The Evod

sept09baby

I really, really want to love this but am just not feeling it.
Although I tend not to like my vape too warm, the evod is just far too cool for me. I like the T3 (not as much as the T2) so thought I'd like the evod too cos they're both bottom coils. The Evod mouthpiece is lovely (and I got pink so it's very pretty!).

Don't want to give up on it so would changing the resistence of the coils help do you think? Standard comes with 2.5 omhs but you can get them from 1.7ohms up to 3.0 ohms.

grindle

You'll probably vape at the wattage that you prefer whatever the ohms of the atty.
The only way to get more heat is for the coil to get closer to your mouth, or for you to rebuild with twisted wire (you can push the voltage much higher without burning).
Lowering the resistance will just speed the time it takes the coil to get warm enough to vape at if you have a VV/VW device.

csi vegas

sept09baby wrote: »

The Evod mouthpiece is lovely (and I got pink so it's very pretty!)

Where did you buy?

sept09baby

Got it at the vapemeet from the folks at e-smokeireland

mrplop

I bought some high resistance Evod heads from E-Smokeireland on Thursday - the first one is reading 3.3ohms on my Provari but I'm fairly sure this is an anomalously high coil, the rest will probably be closer to 3.0ohms
At the same time it's fairly warm at 4.8 volts and no burning.

I also rebuilt an Evod head a short while ago, it was very easy indeed.
You could make some pretty high resistance heads using .15 Kanthal...

GobblyNob

My Evod arrived this morning. Threw a 2.2 coil onto it as 2.5 is a bit too high for my regular ego battery.

Anyway, the evod is pretty cool, I like the design of it. The mouthpiece rests perfectly in my gob. I haven't noticed the "cold vape" people seem to be complaining about even though I've been using top-coil clearomizers til now. I would call it "a grand aul vape".

Bit of a plasticy taste at first, on the 2nd tank now and it's fine. I guess if I order another one (actually I definitely will order another one) I'll give it a quick rinse before using it. Also, the coil was loose when I bought it so make sure everything is screwed tight before you pour the juice in if you're thinking of buying one.

Also, it looks cool.

Anyway, great fecking value for only 5.50e

Thecageyone

I got 4 of them, all work well. But one did have a cheimical type taste so I washed it out right away.

The others, working grand, nice flavour, good vapour, BUT ... that mouthpiece is terrible. The shape is grand, but transparent? Have another look at it after 2 days and tell me it's lovely! The condensation/moisture it shows up, looks awful. Other than that I like them. Got blue, black, red and silver. The red looks cool.

Real pity they didn't use solid colour mouthpieces or I'd buy more.

GobblyNob

I think the clear mouthpiece is cool! What's wrong with a few drops of condensation? It's like a cool effect.

StickyIcky

GobblyNob wrote: »

I think the clear mouthpiece is cool! What's wrong with a few drops of condensation? It's like a cool effect.

I don't have an issue with it. I find its comfortable, nice shape and size etc.

StickyIcky

Thecageyone wrote: »

I got 4 of them, all work well. But one did have a cheimical type taste so I washed it out right away.

The others, working grand, nice flavour, good vapour, BUT ... that mouthpiece is terrible. The shape is grand, but transparent? Have another look at it after 2 days and tell me it's lovely! The condensation/moisture it shows up, looks awful. Other than that I like them. Got blue, black, red and silver. The red looks cool.

Real pity they didn't use solid colour mouthpieces or I'd buy more.

Try sucking for half a second longer after you let go of the button to clear the mouth piece of any left over vapour. Hopefully that makes a difference. I don't really notice it and if I do it doesn't bother me. I dunno. I see how you could find it not as clean looking as an opaque tip.

StickyIcky

sept09baby wrote: »

I really, really want to love this but am just not feeling it.
Although I tend not to like my vape too warm, the evod is just far too cool for me. I like the T3 (not as much as the T2) so thought I'd like the evod too cos they're both bottom coils. The Evod mouthpiece is lovely (and I got pink so it's very pretty!).

Don't want to give up on it so would changing the resistence of the coils help do you think? Standard comes with 2.5 omhs but you can get them from 1.7ohms up to 3.0 ohms.

What grindle and plop said sounds interesting. Might try that myself. I would like it to be a bit warmer too. Let me know if you manage to get on with it. I think they look great. You know there's a matching battery for it? Kanger evod battery exact same pink colour as the evod clearo , matches it perfectly. Size wise and the way it connects, I'd love to get one as looks much better than on my ego battery.

