Crysis 3

Johro

looking forward to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUBX0NLCZEE

btkm8unsl0w5r4

On the final mission (it unlocked in aisia at 6pm yesterday), its pretty good except that its very easy even on hardest level. Graphics are amazing, sound is good. My internet it too crap to play multiplayer.

andymurphy93

hate multiplayer
feels like halo with the sponges (i dont like halo thats probably why :P )
will wait until its cheaper just for singleplayer
huntermode is enjoyable but certain things in it need to be balanced
graphics i cant really comment on since its console but i suppose its good for console would much prefer it on pc though to give a better opinion

BizzyC

Def will be picking this up for PC.

My laptop should still be able to get decent graphics out of it, if they've got support for crossfire in this one.

Gummy Panda

Anyone know where I can buy a cheap key for this on pc?

Dravokivich

One of the lads in the bargain thread mentioned this as a place for checking prices:

http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/

Sephiroth_dude

Cooper Prickly Gymnasium wrote: »

On the final mission (it unlocked in aisia at 6pm yesterday), its pretty good except that its very easy even on hardest level. Graphics are amazing, sound is good. My internet it too crap to play multiplayer.

How many missions in the campaign?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

How many missions in the campaign?

OK so finished it on second from hardest difficulty (super soldier difficulty is just instagib for the enimies). 7 missions in total, 6 hours play time according to origin. Let me say I have played crysis 1, warhead and crysis 2 and enjoyed them all. I was really looking forward to this one.

Pros:
1. Graphics are stunning, I have a pretty good PC and maxed out on very high, its a real treat.
2. Music and sounds are good.
3. Front end and interface are good and all splash screens are skiable.
4. Weapons are good and feel meaty to use.
5. Bow is fun and plenty of ammo for it around the place.
6. Production, artwork and textures are top drawer, also not one crash, glitch, poor texture or collision problem during play.

Cons:
1. Poxy story with cheesy voice acting.
2. Short, short, short, especially compared to crysis 2 which was pretty long.
3. Boss battles are too easy and obvious.
4. AI is dumb.
5. Multiplayer is fun and lag free however everyone is too good at it, making it hard for me as a noob to have any fun. There is a level up system that limits good weapons and sights to those that put in the time and make it had for those of us who have not. Hunter is fun a few times, but cowering in a corner for two minutes grows old quickly.
6. Levels are large but mostly empty. You tend not to explore as there is no point and just march from way-point to waypoint. Heard it described as a baggy funnel which is spot on.
7. Balance is off, you are way too powerful. Cloak + bow makes it very easy to stealth around and the fact you can pick up spent arrows means there is not even ammo control.
8. Hack mechanic makes its too easy again.

It was fun and I enjoyed it, however after the hype I was expecting more. I always liked the nanosuit idea, but now you are never really in any danger so it take the tension out of it. Its stunning and really warms up your graphics cards. I hope some DLC comes along like warhead and opens up the world for PC users, this could be great with huge maps crammed with cell troopers and limited ammo. Hopefully the mod community will get to work.

Defo the benchmark for the future, not half as much fun as Farcry 3 (20 hours play for me and want to play it again) despite looking twice as good. Bring on Biochock infinity now.

muppetkiller

I played the Demo/Beta and thought Meh !
Is the game any better ?

Headshot

What is the A.I like this time?
Same as the second one?

Azza

Interesting Crytek where interviewd about Crysis 3 and during the interview they also talked about the A.I in Crysis 2.

Basically if you played the game long enough, then if you died once or twice and replayed the same section over, the enemy A.I basically stopped working. They said they addressed it in a patch quite quickly on PC but it took much longer on consoles.

In an interview before they said they where rightly critised for shipping with such a bug an apologised for it.

Played through the game twice and on both occasions I noticed the A.I getting stuck in scenery twice, but in different area's otherwise I thought the A.I was fine to fight against. I was playing on the hardest difficulty level.

The claimed the A.I was improved in Crysis 3. I have seen mixed reports on the A.I in various reviews so far.

desaparecidos

Probably a bit big to download, do Smyths or Tesco sell PC games anymore?

Azza

Tesco don't. Smyths did a while back but the selection was very small. Gamestop should be stocking this on PC though.

Azza

Had a quick look at this last night. Did the tutorial and part of the opening level.

Have to say it looks the bomb. Its got the the "wow" factor back unlike Crysis 2.

Running at Max settings with anti aliasing off at 1080p and the frame rate feels borderline playable. Probably will turn down 1 or 2 settings to a get frame rater consistently around 30fps.

