!??

Advice??

kapa

There should be a good bit of wear left in those runners yet??? The rule of thumb is that they should be changed after 500 miles

Outkast_IRE

200 miles to me sounds like very little on what are usually premium priced runners.

BenMicheal

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

200 miles to me sounds like very little on what are usually premium priced runners.

Exactly! Dont fancy forking out money for a pair again already!

500 miles, 300miles, injuries, sole bounce it's a pain in the arse tryna figure out when they are spent!!

Murph_D

You've barely broken them in!

pconn062

BenMicheal wrote: »

Exactly! Dont fancy forking out money for a pair again already!

500 miles, 300miles, injuries, sole bounce it's a pain in the arse tryna figure out when they are spent!!

Replace them when you feel they are not supporting/protecting you like they should. If your legs keep feeling sore/tired after runs then it's probably time to change them. Don't worry about what the manufacturers recommend, their primary aim is to sell more runners and will tell you to change them after 500 miles even if you could get more out of them. I rotate a few pairs of runners and regularly get 1,000 miles out of them.

geld

BenMicheal wrote: »

Started back into my training plan properly this week....and that the pains are just due to getting back into the swing of things!??

Advice??

I would agree with this and it's not the runners. It's the runner maybe!!:D

Tipp man running

200 miles! at that rate I'd say a lot of people here would be changing runners little after one months use....Just changed mine..3 marathons and about 800 miles in them and still usable.

BenMicheal

Perfect! 100+ euro saved so!! Thanks!

Was told because of my height weight blah blah blah that they could get worn down easier etc etc! I scratch it off as leg pain from inactivity! :-p

wrstan

I always work on the principle that you should change your runners when they no longer feel good to run in. For me I have changed some pairs after 200 miles and have got a good 800 miles out of others.

Prof Benno Nigg (http://www.ucalgary.ca/hpl/nigg), professor of biomechanics from the University of Calgary wrote in a study from Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise (2001) that:
athletes "are less likely to suffer injuries when they choose running shoes that feel most comfortable"

opus

I've three pairs of Asics 2160's on rotation that are getting dangerously close to 1000m so figure once they cross into 4 figures it's time for them to go. As the 2000 is the replacement this year, looks like I'll skip the 2170 version entirely!

DrPatrickBarry

I done 20 miles last week in a 4 yr old pair of Salomons that have more holes than material in them. They are so bad it is a bit embarassing to be seen out in them and that is what will lead to their retirement rather than the soles.

I try to run forefoot so that reduces the need for padding.

dekbhoy

BenMicheal wrote: »

Perfect! 100+ euro saved so!! Thanks!

Was told because of my height weight blah blah blah that they could get worn down easier etc etc! I scratch it off as leg pain from inactivity! :-p

I bought new runners few weeks ago and had nothing but trouble with little niggles etc. I went for gait analysis again and I was told that one foot was pronating more than another possibly due to a knee injury. I was recommended specially made insoles, (47€ in Elverys) the difference so far has been noticeable,no niggles since. 200 miles is very little for a decent pair of trainers

sconhome

dekbhoy wrote: »

I bought new runners few weeks ago and had nothing but trouble with little niggles etc. I went for gait analysis again and I was told that one foot was pronating more than another possibly due to a knee injury. I was recommended specially made insoles, (47€ in Elverys) the difference so far has been noticeable,no niggles since. 200 miles is very little for a decent pair of trainers

What shoes are you wearing? What was recommended to you?

Cabaal

200, nah they'll be grand,

I clock between 600-700 on mine and even those I only had to replace because the netting part on the tops of them start developing holes in them. Base of them were fine in all cases.

dekbhoy

amphkingwest wrote: »

What shoes are you wearing? What was recommended to you?

Brooks trance.... They where recommended as I was overpronating. Previously wore neutral shoe. Apparently I my right foot is worse than left. Running half marathon on Sunday, that will be the real test to see if they suit. Apparently a tough course also so I hope for no regrets.

sconhome

dekbhoy wrote: »

Brooks trance.... They where recommended as I was overpronating. Previously wore neutral shoe. Apparently I my right foot is worse than left. Running half marathon on Sunday, that will be the real test to see if they suit. Apparently a tough course also so I hope for no regrets.

The trance should be enough without having to put an insole into it too. Just be cautious of overcorrection.

Good luck on Sunday.

runnathon

How did they say an insole will help? Isn't that just adding more padding, rather than correction - which, after all, you said differed between feet.

DrPatrickBarry

runnathon wrote: »

How did they say an insole will help? Isn't that just adding more padding, rather than correction - which, after all, you said differed between feet.

It is not a full insole, these things would be of varying widths to enact the correction

npresto

Sorry for taking the subject slightly off topic but I recently washed my running shoes in the washing machine and left them to dry on the radiator overnight.

Next morning the were still damp so I threw them into the drier for 5 mins but forgot and remembered after 50 mins.
When I took them out they were boiling hot and I could see some of the adhesive was starting to melt. :eek:

Went for a 10k run last night and my feet were killing me - the shoes have shrunk about a 1/2 size.
I only bought them in September, they have just over 800km on them and they still look brand new.

Lesson learned - shoes shrink in driers!

dekbhoy

runnathon wrote: »

How did they say an insole will help? Isn't that just adding more padding, rather than correction - which, after all, you said differed between feet.

The insole helps because its made for your exact foot. In my case one foot is overpronating more than the other. You are adding padding but I found the trance quite hard so extra cushion suits me. You also have the option of taking out sole of shoe if you find you don't have room, for me personally it is working well. I will give a better account after half marathon Sunday but training the last few days they have felt good so fingers crossed.

KillianByrne

On the flip side of this thread, how long would it take to break in a new pair of runners? I'm (just about) feeling that my current Gel Nimbus need to be changed but am in the thick of training for Limerick marathon.

Stick with them / get new ones and rotate with current ones / get new ones and ditch the current ones?

All vote now....

ThePiedPiper

I don't really believe it takes any time to break in runners to be honest with you. If you're transitioning to a runner you've never used before, it can take a bit of time to get used to that runner but when replacing like with like, I've never found any breaking in period required. I've actually debuted two pairs of shoes in races with no issues whatsoever. Not adviseable, but worked for me.

On the subject of the OP, I've three pairs of Asics still useable, I'm pretty sure each of them have between 700 and 900 miles on them, and I am not even considering repacing them yet. Also, have a pair of Mizuno Elixir with 10 marathons, and a good few other races and training on them, so I figure at least 500 miles, and they're still relatively fresh. I'd consider 200 miles to be just about out of the box.

lynchieboy

I just set a PB in the Tralee marathon in a pair of asics that you wouldn't see a homeless tramp wearing, not even a hint of a blister, wore them last year at the conn ultra and a 50 mile trail marathon in England, into the washing machine and came out in showroom condition good for another couple thousand miles. Bounce gone my BOLLOCKS the only bounce I need is in my legs.

DrPatrickBarry

lynchieboy wrote: »

Bounce gone my BOLLOCKS the only bounce I need is in my legs.

Well said, maybe a few people need to read "Born to Run" before considering buying yet another pair of trainers becasue the old ones are "worn out"

Murph_D

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