Rattleshakes

OMG pink?! sounds totally awesome!! I mean...:eek:...whatever,just drop it already jeez:(

csi vegas

StickyIcky wrote: »

I think they look great. You know there's a matching battery for it? Kanger evod battery exact same pink colour as the evod clearo , matches it perfectly. Size wise and the way it connects, I'd love to get one as looks much better than on my ego battery.

I now have two and they look so much nicer than the T3's. They are shorter in length and are a little bit slimmer too. They pair up very nicely on the eGo Twist, it all looks very sleek and BIG BONUS it's minus that huge black 'chimney cowl' which sits atop the T3 and MT3, which is sooo conspicuous

Comparison:



I didn't know there was an eVod battery...

...Didn't know you were a girl either Sticky! Unless you're not and you just like pink
... which is perfectly fine ...

grindle

csi vegas wrote: »

...Didn't know you were a girl either Sticky! Unless you're not and you just like pink
... which is perfectly fine ...

He was just pointing out the pink battery to sept09baby.
Girls->pink->who knew, amirite?

He's more a shine-get fan I think. Keeps oohing and aahing all over the 'week's wages' mods.

Here you go Sticky, your daily dose:



Holy Fùck thassabigpicksher. Sorry Digby... :'-(

csi vegas

From the C9V Forum:
http://www.c9v-forum.com/rebuildables-genesis-talk/evod-bcc-rebuildable/

Credit to User Skp574I
"rewicked my eVods last night using Ekowool. I used 1.5/2mm wick doubled over and 5 wraps of 0.25 kanthal giving a 1.5 ohm coil. I didn't put any loose wick on top of the coil like in the stock heads. This thing is now vaping like a smoke machine. I've had to drop my nic strength down to 12mg as well. I had to work the wick in a bit but this morning it is bang on.

I got it on a GUS G16 mod at the moment. It is really trying to be a Kayfun mini. Flavour is outstanding (using El Toro Cigarrillos). I can't get over the amount of vapour I'm getting from it, nor can the other half who keeps wafting it out the way"
Here's my setup:







Ekowool. Must get me some of that.

csi vegas

grindle wrote: »

He was just pointing out the pink battery to sept09baby.
Girls->pink->who knew, amirite?

Ooooooops...

Rattleshakes

colly10

grindle wrote: »

He was just pointing out the pink battery to sept09baby.
Girls->pink->who knew, amirite?

He's more a shine-get fan I think. Keeps oohing and aahing all over the 'week's wages' mods.

Here you go Sticky, your daily dose:



Holy Fùck thassabigpicksher. Sorry Digby... :'-(

What's that, havn't seen one before?

grindle

colly10 wrote: »

What's that, havn't seen one before?

That's a Caravela with a Senesis by Senio on top.

Total cost for both if you got onto the Caravela's list (which you can't do any more, all 999 spots filled) would be about €220-€240 (that's without any of the going extras for either mod) , but realistically that combo has a trade/cash value closer to €350-€400.

Some Americans have paid over €450 for the Caravela alone. Oddballs.

Thecageyone

That looks sweet, but not anything near €300+ sweet.

On the evods, well, I'm still using them despite not liking the clear mouth piece. that's just a personal thing, some may not mind or even like it, I would rather it solid colour.

I also got a new Kanger MT3 with some extra coil heads and an ego twist battery, finally. That combination is pleasing me right now. Using the evods for side flavours.

StickyIcky

csi vegas wrote: »

...Didn't know you were a girl either Sticky! Unless you're not and you just like pink
... which is perfectly fine ...

No comment :P

StickyIcky

grindle wrote: »

He was just pointing out the pink battery to sept09baby.
Girls->pink->who knew, amirite?

yupurite

grindle wrote: »

He's more a shine-get fan I think. Keeps oohing and aahing all over the 'week's wages' mods.

Here you go Sticky, your daily dose:

*insert homer simpson drool*

csi vegas wrote: »

Ekowool. Must get me some of that.

CSI I'm going to order something from here soon
http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/Ekowool
If you want to go halves in some Ekowool and the shipping I might be tempted

What do you reckon Grindle? Could Ekowool be any better than better than silica wick from TheBestShop etc?