Gameplay wise the opening level plays like Crysis 2, being fairly narrow. Nano suit feels more or less the same as 2. Same abilites etc. Guns outside of the bow are the same as 2, some of the canned enemy death animations are the same as 2 as well. I can understand where some reviewers are coming from they said the game feels like an expansion pack. Voice acting and story so far are fine.

Well play it through over the weekend. Report back when I'm done.

Hercule

first thing I needed to do was make an autoexec change the FOV and turn mouse accel off - game just felt awful for the first play - was enjoying the bow with a decent fov (didnt expect not to enjoy it!)

default field of view was 65 and thank god the PC version of the game allows adjustments

cl_fov 80
pl_movement.power_sprint_targetFov 80
r_drawnearfov 80

http://www.gamefront.com/crysis-3-pc-developer-console-commands/

Azza

FOV is one of those things that thankfully doesn't effect me. I suprised there isn't an in game option to change the fov though.

marco_polo

Has a look at this earlier, very impressive graphically, although just on the default high (not very high) settings with FXAA I was only seeing about 35-40 FPS with a HD 7850 indoors :eek:

The controls/guns etc all seem fantastic as well, TBH I'm not all that excited about the actual game itself (I haven't played much of it to judge it yet but am not expecting great things), but it is an engine I hope we will see alot more of over the coming years.

Azza

I personally think the core gameplay in the Crysis series is better than most other shooters on the market, at least when it comes to the single player campaign.

I take the gameplay over the Half Life series or Bioshock for instance.

quinnd6

I preordered Crysis 3 for xbox 360 in January from Gamestop and got it today.
They didn't send me any code to download Crysis 1 as advertised.
I emailed them and no reply, rang them and they won't pick up the phone.
I'm furious.
Gamestop are a disgrace.
I had the same kind of crap happen when I bought Rage before.
I got none of the download codes included and had to email them to get them.
Difference is they replied back then.
They won't reply now and it's impossible to get through to them.
It's the last time I preorder anything with them.

sink

Looks pretty, but takes a toll. I only just got to play it 40 mins ago after having to download a 1.6 GB update at 50 kbps (I have a pretty stable 8mb connection). My i5-2500k @ 4.6 GHz and 2X HD65950 OC'd & unlocked can't handle it above low setting @ 2560x1440. I had too turn the resolution down to 1080p with no AA in order to play it at High settings.

Azza

I have an I5 3570K at stock speed (3.4Hhz)
Gerforce GTX 680
8GB PC3-10700 (800Mhz)

Running everything at very high on 1080p. 1x SMAA Anti Aliasing, V-Sync off.

Averaging between 35-40fps, but there are dips to the mid 20's on occasions.

Normally I dislike turning v-sync off but screen tear isn't really noticeable at all, so its worth it for the 4-5 extra frames it gives me on average.

briany

Azza wrote: »

I personally think the core gameplay in the Crysis series is better than most other shooters on the market, at least when it comes to the single player campaign.

I take the gameplay over the Half Life series or Bioshock for instance.

Bioshock maybe but I have to disagree on HL. Half Life 2 is a masterpiece of a first person shooter. HL2, STALKER and Far Cry 1 complete the holy trinity of PC shooters from the last decade, in my opinion.

Crysis appears to be getting more populist by the installment, making it more linear and less about outwitting your foes. Eventually it'll just be COD with a future suit. Still looks like an entertaining game and all, just sad to see the elements that made the first one so engaging be reduced.

Same thing happened to my beloved Splinter Cell. It got popular and populized thereafter.

Azza

briany wrote:

Bioshock maybe but I have to disagree on HL. Half Life 2 is a masterpiece of a first person shooter. HL2, STALKER and Far Cry 1 complete the holy trinity of PC shooters from the last decade, in my opinion.

Loved those 3 games myself but I going to disagree with you. Not disputing that HL 2 is a masterpiece. Its settings and the story the setting alone tells is excellent and which hooks you in, leaving you wanting to know more, characters that are well ahead of the video game average. It being well paced. For its time it had excellent physics and graphics and the facial animation was amazing.

But the gameplay, the fps mechanics are inferior to Crysis's fps mechanics. Its not terrible by any means but look at what you do during it. Progress down narrow corridors (Half Life 2 never gets people criticized for being linear), enemies appear, you kill them and you kill them before you move on from more or less the spot you first saw them from. There is very little flanking or approaching from other angles.

