Another act of a government gone mad

Le_Dieux

I can't find this thread anywhere else, but in case someone has posted it, Mods, feel free to do whatever:

Are these people for real in DE?:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revenue-to-use-aerial-photos-for-house-tax-29077047.html

Fr_Dougal

tl;dr

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Makes sense.

Kylo Ren

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

tl;dr

tl;dr

Chucky the tree

What's so mad about it? Seems a fairly obvious thing to do.

Fannyhead

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

tl;dr

Keno 92 wrote: »

tl;dr

tl;dr

Humans eh!

Le_Dieux wrote: »

I can't find this thread anywhere else, but in case someone has posted it, Mods, feel free to do whatever:

Are these people for real in DE?:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revenue-to-use-aerial-photos-for-house-tax-29077047.html

A bit of context would be the way to go.
Not everyone will go chasing links, we have probably read anyway checking the news today
Wht do you think?
Do you sunbathe naked? And fear a schlong tax?
Posting links should support your idea, not be the idea.

Where To

Praetorian Saighdiuir wrote: »

Makes sense.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

What's so mad about it? Seems a fairly obvious thing to do.

Makes sense to me too, we must be mad in the head.

donvito99

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

tl;dr

Keno 92 wrote: »

tl;dr

Fannyhead wrote: »

tl;dr

Reported.

HondaSami

Le_Dieux wrote: »

I can't find this thread anywhere else, but in case someone has posted it, Mods, feel free to do whatever:

Are these people for real in DE?:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revenue-to-use-aerial-photos-for-house-tax-29077047.html

Aerial maps and GPS-style systems will measure "the distance from each property to a series of amenities and services".

These will include train and Luas lines, airports, health services, schools, shops and emergency services such as garda stations.

Seems fair to me, if you have better access to these amenities then you should pay more than people who have to travel to them.

mikom

Le_Dieux wrote: »

I can't find this thread anywhere else, but in case someone has posted it, Mods, feel free to do whatever:

Are these people for real in DE?:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revenue-to-use-aerial-photos-for-house-tax-29077047.html

I hope they are able to pick out the potholes from that high up.

MrStuffins

Seems like the Govt. are using their noodle for once!

Although, didn't they just have a census?

P_1

Makes sense tbh, seems a fair way of assessing one of the variables when it comes to valuing a house.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Where To wrote: »

Makes sense to me too, we must be mad in the head.

This also makes sense! :pac:

Best username ever

mikom wrote: »

I hope they are able to pick out the potholes from that high up.

No chance they'll be photoshopped out.

Sh1tbag OToole

Fcuking property tax again

Jazzmaster

The pissy mattress and burnt out car in my driveway should help with my valuation

Death and Taxes

Seems fair enough, cant see what your issue is OP

Sh1tbag OToole

Probably just Phil Hogan's threat of the week at work. Ever since he decided to bring in this tax he has been threatening the people of Ireland and coaxing them into paying up.

ManMade

mikom wrote: »

I hope they are able to pick out the potholes from that high up.

I wish they did!
Will the prosperity tax be ring fenced to local services (like potholes and road linings) or will it be used for everything but?

Fr_Dougal

Charlie Bird wrote: »

Reported.

Thank you, Charlie.

NinjaTruncs

So it's Dublin^2 tax, if you live in dublin you get hit for higher property prices and hit again because you live closer to facilities. why not go the whole hog and just call it the Dublin tax.

Imo it should be 50% on value and 50% on size.

Jazzmaster

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

So it's Dublin^2 tax, if you live in dublin you get hit for higher property prices and hit again because you live closer to facilities. why not go the whole hog and just call it the Dublin tax.

Imo it should be 50% on value and 50% on size.

Get over yer howya persecution complex :-)

Gummy Panda

Quick question how do they know you own the home?

sfwcork

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

So it's Dublin^2 tax, if you live in dublin you get hit for higher property prices and hit again because you live closer to facilities. why not go the whole hog and just call it the Dublin tax.

Imo it should be 50% on value and 50% on size.

Im going to piss on your parade for a sec

Are you aware that there is facilities outside of dublin?

Sh1tbag OToole

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

So it's Dublin^2 tax, if you live in dublin you get hit for higher property prices and hit again because you live closer to facilities. why not go the whole hog and just call it the Dublin tax.

Imo it should be 50% on value and 50% on size.

They should scrap the bloody thing altogether

It has nothing to do with local services as councils owning council houses have to pay it to the central government. They have to say it's for local services to entice people into paying but then what is all the other tax for? Funding the Dail itself?

HondaSami

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

So it's Dublin^2 tax, if you live in dublin you get hit for higher property prices and hit again because you live closer to facilities. why not go the whole hog and just call it the Dublin tax.

Imo it should be 50% on value and 50% on size.

Dublin has better amenities than other parts of the country so it's fair they should pay more imo

Rightwing

Just goes to show whatever the Government do now, they are finished.

How did the country ever arrive at this sorry state?

Pilotdude5

What if shops amenities etc that are located close to your home are considered "good" but you hate them?

Do you still have to pay a higher tax rate?

P_1

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Quick question how do they know you own the home?

I'd say they have built up a substantial register now based on who's signed up for the €100 charge. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go to the banks to find out who has mortgages and all that.

HondaSami

Pilotdude5 wrote: »

What if shops amenities etc that are located close to your home are considered "good" but you hate them?

Do you still have to pay a higher tax rate?

If everyone hated them they would be gone out of business.

Ciaran_B

Cover your house with a big net or tarp. Then they won't be able to see it from the sky. Property tax = 0.

Duckworth_Luas

Ciaran_B wrote: »

Cover your house with a big net or tarp. Then they won't be able to see it from the sky. Property tax = 0.

Except the aerial photography has already been used to create a database of existing commercial and residential properties.

Also, the census data was used to create the deprivation index mentioned in the OPs link.

The Independent keeps using the word "sophisticated", yet it's really fairly simple geographical analysis been used. In fact many government decisions are based on such techniques.

Non story!

P_1

A slight worry is that the Property Tax is supposed to pay for amenities that are paid for out of the government purse, why should proximity to amenities that are paid for from private funds come into it?

monkeypants

HondaSami wrote: »

Dublin has better amenities than other parts of the country so it's fair they should pay more imo

Define "better" please.

Mr Benevolent

Define "better" please.

Some.

donvito99 wrote: »

Reported.

Ah bless the naivety of the child.

tayto lover

Fcuk me. I live near the Dole Office. I'll be crucified.

donvito99

Confab wrote: »

Some.



Ah bless the naivety of the child.

Reported for irony's sake

Manach

If the government has perfect and all information about you, it now doubt will use it to perfectly serve you :rolleyes: