Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

Overclockers postage

  • 20-02-2013 08:31PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone bought a full system off them if so how much was the postage?

    Also a second opinion on this build
    Options applied to the above product:
    - Opt Out of FREE AV Software
    - Accessories Not Selected
    - Game Controller Not Selected
    - No Headset Option (Zero Cost)
    - Speakers Not Selected
    - Monitor Not Selected
    - OcUK Tech Labs - Zaward Golf III Fan 120mm ZG3-120TL Black/White (temporarily out of stock)
    - Mouse Not Selected
    - Keyboard Not Selected
    - Full Cable Management
    - Asus PCE-N53 300Mbps Dual-Band Wireless-N600 PCI-E Adapter
    - BitFenix Alchemy Premium Modding LED Strip - Connect White 30cm
    - No Operating System
    - AX1200 Gold CMPSU-1200AXUK
    - Onboard Sound Card (ZERO COST)
    - No Hard Drive Upgrade
    - OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
    - No RAID Option (ZERO Cost)
    - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD
    - Samsung 250GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD250BW)
    - No Graphics Card Upgrade
    - HIS HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795F3G2M) with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games
    - Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (PVI332G160C9QK)
    - ASRock X79 Extreme9 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard
    - No Overclocking Options (Zero Cost)
    - Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - OEM
    - Cooler Master HAF X Gaming Tower Case - Black (RC-942)
    - Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2)



    Total price £1798.24 inc 15.50 shipping (Which i think is just inside UK)


«1

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭spix


    That's very expensive for what it is imo.

    Just put the same pc together on hardwareversand.de and it comes to under 1700 euro including build fee compared to 2050 at ocuk. There's lots of ways to save money on that build as well without losing any performance. You could get a much cheaper psu, motherboard, ram etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    i may be missing something but 1200w seems a little ott


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    indough wrote: »
    i may be missing something but 1200w seems a little ott

    The psu is needed for additional hdds and cards over time.

    The budget is around 2k and looking on a build that is as near future proof as you can get


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    There is no such thing as future proofing a pc. you're better off going for the best bang for buck. Upgrading the g-card 2-3 years down the line then doing a full upgrade 5-6 years down the line. You would build 2 high end pc's for the kind of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    spix wrote: »
    That's very expensive for what it is imo.

    Just put the same pc together on hardwareversand.de and it comes to under 1700 euro including build fee compared to 2050 at ocuk. There's lots of ways to save money on that build as well without losing any performance. You could get a much cheaper psu, motherboard, ram etc

    Just an extra thank you for that link

    For the same price on oc we now have a better Graphics card and 64Gb ram
    And 2 more Hdds and 4 more 3.0 usb slots

    Total cost €1974.24 Delivered and Built

    Looking forward to seeing how this lasts the test of Moores law :pac:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Just an extra thank you for that link

    For the same price on oc we now have a better Graphics card and 64Gb ram
    And 2 more Hdds and 4 more 3.0 usb slots

    Total cost €1974.24 Delivered and Built

    Looking forward to seeing how this lasts the test of Moores law :pac:

    WTF do you want 64GB of RAM for? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Gumbi wrote: »
    WTF do you want 64GB of RAM for? :eek:

    32Gb ram costs 187 euro

    To add the other 32 is 95 euro on top

    May as well pimp the hell out of it tbh.

    And this might be even cheaper as i am ringing them in the morning to work out the fan for the i7 (Most fans are self install)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    32Gb ram costs 187 euro

    To add the other 32 is 95 euro on top

    May as well pimp the hell out of it tbh.

    And this might be even cheaper as i am ringing them in the morning to work out the fan for the i7 (Most fans are self install)

    Its your money mate...spend how you wish..More power to ya..:cool:

    Just be sure to get win 7 PRO to handle all that ram..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    If this is a gaming computer, 64GB of RAM is a waste. You could have 8GB, and sink the... €200 saved? Into watercooling or something. Which would actually make something more than 0% difference. If it's for something else fair enough, I'd just like to to be aware that if it is a gaming build, it's not the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    If you're spending more than €1500 on a pc you're wasting money.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    that depends entirely on what youll be using it for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Not really. Pretty much anything someone needs a lot of power for can be built for under €1500. Unless you need multi monitor setups with a lot of power there's no way you should be spending over €1500.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    incorrect, not when a decent monitor can set you back 500 quid right away. a decent premiere pro rig could easily cost you more than 1500 quid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    You can get a good 23" monitor for €145

    http://lb.hardwareversand.de/58+cm+%2823%29+/62093/LG+Flatron+IPS234V.article

    Unless you want to go for a 27" 1440p screen there's no way you will be spending €500.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    indough wrote: »
    incorrect, not when a decent monitor can set you back 500 quid right away. a decent premiere pro rig could easily cost you more than 1500 quid

    Decent is really quite a subjective term. A decent monitor for a lot of people probably cost just under 200 euro.

    Crossed with Bloodbath, had the reply page open for too long!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    you would want a 27 inch screen for video editing and it definitely in no way could be construed as a waste of money. thats before you even get into the need for a lot of ram, as much storage as you can fit, a fast nvidia card, better than decent sound, and as quiet as possible. so yeah, you would easily rack up 1500 quids worth, just not for a gaming build


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Blanket statements like that don't work. My PC is worth well over €1,500, and most of them are necessary and couldn't be sacrificed without affecting usability or performance.

    I stand by what I said though (which wasn't that it was a waste): If it is for gaming, it's badly optimized.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    If you have 2 grand to spend then don't go with that build. Ask the people here that have the experience and knowledge to build something much better for you. Christ, with that kind of budget you could included a nice IPS monitor. The usual recommended Germany site for buying all the components will build it for you don't want to do it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    You could have 3 of those monitors for less than a 27" 1440p screen unless you buy one of the korean ones on e-bay which are only only about €250-300 and are supposed to be good quality.

