Sinn Féin,s "Republic Day".

Sunnyisland

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0221/368919-sinn-fein-republic-day/


Sinn Féin has published legislation that would create an extra bank holiday, to be called "Republic Day".
Party spokesperson Aengus Ó Snodaigh said the holiday would be on 24 April, the anniversary of the reading of the 1916 Proclamation outside the GPO by Padraig Pearse.
Mr Ó Snodaigh said this would bring Ireland, which currently has nine bank holidays, closer to the European average of 11.
He said the holiday would mark the sacrifice of men and women who gave their lives in pursuit of an independent Irish Republic.
Asked if that included members of the Provisional IRA who died in the course of the Troubles, Mr Ó Snodaigh said it did.



Well would you be in favor of having such a day ?

After hours answer, I would, anything for an extra paid day of.

Serious answer, Cant see it happening especially as it includes P IRA members. But I would be in favor of it.

Icemancometh

realies wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0221/368919-sinn-fein-republic-day/


Sinn Féin has published legislation that would create an extra bank holiday, to be called "Republic Day".
Party spokesperson Aengus Ó Snodaigh said the holiday would be on 24 April, the anniversary of the reading of the 1916 Proclamation outside the GPO by Padraig Pearse.
Mr Ó Snodaigh said this would bring Ireland, which currently has nine bank holidays, closer to the European average of 11.
He said the holiday would mark the sacrifice of men and women who gave their lives in pursuit of an independent Irish Republic.
Asked if that included members of the Provisional IRA who died in the course of the Troubles, Mr Ó Snodaigh said it did.



Well would you be in favor of having such a day ?

After hours answer, I would, anything for an extra paid day of.

Serious answer, Cant see it happening especially as it includes P IRA members. But I would be in favor of it.

Whatever about the historical significance, it's the wrong time of the year. Too close to may bank holiday and Easter.

P_1

An extra bank holiday can only be a good thing really

mattjack

We could have a Safe Opening Bank Holiday too.

Mint Sauce

realies wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0221/368919-sinn-fein-republic-day/


Sinn Féin has published legislation that would create an extra bank holiday, to be called "Republic Day".
Party spokesperson Aengus Ó Snodaigh said the holiday would be on 24 April, the anniversary of the reading of the 1916 Proclamation outside the GPO by Padraig Pearse.
Mr Ó Snodaigh said this would bring Ireland, which currently has nine bank holidays, closer to the European average of 11.
He said the holiday would mark the sacrifice of men and women who gave their lives in pursuit of an independent Irish Republic.
Asked if that included members of the Provisional IRA who died in the course of the Troubles, Mr Ó Snodaigh said it did.



Well would you be in favor of having such a day ?

After hours answer, I would, anything for an extra paid day of.

Serious answer, Cant see it happening especially as it includes P IRA members. But I would be in favor of it.

Or another day to get double pay.

Seriously though, its a good idea I suppose to celebrate the country becoming a republic, but I think the suggestion has been hijaked already. Not sure who it was this morning, but they suggested it be used to celebrate all republican volunteers, before and after 1916.

The war republican volunteers have fought during the troubles and since was/is totally different to that during the civil war, and cant see most law abiding people celebrating them.

Sunnyisland

I agree lets bank another holiday.

biko

Is maith sin

Roger_007

I always thought that Easter was recognised as the anniversary of the 1916 rising even though its on a different date every year. This sounds like Sinn Fein playing the populist card again. Sure who wouldn't want another day off for a piss-up.

Roger_007

irish-stew wrote: »

Or another day to get double pay.

Seriously though, its a good idea I suppose to celebrate the country becoming a republic, but I think the suggestion has been hijaked already. Not sure who it was this morning, but they suggested it be used to celebrate all republican volunteers, before and after 1916.

The war republican volunteers have fought during the troubles and since was/is totally different to that during the civil war, and cant see most law abiding people celebrating them.

