Gerry Adams in Mortgage Trouble??

paddy147

I heard this morning on RTE 1 that Mr Gerry Adams is in mortgage trouble himself.

Must be some house and some mortgage is this is true??

sfwcork

Im sure if he was there is plenty of banks he can "borrow" from

losthorizon

paddy147 wrote: »

I heard this morning on RTE 1 that Mr Gerry Adams is in mortgage trouble himself.

Must be some house and some mortgage is this is true??

He cant blame that on his TD salary as hes only been a TD for two years and I assume his house is up north.

I assume a TDs salary is more than an MPs salary.

I suppose they have stopped robbing banks so his income has dropped somewhat.

Alter-Ego

losthorizon wrote: »

He cant blame that on his TD salary as hes only been a TD for two years and I assume his house is up north.

I assume a TDs salary is more than an MPs salary.

I suppose they have stopped robbing banks so his income has dropped somewhat.

It was his money, he just didn't want to fill out the forms.

Balmed Out

I think he bought a house in Dundalk or Dorogheda but I cant see how he could be having mortgage problems.
Is the op sure he didnt just hear Adams giving an opinion on mortgage arrears or something similar?

Death and Taxes

He told Marian Finucane last week he was in trouble with the banks over his house in Donegal.

D1stant

Ah so he prepares the ground to take his full Dail salary

fasttalkerchat

His family home in Belfast and he has a holiday home in Donegal. Now that he's a TD I'd imagine he has one in Louth as well.

dxhound2005

Sunday Times.

Gerry Adams, the Sinn Fein leader, has remortgaged his holiday home in Donegal. Adams, who revealed last weekend that he was "in negotiations with the bank" over the house remortgaged it with Bank of Ireland on November 30. Adams and his wife Colette bought a plot outside Gortahork in 2000 with a mortgage of IR£50,000. They first installed a mobile home before constructing a traditional cut-stone cottage. The TD for Louth revealed last week the couple "was in deep trouble" over the property. "One of my ambitions is to keep that house at all costs, not for me but because my family use it. It's a great bolt hole" he told RTE Radio.

Shades of P Flynn here, for Brussels, Dublin and Mayo substitute Belfast, Louth and Donegal. Pretty impressive on a wage of €35,000 a year, P Flynn was taking home IR £100,000.

dvpower

Can't he get a dig out from the same people who flew him to the States recently for private healthcare?

paddy147

Balmed Out wrote: »

I think he bought a house in Dundalk or Dorogheda but I cant see how he could be having mortgage problems.
Is the op sure he didnt just hear Adams giving an opinion on mortgage arrears or something similar?

No I didnt get it wrong.....theres a story in some of the papers about Gerry Adams being in mortgage trouble himself,and they were talking about it on RTE this morning.
I overheard it while having my cuppa tea.

amacca

This is just the latest in a series of stories leaked by Gerry Adam's propaganda machine in a cynical attempt to detract attention from the much more serious issue of his beard

paddy147

So whats next and whos next then???

Enda Kenny owes AIB or Nama some money over property?????:pac:



Phil Hogan got into serious trouble over his Holiday Villa,,didnt he??

dxhound2005

amacca wrote: »

This is just the latest in a series of stories leaked by Gerry Adam's propaganda machine in a cynical attempt to detract attention from the much more serious issue of his beard

http://www.gubuwire.com/?p=2496

paddy147

dvpower wrote: »

Can't he get a dig out from the same people who flew him to the States recently for private healthcare?

So did Phil Hogan (Mr HHC and Porperty Tax) get himself out of all his financial problems and not paying his fees with his own property???

You never answered anyone on a previous thread over that matter...:pac:


Please do tell us all again,,,what was Mr Hogans EXCUSE for not paying???????

gg2

amacca wrote: »

This is just the latest in a series of stories leaked by Gerry Adam's propaganda machine in a cynical attempt to detract attention from the much more serious issue of his beard

Is it just my imagination or did he grow a beard because he was shot in the face (to cover the mark)??
Honestly could be pulling that info from my ass but I'm convinced I heard that somehere....

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Balmed Out wrote: »

I think he bought a house in Dundalk or Dorogheda but I cant see how he could be having mortgage problems.
Is the op sure he didnt just hear Adams giving an opinion on mortgage arrears or something similar?

It's a holiday home in Donegal.

I thought his book royalties alone would pay enough.

I don't believe for one second that Adams has any money worries.

dvpower

paddy147 wrote: »

So did Phil Hogan (Mr HHC and Porperty Tax) get himself out of all his financial problems and not paying his fees with his own property???

You never answered anyone on a previous thread over that matter...:pac:


Please do tell us all again,,,what was Mr Hogans EXCUSE for not paying???????

Why are you dragging your own thread off topic?