    Ram is cheap. 16gb would be more than enough for anything. The op hasn't stated what the build is for.

    Why an Nvidia card? Amd cards offer similar performance for far less cost.

    I reckon I could still throw a build together with 3 of those monitors for under €1500.
    My PC is worth well over €1,500, and most of them are necessary and couldn't be sacrificed without affecting usability or performance.

    You probably spent a few hundred on your water cooling though which is at least usable for all future builds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    BloodBath wrote: »
    You could have 3 of those monitors for less than a 27" 1440p screen unless you buy one of the korean ones on e-bay which are only only about €250-300 and are supposed to be good quality.

    Ram is cheap. 16gb would be more than enough for anything. The op hasn't stated what the build is for.

    Why an Nvidia card? Amd cards offer similar performance for far less cost.

    I reckon I could still throw a build together with 3 of those monitors for under €1500.

    ok then spec me this:

    3930k
    motherboard
    psu
    cpu cooler
    32gb ram
    fast ssd (at least 128gb and 6G)
    at least 4tb storage hdd
    either windows 7 or 8 64 bit
    nvidia card for cuda, at least 660ti
    either 3 smaller or one 27" dell ultrasharp

    for under 1500

    edit: arf, forgot to add a case as well, plus keyboard and mouse


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    indough wrote: »
    you would want a 27 inch screen for video editing and it definitely in no way could be construed as a waste of money. thats before you even get into the need for a lot of ram, as much storage as you can fit, a fast nvidia card, better than decent sound, and as quiet as possible. so yeah, you would easily rack up 1500 quids worth, just not for a gaming build

    Yes but here the OP is up to near 2g without any monitors at all, which was Bloodbaths point i think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    marco_polo wrote: »
    Yes but here the OP is up to near 2g without any monitors at all, which was Bloodbaths point i think.

    he said
    BloodBath wrote: »
    If you're spending more than €1500 on a pc you're wasting money.

    to which i said it depends entirely on what its for, then he started arguing that i was wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    BloodBath wrote: »
    You probably spent a few hundred on your water cooling though which is at least usable for all future builds.

    Yes, but I was also talking about everything else: Decent sound card, good speakers, monitor desk mount, mechanical keyboard, IPS monitor, etc. All of these things aren't strictly necessary, but they do definitely all into the realm of "could spend if required" and for me, an IPS monitor, desk mount, and sound card, are required in a decent machine. Snobbish attitude maybe, but that's just me: TN is crap, stock stands are crap, onboard sound is crap, and would completely detract from what I would call a high-end machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Yeah it's kinda gone out of context a bit. I was mainly referring to the op's build and most build's in general. Whether you need strong multi thread performance or gaming performance you really shouldn't be spending much more than €1500.

    You could definitely spend 2-3k with multi monitor/gpu/watercooling setups. You could spend 5k if you wanted :p

    Anyway threw a better build together for less. This is overclockable unlike the other one as well so you can get a lot more performance out of it.

    Item|Price
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX|€121.79
    Intel Core i7-3770K Box, LGA1155|€288.07
    16GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9|€85.18
    Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950, 3GB GDDR5, PCI-Express|€270.22
    Samsung SSD 840 250GB SATA 6Gb/s|€144.76
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€81.89
    be quiet! PURE POWER CM BQT L8-CM-730W|€90.66
    Samsung SH-224BB bare schwarz|€16.99
    LG Flatron IPS234V|€144.56
    Thermaltake Chaser MK-I, ohne Netzteil|€107.00
    BitFenix Spectre PRO 200mm Lüfter Blue LED - black|€18.85
    LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€14.64
    Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme|€74.99
    MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€81.61
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€1560.20

    Not sure if you need windows or not. I threw in 7 anyway. Change to 8 if you want. Not sure if you need a monitor. There was none in your original build but I threw one in in case you do. No keyboard or mouse either. You might need low profile ram with that cooler. You would have to check.

    If it's a rig just for gaming then this is overkill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Could you recommend a good sub €100 sound card? I've been meaning to get one for a while since my old x-fi died.

    -edit- Looking at them now I guess there are no good sub €100 sound cards. I'd have to spend at least €150 for something decent. I guess I'll have to put up with my ****ty onboard sound a bit longer :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Erm, there are lots of decent cards under €100 that are leagues ahead of onboard.

    Two that come to mind are the Xonar D2X, and the Auzentech Forte (more than €100, but pretty much only available second hand now, so should be ~100)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I don't see how they are better when there's virtually no hardware to them. Cheaper soundcards seem to be more about the software. I have THX TruStudio which lets me use creatives crystaliser at least. Adds some much needed depth to the onboard sound.

    How much would something with a dedicated sound processor cost?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Depends on the card, but €100 should easily get you something. I know my Forte has an X-Fi chip, so I get all the creative goodies without the screwy drivers. The D2X as far as I know uses a rebadged CMI8788 chip (C-Media).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    The system will have a Dual monitor setup
    It will also be used as a platform to run the Os and application software on 2 other low spec pcs in the house so that is going to use quite a lot of Ram.

    May play a few games of Pacman on it as well:pac:


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    The system will have a Dual monitor setup
    It will also be used as a platform to run the Os and application software on 2 other low spec pcs in the house so that is going to use quite a lot of Ram.

    May play a few games of Pacman on it as well:pac:
    16 would be plenty for that.

    Is there anything you're doing to justify a 7900 series card and an i7 processor?


Advertisement