The country didn't become a republic until 1949 and it wasn't announced outside the GPO, it was announced in Canada.

admiralofthefleet

i agree with them, we need an independence day celebration

Yamanoto

realies wrote: »

Asked if that included members of the Provisional IRA who died in the course of the Troubles, Mr Ó Snodaigh said it did.

And on that basis......it's a no from me.

Riddle101

Who's be opposed to a bank holiday really? What would be the theme of Republic Day though? fireworks? BBQs? drink?

My name is URL

Why couldn't they have organised the Rising for sometime in February? It was terribly inconsiderate of them.

The Pheasant

Although 24th April 1916 isn't our independence day, it's usually seen to be the beginning of our struggle for independence. Most other countries have an independence day - why not us?

Sunnyisland

Riddle101 wrote: »

Who's be opposed to a bank holiday really? What would be the theme of Republic Day though? fireworks? BBQs? drink?

Rpgs,drink uzis,drink,kalashkonovs,drink,cementex,drink and more drink

Murphj7

Yamanoto wrote: »

And on that basis......it's a no from me.

Time to move on. Sinn Fein has but you havent.

I believe its worth a look, be good to see country celebrating our heros.

Cienciano

As much as I'd like it, it'll turn into "Knackers in celtic jerseys day"

Dyr

We could have a commemeration day for the Irish Republic, seems as how its now a thing of the past

PogMoThoin

It's about time, it's wrong that we don't have an independence day after the struggle this country has been through

Notorious97

I'd love to see this happen, we need an official day to remember those who went out in Easter week 1916 and laid down their lives for Ireland, especially coming close to the 100th anniversary, would be nice to have it officially remembered.

If only they could see our country now, our present leaders, James Connolly would be fuming.

Anyway I hope the government consider this, after all they wouldn't be in power today if it wasn't for those people.

chughes

As Jean McConville might have said, we need this like a hole in the head.

7 7 12

Is this so they can rob the bank ?

GRMA

Great idea imo, in reality it would be confined to stuff about war of independence and 1916.

Snarky question really, he's hardly gonna say that the provos were not fighting for an Irish republic is he?

Yamanoto

Murphj7 wrote: »

Time to move on. Sinn Fein has but you havent.

I believe its worth a look, be good to see country celebrating our heros.

That's a touch odd - you're asking me to 'move on' by commemorating people, events, deeds and misdeeds spanning the guts of the previous hundred years.

As for celebrating 'our heroes', lumping the Provo's in with those who gave their lives during the Rising & War of Independence simply won't wash with many right thinking folk.

Cookie_Monster

Recognise a date to a failed state that only lasted for 3 years, pass.

Now if they were to hold it on the 6th Dec when it was actually recognised or on the 29th Dec when the constitution was officially enacted then maybe but they're both in the winter.

OldIrishWulf

realies wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0221/368919-sinn-fein-republic-day/



Well would you be in favor of having such a day ?

After hours answer, I would, anything for an extra paid day of.

Serious answer, Cant see it happening especially as it includes P IRA members. But I would be in favor of it.

Not until the british hand back the 6 counties and we have made peace with or chucked out the troublesome loyalists . I have no trouble with them (orange lot) taking seats in that dail up there in dublin .

I'm new to this boards.ie ,but I have heard people get banned for small things .With that in mind I will not express my views on what should be done with ex polititions who get massive ,whats that payment called when you retire ? I'd lump RTE broadcasters in with them .

I hope I'll get some sort of warning before someone decides to ban me . thanx .

Annasopra

mattjack wrote: »

We could have a Safe Opening Bank Holiday too.

To commemorate the Northern Bank Robbery?

oldyouth

realies wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0221/368919-sinn-fein-republic-day/
Asked if that included members of the Provisional IRA who died in the course of the Troubles, Mr Ó Snodaigh said it did.
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I'd rather go in to work in that case

jam_mac_jam

You can't have two national holidays, Other countries that have independence day don't have another day. We have st.Patrick's day already. To have another day we need to win a war..