The Combines troops and the zombies aren't particularly interesting enemy to fight, their A.I being unremarkable, it doesn't bug out or do anything particularly wrong either, but nothing much is being asked of it. It doesn't really have to react from the player approaching from multipal angles or have to navigate complex and cluttered environments. Some enemies are better like the fast zombie and the Striders, but overall I prefer fighting enemies in Crysis, the game offers more tactical freedom due to the larger environments, wider abundance of cover, the nano suit abilities and imo better weapons.

briany wrote:

Crysis appears to be getting more populist by the installment, making it more linear and less about outwitting your foes. Eventually it'll just be COD with a future suit. Still looks like an entertaining game and all, just sad to see the elements that made the first one so engaging be reduced.

To me this seems like the populist thing to say. Crysis 2 for sure lost a considerable amount of the tactical freedom with the smaller maps, which was almost certainly to do with the hardware restraints of current gen consoles. Yes it had quite a lot of corridors sections but there was several combat engagements that occurred in open environments. I'd consider it quite close to Far Cry 1 in terms of openness and considerable more open than the COD or Half Life games.

Crysis 3 reverted the trend of making the game more linear, and went for a half way house between 1 and 2, which by itself refutes your statement. As does the fact the Alien A.I. in Crysis 2 was improved over Crysis 1 by a considerable margin.

Can't comment on Splinter Cell, haven't played any of them much at all.

briany

Azza wrote: »

But the gameplay, the fps mechanics are inferior to Crysis's fps mechanics. Its not terrible by any means but look at what you do during it. Progress down narrow corridors (Half Life 2 never gets people criticized for being linear), enemies appear, you kill them and you kill them before you move on from more or less the spot you first saw them from. There is very little flanking or approaching from other angles.

The Combines troops and the zombies aren't particularly interesting enemy to fight, their A.I being unremarkable, it doesn't bug out or do anything particularly wrong either, but nothing much is being asked of it. It doesn't really have to react from the player approaching from multipal angles or have to navigate complex and cluttered environments. Some enemies are better like the fast zombie and the Striders, but overall I prefer fighting enemies in Crysis, the game offers more tactical freedom due to the larger environments, wider abundance of cover, the nano suit abilities and imo better weapons.

I agree on the tactical freedom of Crysis. It was a great thing. I can't say that I ever noticed the Crysis AI to be particularly formidable at any point though. The core fighting of Crysis is better but the reason why I like HL2 that bit more is because it's just a more varied game in my opinion. Combine soldiers, Striders, Gunships, Manhacks, Zombies, Headcrabs and Antlions all require a change up in approach to your fighting. You're constantly feeling a sense of progression as your environment changes from city to canal to highway to prison and there's rudimentary puzzle solving thrown in there as well. I just enjoy the tone of the whole game a little bit more I suppose. As great as Crysis is, it's a preferential thing.

To me this seems like the populist thing to say. Crysis 2 for sure lost a considerable amount of the tactical freedom with the smaller maps, which was almost certainly to do with the hardware restraints of current gen consoles. Yes it had quite a lot of corridors sections but there was several combat engagements that occurred in open environments. I'd consider it quite close to Far Cry 1 in terms of openness and considerable more open than the COD or Half Life games.

This is as much of worry as anything else seeing the way Crysis 2 went. That game was a lot of fun but a sidestep more than a progression for the series IMO. Far Cry was a fantastically open game in it's first half, much more similar to Crysis. I think comparisons between Far Cry and Crysis 2 become stronger in Far Cry's latter half where the game gets a little more closed in.

I suppose I'm hoping that by saying out loud that Crysis will become like COD, maybe it won't happen then . Maybe it's possible that with the next gen, the series will be allowed to open up again. Two games set in the same city is quite enough.

ktulu123

Just picked it up there. Hopefully the single player is decent, will need a bit of practice before I can play the multiplayer. Arma has made my reaction speed too slow ha

Azza

Well finished the single player. Its the shortest of the 3 games and abit on the easy side. But overall its quite a good game.

Gameplay is more open than 2, but there is still a few corridor sections. Weapons are good, even if a lot of them already appeared in 2. There is more customization to go with them. The suit upgrade system of finding upgrades is better than the method of collecting the nano catalyst from dead enemies in 2, as it doesn't force you into dangerous. The base suit is similar to 2 but there is a few more upgrades as well. Running doesn't drain meter unless your using armor or cloak mode.

A.I is fine. Doesn't bug out like in 2. Although I did notice 1 or 2 path finding issues, it was fine for the most part. Think the enemies need to be able to kill you slightly quicker. Its not terrible easy, but the game could do with a patch that ups the difficulty a little.