NIMAN

gg2 wrote: »

Is it just my imagination or did he grow a beard because he was shot in the face (to cover the mark)??
Honestly could be pulling that info from my ass but I'm convinced I heard that somehere....

He was hit in the neck, shoulder and arm, so you may well be right.

amacca

gg2 wrote: »

Is it just my imagination or did he grow a beard because he was shot in the face (to cover the mark)??
Honestly could be pulling that info from my ass but I'm convinced I heard that somehere....

Why let a little thing like the truth or proof get in the way of a good story

Personally I like that one (it has a plausibility to it) and I shall be re-telling it as gospel to friends and aquaintances at appropriate moments

if he ever shaves it and there is no scarring....then very costly private facial reconstruction clinic in switzerland with the bill footed in part by grass roots party contributions:D

mike65

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Sunday Times.

Gerry Adams, the Sinn Fein leader, has remortgaged his holiday home in Donegal. Adams, who revealed last weekend that he was "in negotiations with the bank" over the house remortgaged it with Bank of Ireland on November 30. Adams and his wife Colette bought a plot outside Gortahork in 2000 with a mortgage of IR£50,000. They first installed a mobile home before constructing a traditional cut-stone cottage. The TD for Louth revealed last week the couple "was in deep trouble" over the property. "One of my ambitions is to keep that house at all costs, not for me but because my family use it. It's a great bolt hole" he told RTE Radio.

Shades of P Flynn here, for Brussels, Dublin and Mayo substitute Belfast, Louth and Donegal. Pretty impressive on a wage of €35,000 a year, P Flynn was taking home IR £100,000.

Jasus he must be countless little hide always with his experience. Desperately trying to hold on to a holiday home sounds pretty stupid on its own terms.

mirwillbeback

He should be ok. I was told his house is a " safe " one.

latenia

So to summarise, Gery Adams is refusing to pay the (I presume) state owned bank money he owes it while at the same time he is in receipt of sufficient funds to do so from the public purse via his TD's salary but instead diverts the money to his party. I consider this theft of public money on the part of Sinn Féin. This is as bad as any Fianna Fáil stroke pulling-can anyone say the much-maligned Pee Flynn did anything worse?

Death and Taxes

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

His family home in Belfast and he has a holiday home in Donegal. Now that he's a TD I'd imagine he has one in Louth as well.

No, he doesn't.apparently he "stays with friends" when he "visits" his constituency. His words in the Marian Finoucane interview.

GRMA

gg2 wrote: »

Is it just my imagination or did he grow a beard because he was shot in the face (to cover the mark)??
Honestly could be pulling that info from my ass but I'm convinced I heard that somehere....

He has a beard because he is too lazy to shave... thats from the horses mouth


Hopefully he can get his problems sorted out re his house in Donegal

RandomName2

WileyCoyote wrote: »

No, he doesn't.apparently he "stays with friends" when he "visits" his constituency. His words in the Marian Finoucane interview.

If that was the case he wouldn't be legally entitled to stand for election in that constituency. Either he was lying then, or now, I suppose.

I'm just a tad sceptical that a man who had no problem claiming €1 million in a job he never worked in would now find himself so hard up he had to re-mortgage...

Of course he's only earning €93,000 basic salary ... before expenses...

Wait, is it April 1st yet?

Death and Taxes

RandomName2 wrote: »

If that was the case he wouldn't be legally entitled to stand for election in that constituency. Either he was lying then, or now, I suppose.

I'm just a tad sceptical that a man who had no problem claiming €1 million in a job he never worked in would now find himself so hard up he had to re-mortgage...

Of course he's only earning €93,000 basic salary ... before expenses...

Wait, is it April 1st yet?

Bollox! There is NO requirement in law that a person standing for election actually a house in that constituency.
In fact I'm not certain there is even a requirement that the candidate even normally reside in the constituency in which they stand.

dxhound2005

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Bollox! There is NO requirement in law that a person standing for election actually a house in that constituency.
In fact I'm not certain there is even a requirement that the candidate even normally reside in the constituency in which they stand.

Probably right. But Gerry managed to satisfy the authorities that he was entitled to be put on the electoral register in Louth so that he could vote for himself. I don't think that a UK citizen could gain this entitlement by just staying with friends in the Republic now and again. So he must have an interest in the property at his electoral register address in Co Louth.

Death and Taxes

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Probably right. But Gerry managed to satisfy the authorities that he was entitled to be put on the electoral register in Louth so that he could vote for himself. I don't think that a UK citizen could gain this entitlement by just staying with friends in the Republic now and again. So he must have an interest in the property at his electoral register address in Co Louth.

Residency would be enough, so say he lived at a certain address at the time he was put on the electoral register would suffice.

Nodin

gg2 wrote: »

Is it just my imagination or did he grow a beard because he was shot in the face (to cover the mark)??
Honestly could be pulling that info from my ass but I'm convinced I heard that somehere....