They use in on spaceships so surely it must be good enough for my vapouriser http://www.ekowool.com/why-ekowool

Rattleshakes

Thecageyone wrote: »

That looks sweet, but not anything near €300+ sweet.

On the evods, well, I'm still using them despite not liking the clear mouth piece. that's just a personal thing, some may not mind or even like it, I would rather it solid colour.

I also got a new Kanger MT3 with some extra coil heads and an ego twist battery, finally. That combination is pleasing me right now. Using the evods for side flavours.

Would you say the evod is better than the MT3?

EGriff

So are these better than the T2s or T3s? I'm going to order this starter kit http://www.e-smokeireland.eu/product-p/kangtwist.htm

I think the T3s look better but that's not a big deal. Also I have seen mini batteries (400mAh) available for this kit, I like the idea of making the thing a bit shorter.

Thecageyone

RATTLESHAKES wrote: »

Would you say the evod is better than the MT3?

No, I prefer the MT3, it's jut working better for me. I got 4x evods and all of them are giving me grief. They work fine one minute, then start randomly gurgling the next really annoying. I'll be ordering more MT3 units, as I have some spare coils to suit. They just seem more solid, and they are about the same price.

I have found with both that if you stand the whole unit, attached, upright, you get less gurgling. Which tells me there's a kink in the armour someplace. Juice is creeping in over time, somehow, around where the coil head fastens inside.

mrplop

grindle wrote: »

That's a Caravela with a Senesis by Senio on top.

Total cost for both if you got onto the Caravela's list (which you can't do any more, all 999 spots filled) would be about €220-€240 (that's without any of the going extras for either mod) , but realistically that combo has a trade/cash value closer to €350-€400.

Some Americans have paid over €450 for the Caravela alone. Oddballs.

Not really the prettiest device in my opinion, it's not going to do anything spectacularly better than any other similar device.

A lot of the ECF boys buy these for the resale value and bragging rights.

grindle

StickyIcky wrote: »

What do you reckon Grindle? Could Ekowool be any better than better than silica wick from TheBestShop etc?

Everything I've read about it has basically said that it tastes like good silica but wicks like cotton, so unless you've got wicking problems in your set-up it's a waste of cash. Probably a nice upgrade for a Vivi or other clearos, but if you're upgrading I'd just leap up to SS, but I may be biased towards SS.

mrplop wrote: »

Not really the prettiest device in my opinion, it's not going to do anything spectacularly better than any other similar device.

A lot of the ECF boys buy these for the resale value and bragging rights.

Yeah, I think it looks manky, the same way I thnk Rolexes look gaudy as Fùck. It serves as a reminder that most vapers seem to be older. Shiny=good.
The manufacturer has tried to stem the flow of it, but tons of people have bought them to trade for multiples of other sought-after devices.

The all-brass contacts do guarantee a certain level of quality to the vape, but nothing that can't be gained by visiting a hardware shop and replacing SS screws/nuts/bolts with brass versions in whichever cheap mod you might have.
After that, the price comes from exclusivity, much like early Burial or DMZ vinyl-buyers selling original copies for over €100. Someone wants it, why not sell?

richardw001

Thecageyone wrote: »

No, I prefer the MT3, it's jut working better for me. I got 4x evods and all of them are giving me grief. They work fine one minute, then start randomly gurgling the next really annoying. I'll be ordering more MT3 units, as I have some spare coils to suit. They just seem more solid, and they are about the same price.

I have found with both that if you stand the whole unit, attached, upright, you get less gurgling. Which tells me there's a kink in the armour someplace. Juice is creeping in over time, somehow, around where the coil head fastens inside.

Thought I read somewhere you can use the T3/MT3 heads on an evod as well ?
Might be worth trying if its the head thats causing you problems.

Thecageyone

richardw001 wrote: »

Thought I read somewhere you can use the T3/MT3 heads on an evod as well ?
Might be worth trying if its the head thats causing you problems.

Just tried, and you are correct the evod head set certainly seems to fit snuggly enough on the MT3. Cheers for that, never would have thought of trying, they look so different. Will pull out a new MT3 coil and stick it into a fresh evod now and give it a go through the day.

GobblyNob

I'm still happily vapping away on my evod, no problems except for one bit of gurgling. Just make sure the coil is screwed in tight as ****, as it may come loose when you open it up to refill it. I'm not sure if that's why mine is fixed, or if I'm the luckiest person in the world to get the only functioning evod, but just try the tightening thing anyway.