OldIrishWulf

Yamanoto wrote: »

That's a touch odd - you're asking me to 'move on' by commemorating people, events, deeds and misdeeds spanning the guts of the previous hundred years.

As for celebrating 'our heroes', lumping the Provo's in with those who gave their lives during the Rising & War of Independence simply won't wash with many right thinking folk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS9jI12JwFY I'm not sure if thats a video I've seen before . If you do some homework and a little searching , you will realise ,the terrorists were the ones patrolling the streets and ditches and eyeballing citizens down the scope of a rifle .

Cookie_Monster

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You can't have two national holidays, Other countries that have independence day don't have another day. We have st.Patrick's day already. To have another day we need to win a war..

Of course you can.

NZ has Waitangi day and ANZAC day for instance, sure technically not a national day as such but is observed as one effectivly. We could re-brand St Patrick's day as something else, it's not exactly connected with the state in any way apart from religion anyway.

OldIrishWulf

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You can't have two national holidays, Other countries that have independence day don't have another day. We have st.Patrick's day already. To have another day we need to win a war..

St.paddy was welsh .An english servant bringing their crusade for their pope . Any one I have ever said that to has looked at me like they want to cut me in to pieces .

cml387

In a way I think a celebration of the Easter rising would be qute appropriate, inasmuch as it would commemorate just the first of a series of gigantic balls ups we have suffered as a nation since then.

OldIrishWulf

OldIrishWulf wrote: »

St.paddy was welsh .An english servant bringing their crusade for their pope . Any one I have ever said that to has looked at me like they want to cut me in to pieces .

He can't be Welsh and English. Pick one man!

Duckworth_Luas

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

You can't have two national holidays, Other countries that have independence day don't have another day. We have st.Patrick's day already. To have another day we need to win a war..

Apparently to reach the European average we need two new public holidays, so that means two wars.

I propose we first declare war on the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Once the dastardly Hapsburgs have been soundly thrashed we then declare war on the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.

jam_mac_jam

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Of course you can.

NZ has Waitangi day and ANZAC day for instance, sure technically not a national day as such but is observed as one effectivly. We could re-brand St Patrick's day as something else, it's not exactly connected with the state in any way apart from religion anyway.

Yeah, Anzac is about a war is it not?

Cookie_Monster

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Yeah, Anzac is about a war is it not?

no, rememberance.
considering the number of Irish killed down the years in various wars would it be such a bad thing to recognise, even if they weren't officially standing on the sidelines like they were supposed to?

cml387

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

He can't be Welsh and English. Pick one man!

St Patrick was neither English nor Welsh in the terms that we understand them.
But don't let that stop a troller (I don't mean you Strawberry)

OldIrishWulf

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

He can't be welsh and english. Pick one man!

He was born welsh ,and planted here by the english to bring their new religion to our muck savage ancestors who scared the crap out of them and their odd hierarchy . That's just what I believe .

Im not asking you or your friends to believe any thing I believe .

imme

Not very long ago Sinn Fein didn't recognise the 'Republic' FACT, :cool:

now they want to devote a day to it. :pac::pac::pac:

But it's not the current version but the 1916 version that they want to celebrate,

why not call it '1916 day' then?

We in the republic, live in a version of a republic, just as France has it's version of what a republic is and India and the USA......

They each have an Independence Day, I don't if there are many countries that celebrate a 'republic day'?

Celly Smunt

I for one welcome this movement.If Sinn from in power would mean more of this bank holiday stuff then they have my vote.

imme

pmcmahon wrote: »

I for one welcome this movement.If Sinn from in power would mean more of this bank holiday stuff then they have my vote.

you sound easily pleased,

here's a one cent coin!

Sinn Fein in power would also mean that we'd have to deny that we were ever in the IRA.

Basil Fawlty

The country didnt become a Republic till 1949. 1916 was the start of nearly 100 years of sectarian violence and it ruined the country. Ireland would have been so much better off continuing its parliamentary course on Independence. So no I don't want to see it as a holiday. The inclusion of the provos shows Sinn Fein haven't changed.

donvito99

Happy Love Day everyone!