Graphically its probably not quite as impressive as Crysis 1 was at the time but its very good visually. Ran well, with no crashes. Did get microstutter on one level that a restart cured but I'm not sure weather its the game or just an issue with my machine. Seen the same issue in other games. Far less graphically bugs than 2 as well. A few very minor graphics blemishes but overall its a great looking game.

Audio is good too.

I seen the story getting slated in a few reviews. I thought it was alright. Nothing amazing or memorable but its hardly terrible. Did answer 1 or 2 question left over from the first 2 games. Voice acting is fine. Dialogue is okay, with one or two cheesy lines getting in there.

Overall I rate it as a improvement over 2.

ktulu123

Anyone having issues launching the game? I click play in Origin & it looks to be launching then nothing happens. PC is a beast so its not that. Have sent a tweet to both origin & crysis. Hopefully they get back to me, haven't seen anything online about it

Azza

Sorry no idea what it could be. Have you the latest graphics drivers for your GPU?

Anything running the background?

KilOit

Just completed it there. Great game imo, didn't overstay it's welcome and was able to complete it over the weekend.
Much better than Crysis 2 but still enjoyed Crysis 1 more. Stunning graphics, had to go medium-high settings with HD5850 gpu 2500k cpu. Pity next gen consoles won't even be able to run it on very high!

Azza

KilOit wrote:

Just completed it there. Great game imo, didn't overstay it's welcome and was able to complete it over the weekend.
Much better than Crysis 2 but still enjoyed Crysis 1 more. Stunning graphics, had to go medium-high settings with HD5850 gpu 2500k cpu. Pity next gen consoles won't even be able to run it on very high!

Agree with what you say. I still thought Crysis 2 was a decent game though.

I'd say the PS4 could get close to running it at max.

Been playing multiplayer for a few hours. Its pretty decent but I doubt it will be a big hit online.

ktulu123

Azza wrote: »

Sorry no idea what it could be. Have you the latest graphics drivers for your GPU?

Anything running the background?

Yeah latest drivers installed. Have tried killing all other programs. Was on to Origin support which took 2 hours to connect to, once I got talking to someone the chat session ended.

What I have done however is download a cracked .exe & the game runs fine. DRM like this is ridiculous. Hopefully there will be a fix for origin when I want to play multiplayer

Azza

You can probably play online fine with the cracked exe, as long as the code is legit there is usually no problem.

Once they patch the game you probably won't be able to. Hopefully a patch fixes your issue.

Have you tried Origin in offline mode. You might be able to play single player that way.

desaparecidos

It doesn't seem to handle dips in FSP that well. It's like the internal speed of the game drops with FPS. It feels like you are lunging forward when your FPS increase.

Also no AA setting seems to really work properly, but does hit performance. At what point did we get all of these AA methods (SMAA, TXAA, FXAA, MSAA) but they never really fecking work like the good old days (AAx2, AAx4, AAx8).

Duggy747

Did you try turning Vsync off? I was getting the same FPS slowdown and speedups entering rooms until I disabled it.

marco_polo

Duggy747 wrote: »

Did you try turning Vsync off? I was getting the same FPS slowdown and speedups entering rooms until I disabled it.

Anybody who is getting less that 60FPS should have VSync off. The reason being is that @60Hz your GPU has a 16.6 ms window in which to produce a frame.

Say it barely misses its window taking 17ms to produce a frame, after 16.6ms the monitor will refresh showing the old frame again, and the new frame which actually was completed after 17ms will not get displayed until the next refresh window a full 33.3ms after it was started.

This is what causes the wildly inconsistent framerate with Vsync on, and why it locks on seemingly strange fps numbers like 30/45.

Azza

V-Sync does incure a performance hit but its consistent and doesn't fluctuate.
Frames rates of 30/45 are not stranger than any other number, its all dependent on your hardware.

What v-sync does is cause input lag. Which depending on the game can be quite noticeable.

marco_polo

Azza wrote: »

V-Sync does incure a performance hit but its consistent and doesn't fluctuate.
Frames rates of 30/45 are not stranger than any other number, its all dependent on your hardware.

What v-sync does is cause input lag. Which depending on the game can be quite noticeable.

I agree about the input lag, I could have phrased it better but what I was talking about is the flips between those fixed 60/45/30 numbers which can occur as you are playing depending on what is happening onscreen.

With Vsync and tripple buffering you typically get 60FPS if the GPU can actually render > 60 frames, 45FPS if the GPU can physically render > 45-59 frames, and 30FPS if the GPU can physically render > 30-44 frames. So as the GPU load goes up and down it can and does lock on different framerates.