Thecageyone

4 evods here, all gurgled at some point. Though you may be right about the tightening.

I've mentioned it elsewhere, but got my Vamo today, with a vivi nova ... and I've been messing with the thing all day, switching volts and watts and whatever, and not one dry hit, no gurgling or miss fire, no leaking, no horrible taste ... good stuffs.

StickyIcky

Vamo + Vivi is one of my favourite go to setups too. I've the black evod on a black evic at the moment and with a couple of modifications I made to it, it's giving decent performance and no gurgling yet, touch wood.

Rattleshakes

Guess who else uses an Evod?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDIuw_bTMc

GobblyNob

That video is an hour long ... can you tell me which part they talk about the evod?

GobblyNob

Another evod arrived yesterday, working great - not a single gurgle. Yiz must be doing something wrong.

StickyIcky

Wait till it gets really low, leave it sitting for a day. I only own one evod and it gurgled a lot when it was low until I fixed it.

Could be quality control issues. Ones from certain batches maybe like that. They are assembled by hand and the coils I think are made by hand too.

Where are you buying yours from?

richardw001

A question that is bugging me ... based on the us prices and the fact that only part of the evod bottom coil needs to be replaced (and looking at it relative to the price of the T2/T3 where all the bottom bit needs changing) - how come the replacement coils aren't 30-40% cheaper than the T2/T3 heads in ireland and the uk.

Not giving out about any one seller here - as they all seem to be priced at around the same from what I can see
Is it because its still new here that we aren't seeing the same savings as with the us shops ?
For example on US shop has them at 1.50 US which is about 1.20 euro.

grindle

US vendors have WAAAAAAY more customers than our guys. Buying in bulk=cheap in a big way. Some of the UK shops should be able to lower the prices a bit (Liberty Flights, ecigwizard) but why go lower if nobody else has?
This might be the kind of item that allows them to sell other items at a lower margin.

Vaperus

Theres also VAT here

richardw001

hmm - the reasoning above all makes sense I suppose - only thing that puzzles is the price relative to the T2/T3 heads - you would expect VAT and other such things to consistently affect all atomizer heads in a given shop and that there would be a 30-40% price differential between the evod and the other kanager heads

I guess shops charge what people are prepared to pay in the end of the day !

As a general comment - it would be nice if the mainstream market was moving to the point of the replaceable parts on a standard atomiser costing cents rather than a euro or two. That is for those of us that don't want to go messing with rebuilding and just want to buy something that slots in every month

StickyIcky

if you're not happy with price of heads mate just buy some wire and wick and rebuild them yourself. I'm not being smart, you do have a valid point, but I bought some wire and wick and will only buy clearos or atomisers I can rebuild myself now. It's cheaper and in a way even easier than ordering them.

grindle and vaperus are right about buying power and all the stuff that bumps up the prices. In order to be a vendor you need to buy in bulk and the more bulk you buy in the less they charge you and the less you can sell them for. Also shipping costs could play a part. Everything costs more to ship to Ireland.

richardw001

StickyIcky wrote: »

if you're not happy with price of heads mate just buy some wire and wick and rebuild them yourself. I'm not being smart, you do have a valid point, but I bought some wire and wick and will only buy clearos or atomisers I can rebuild myself now. It's cheaper and in a way even easier than ordering them.

grindle and vaperus are right about buying power and all the stuff that bumps up the prices. In order to be a vendor you need to buy in bulk and the more bulk you buy in the less they charge you and the less you can sell them for. Also shipping costs could play a part. Everything costs more to ship to Ireland.

Your right about the rebuilding - when I get sometime I'm going to sit down and figure it out ! just from a point of view of seeing how the thing works anyways. At the moment I'm lazy and its easier to add a few heads to orders - then messing with the innards of the atomizer heads

StickyIcky

richardw001 wrote: »

Your right about the rebuilding - when I get sometime I'm going to sit down and figure it out ! just from a point of view of seeing how the thing works anyways. At the moment I'm lazy and its easier to add a few heads to orders - then messing with the innards of the atomizer heads

Yip I used to be of that school of thought. Not saying either school is better or worse but for me it's kinda fun to poke around and once you do it a few times, it's so easy you're like, nah I'd much rather rebuild half a dozen heads myself than throw them in the bin and pay for new ones. It's so easy. Cut a peice of wick, cut a peice of wire, wrap the wire around wick, insert two ends of the wire, job done (basically anyway! ha there's a bit more faffing about to it than that admittedly)

GobblyNob

StickyIcky wrote: »

Wait till it gets really low, leave it sitting for a day. I only own one evod and it gurgled a lot when it was low until I fixed it.