GRMA

Basil Fawlty wrote: »

The country didnt become a Republic till 1949. 1916 was the start of nearly 100 years of sectarian violence and it ruined the country. Ireland would have been so much better off continuing its parliamentary course on Independence. So no I don't want to see it as a holiday. The inclusion of the provos shows Sinn Fein haven't changed.

There's no "inclusion of provos" by default, its a day to celebrate and remember 1916 and all those who fought and died for an Irish republic - who that consists of is a matter of opinion

This will simply mean that things continue as they are, parades etc to remember it, but more events all across the country and a day off to boot

Whats not to like?

Are people really so afraid of our past?

OldIrishWulf

The only crowd worse than the last govt. were the 2 main opposition parties, who are now in power . Fine geal would harp on about whatever was being discussed on Joe Duffy's liveline , some person with a micro problem . It's no wonder Fine fail failed ,with no credible opposition . Sinn Fein WERE ACTUALLY ASKING THEM TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MASSIVE OVERSPENDING oops .

imme

Basil Fawlty wrote: »

The country didnt become a Republic till 1949. 1916 was the start of nearly 100 years of sectarian violence and it ruined the country. Ireland would have been so much better off continuing its parliamentary course on Independence. So no I don't want to see it as a holiday. The inclusion of the provos shows Sinn Fein haven't changed.

A republic was declared by Pearse, Connolly etc outside the GPO

Yamanoto

OldIrishWulf wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS9jI12JwFY I'm not sure if thats a video I've seen before . If you do some homework and a little searching , you will realise ,the terrorists were the ones patrolling the streets and ditches and eyeballing citizens down the scope of a rifle .

And yet within two or three short years, the shepherds guarding their flock had somehow morphed into wolves.

The Provo's detonated 22 bombs in Belfast over a period of 80 minutes on 21st july 1972 - killing 9 people and injuring 130 others. The targets were a bus station, a hotel, a filling station and a religiously-mixed residential area on the Cavehill Road.

Those in the area had not received the bomb warning. Two women and a man died in this blast. Margaret O'Hare (37), a Catholic mother of seven children, died in her car. Her 11-year-old daughter was with her in her car and was badly injured.

Catholic Brigid Murray (65) and Protestant teenager Stephen Parker (14) were also killed. Many others were seriously injured.

Stephen Parker's father, the Rev. Joseph Parker, was only able to identify his son's body at the mortuary by the box of trick matches in his pocket, and the shirt and scout belt he had been wearing.

donvito99

TBH Republic Day isn't the snappiest name for a national holiday.

It's at risk of falling into the same category as Arthur's Day ffs.

And do Sinn Féin not have better things to be doing?

delthedriver

This is just more ****e from SF., the party without a policy.

They see this as a vote grabber.Meanwhile they have no policies on anything, who they think they are codding. ?

In opposition they are nothing but a bunch of rabble rousers and hecklers.

Our economy is in ****e and they want another bank holiday. Pity, they don't have something constructive to offer.

If in the unlikely event of SF coming to power, it would lead to mass emigration.

It is probably just a publicity stunt to direct the heat away from Adams expenses, his hideout in Donegal and his back operation in the US:D

imme

GRMA wrote: »

There's no "inclusion of provos" by default, its a day to celebrate and remember 1916 and all those who fought and died for an Irish republic - who that consists of is a matter of opinion

This will simply mean that things continue as they are, parades etc to remember it, but more events all across the country and a day off to boot

Whats not to like?

Are people really so afraid of our past?

St Patricks Day would be very close to the proposed Republic Day.
Are there to be parades on both days, we'll be paraded out.

Maybe we could have usual Texas, New York musical bands etc over for Paddys Day

and Basque Country, FARC groups etc over to march in the militaristic Republic Day parades. :P

oh, and don't forget the Palestinians.

That would work, wouldn't it. :cool:


Seriously though, there are Easter Week events organised by the government each year as it is. Does Sinn Fein just want another day off to catch votes.