Azza

Gotcha.

marco_polo

It was almost making me ill on Friday night until I turned it off (and increased the FOV) as I was right in that 40-50 fps zone

Azza

Yeah I was getting close to 60 frame most of the time. Only at the start in the rainey area outside the dome did the frame rate struggle. There was a few dips but nothing as severe as the opening level.

klose

Never played crysis 1 or 2 but picked this up today, excellent game! Hooked already

Gbear

The closeups of Psycho's face like when you're

in the big field with the giant rocket tower in the 2nd level

look so ****ing glorious.

I was making silly excited squeeing noises at times.

I think the game might have benefited from one or two little parts where you could really just sit back and take it all in.

Like in 1 when you crawl out of the alien base and there's this magical breathtaking wonderland awaiting you.

Gbear

Jesus christ. Is it just my internet or is the downloading of updates slow as balls?

I'm getting 50k.

It's taking an hour for a 200mb file.

Slightly annoying having this on top of the 1.2GB file I had to get as soon as I installed it. Wouldn't mind if the speed wasn't as pitiful.

Duggy747

It's a lot shorter than the others but I found the combat to be a lot more satisfying than Crysis 2, even if you are way overpowered.

Once you get that bow everyone is fùcked...........but you do feel like a version of Predator & Rambo mixed together, though

Vehicles are useless and might as well not exist, you have the opportunity to drive a buggy twice and the second time is undriveable because of all of the debris on the ground.

Graphically, it's better than Crysis 2 and does have some great moments. They got to show off what this engine is capable of with some great looking textures and animations.

I thought the bit where you were in the orange generator room looked fantastic, reminded me of Alien 3 for some reason :pac:

I enjoyed it and got the horrible taste of Aliens: Colonial Marines out of my mouth.

omerin

the 3 games I have been looking forward to seem all to disappoint - aliens - too many flaws, dead space 3 not as good as what has gone before and now a very short single player campaign and a so so multiplayer. Dam I wanted so much to give my money to these people
Is there any hope that patches and/or some free dlc will sort these 3 games out?

Gbear

omerin wrote: »

the 3 games I have been looking forward to seem all to disappoint - aliens - too many flaws, dead space 3 not as good as what has gone before and now a very short single player campaign and a so so multiplayer. Dam I wanted so much to give my money to these people
Is there any hope that patches and/or some free dlc will sort these 3 games out?

It's not worth the €50 sort of price range but if you have a rummage around you might find a decent bargain.

I pre-ordered the Hunter Edition for about €30 from Amazon. In that context, although I haven't finished it, it's fairly good value.

Cillo rs200

The graphics are phenomenal! Other than that, I have to say i was fairly disappointed with it overall. The change back to more open spaces seems wasted as they are mostly empty. I know many people gave out about the set pieces in the second game but their exclusion in this edition made kind of boring in my opinion. It just seems that a lot less happened overall in this one when compared to the others.

And the story was terrible. I'm not going to spoil it, but seriously, the story is hammy even by fps standards!

Azza

Cavet Yerli was interview about the relatively poor critical performance of Crysis 3.

He said it was to be expected.

A combination of franchise fatigue and peoples expectations not being meet because developers are unable to deliver new gaming concepts because of current hardware limitations. He says that may change with the new consoles.

He also pointed out the PC version was limited because of console limitations, but developing PC exclusive titles is simply not viable.

He also said Crysis 3 budget is 3 times that of the orginal. Which puts it around the €45 million mark.

I noticed a few reviews saying it was actually a better game than 2 yet marked it lower than they marked Crysis 2.

Gbear

Azza wrote: »

Cavet Yerli was interview about the relatively poor critical performance of Crysis 3.

He said it was to be expected.

A combination of franchise fatigue and peoples expectations not being meet because developers are unable to deliver new gaming concepts because of current hardware limitations. He says that may change with the new consoles.

He also pointed out the PC version was limited because of console limitations, but developing PC exclusive titles is simply not viable.

He also said Crysis 3 budget is 3 times that of the orginal. Which puts it around the €45 million mark.

I noticed a few reviews saying it was actually a better game than 2 yet marked it lower than they marked Crysis 2.

It really is rather good.

Stuck at the end now - quite difficult. Far more so than the rest of the game.

Azza

You been using the Red Ceph Generators, if you press F on them you can use them up and make yourself invincible for a while.

Gbear

Azza wrote: »

You been using the Red Ceph Generators, if you press F on them you can use them up and make yourself invincible for a while.

I go up to them and nothing happens. It doens't give me the option to use them. It hasn't at any part in the game.

The only way I can get supercharged is from the "Mind Carriers".