Could be quality control issues. Ones from certain batches maybe like that. They are assembled by hand and the coils I think are made by hand too.

Where are you buying yours from?

My older evod from esmokeireland (I have it 11 days now) only gurgled once. After that I ensured that the coil was tight as **** after every refill. I vaped it till it was empty and nothing happened. So 10 days gurgle free, still vaping away like a mad yoke.

This second one, from thebestshop, is on its second refill. I'll vape this till it's empty, see what happens.

By the way, that fix with the silicone cap you did. Could it work with a spare piece of silicone from another evod head? Like this (I'm not going to try it as mine work fine, I'm just playing around with the spare coils I have):

Get a spare coil: http://i.imgur.com/EZkQA3y.jpg

Take off the silicone: http://i.imgur.com/usSZ0n6.jpg

Stick it on the other one (actually a very snug fit): http://i.imgur.com/vfddyMl.jpg

StickyIcky

It could work but you'd need a spare evod head and I'd much rather keep mine, rebuild them and just use the silicone from carto condoms instead. Interesting though. Your way seems easier quicker and will probably work.

GobblyNob wrote: »

My older evod from esmokeireland (I have it 11 days now) only gurgled once. After that I ensured that the coil was tight as **** after every refill. I vaped it till it was empty and nothing happened. So 10 days gurgle free, still vaping away like a mad yoke.

This second one, from thebestshop, is on its second refill. I'll vape this till it's empty, see what happens.

By the way, that fix with the silicone cap you did. Could it work with a spare piece of silicone from another evod head? Like this (I'm not going to try it as mine work fine, I'm just playing around with the spare coils I have):

Get a spare coil: http://i.imgur.com/EZkQA3y.jpg

Take off the silicone: http://i.imgur.com/usSZ0n6.jpg

Stick it on the other one (actually a very snug fit): http://i.imgur.com/vfddyMl.jpg

GobblyNob

Just vaped second evod to almost empty (didn't want to empty it 100% in case the wicks burned).

Nothing happened, except the wicks possibly burned a bit . Bit of a plasticky taste after refilling it.

Rattleshakes

GobblyNob wrote: »

Just vaped second evod to almost empty (didn't want to empty it 100% in case the wicks burned).

Nothing happened, except the wicks possibly burned a bit . Bit of a plasticky taste after refilling it.

Glad to hear you're not having any real issues with the Evod.I might grab one from ESI as the heads (CE4) I'm getting from another vendor aren't working-again!!!
Me thinks its time to start making my own

Rattleshakes

StickyIcky wrote: »

Yip I used to be of that school of thought. Not saying either school is better or worse but for me it's kinda fun to poke around and once you do it a few times, it's so easy you're like, nah I'd much rather rebuild half a dozen heads myself than throw them in the bin and pay for new ones. It's so easy. Cut a peice of wick, cut a peice of wire, wrap the wire around wick, insert two ends of the wire, job done (basically anyway! ha there's a bit more faffing about to it than that admittedly)

Sticky,what do you do for differing resistances? Do you use a different thickness for each?or is it down to how much wire is used?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it's down to the thickness of the wire, how much wire is used and partially to how much wick is used

if you wrap 6 turns of .20 kanthal around 2mm of wick you'll have a lower resistance than if you wrapped 6 turns of .20 kanthal around 4mm of wick, because the wire has to travel further to make a complete wrap of the wick

with wires .20 is for lower res, .15 for medium-high and you can adjust in those ranges by adding or removing a turn, so 4 turns of wire on the wick instead of six.

Green Hornet

To confuse it even more, I'm convinced that 0.2 gives better flavour than 0.15 at the same resistance. The extra turns of wire probably aid that I suppose....

I'm half convinced that 1mm x 4 gives a better coil than 2mm x 2 as well. I think the coil is more round than the oval coil from 2mm x 2.....

I'm half convinced that not using a splint (like a needle) gives a better coil too....

Probably all a load of rubbish....

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i got better coils not using a splint too, but you have to get it sitting on the wick just right or it can go wrong tasting