He had the beard before he was shot, afair.

dxhound2005

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Residency would be enough, so say he lived at a certain address at the time he was put on the electoral register would suffice.

Residency would involve some interest in the property either owning it, renting it, or paying board and lodings to the owner. I'd say the Dail authorities who deal with expenses would be interested in a situation where a TD was being given free accommodation by friends.

Apparently he may have questions to answer as well about the free gift of medical treatment he received in America.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2013/0213/1224329983081.html

paddy147

dvpower wrote: »

Why are you dragging your own thread off topic?

You like slinging mud,,but once it doesnt involve any of your FG bum chums.:rolleyes:

So did Big Phil pay all of his fees yet??


Would you care to tell everyone here why he didnt want to pay his fees and what his excuse to the media was for it too???

LordSutch

paddy147 wrote: »

Gerry Adams in Mortgage Trouble??

How sad.

Seaneh

latenia wrote: »

So to summarise, Gery Adams is refusing to pay the (I presume) state owned bank money he owes it while at the same time he is in receipt of sufficient funds to do so from the public purse via his TD's salary but instead diverts the money to his party. I consider this theft of public money on the part of Sinn Féin. This is as bad as any Fianna Fáil stroke pulling-can anyone say the much-maligned Pee Flynn did anything worse?

Where did it say he is refusing to pay any bank any money? It says he is talking to a bank about rearranging a payment structure, which is well within his rights to do.

People will look for any reason in the world to have a go at others.

Get off your high horse there bosco.

dxhound2005

It turns out that Mr Adams did not get any free accommodation in 2012 otherwise it would be declared here.

http://www.sipo.gov.ie/en/PressReleases/Name,16040,en.htm

So he is managing the upkeep of three residences on a salary of about €40,000, not surprising then that this has caused him some financial difficulty.

delthedriver

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It turns out that Mr Adams did not get any free accommodation in 2012 otherwise it would be declared here.

http://www.sipo.gov.ie/en/PressReleases/Name,16040,en.htm

So he is managing the upkeep of three residences on a salary of about €40,000, not surprising then that this has caused him some financial difficulty.

Amazing.
If he was in receipt of free accomodation, what is the position with Revenue and BIK?

Banjo String

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Probably right. But Gerry managed to satisfy the authorities that he was entitled to be put on the electoral register in Louth so that he could vote for himself. I don't think that a UK citizen could gain this entitlement by just staying with friends in the Republic now and again. So he must have an interest in the property at his electoral register address in Co Louth.

I'm pretty sure Gerry would not class himself as a 'UK citizen'

As is his right with the whole self determination thing..... Ex-president Mary McAleese, you classed her as a 'UK citizen' I presume?

You knew that though, and I've stupidly rose to the bait.

Banjo String

paddy147 wrote: »

You like slinging mud,,but once it doesnt involve any of your FG bum chums.:rolleyes:

So did Big Phil pay all of his fees yet??


Would you care to tell everyone here why he didnt want to pay his fees and what his excuse to the media was for it too???

Maybe his personal circumstances didn't allow him to pay it.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fine-gael-deputy-on-e110000-cant-take-wage-cut-26515140.html

Tin Foil Hat

D1stant wrote: »

Ah so he prepares the ground to take his full Dail salary

Gerry Adams has always drawn his full Dail salary, as has every Shinner.

dvpower

paddy147 wrote: »

You like slinging mud,,but once it doesnt involve any of your FG bum chums.:rolleyes:

Your behaviour is getting more and more bizarre

paddy147

SamHall wrote: »

Maybe his personal circumstances didn't allow him to pay it.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fine-gael-deputy-on-e110000-cant-take-wage-cut-26515140.html

Well to quote EXACTLY what Phil Hogan told the media about not paying a charge...



“Would you pay a charge if you were unhappy with the service?”.


http://www.thejournal.ie/reilly-defends-hogans-e4k-of-unpaid-service-charges-on-portugal-holiday-home-403425-Apr2012/

paddy147

dvpower wrote: »

Your behaviour is getting more and more bizarre

So anyone from FG and Labour can do no wrong then.You defend them to the hilt whatever wrong they do.

But you like to throw mud at everyone else though....dont you???:rolleyes:

dvpower

paddy147 wrote: »

But you like to throw mud at everyone else though....dont you???:rolleyes:

You started the thread.
I think it was about Gerry Adams :pac:

paddy147

dvpower wrote: »

You started the thread.
I think it was about Gerry Adams :pac:

I did indeed...did I sling mud at the man?

NO

Did I run him into the ground??

NO


You decided to have a jab at him over his operation.....yet all the people that show you what wrong FG and Labour are doing and you seem to be in complete denial.

You defend Enda,Eamon,Micheal and Phil to the hilt and lord it down over everyone about the HHC and Property Tax and how great FG and Labour are.

Open your eyes man....Phil Hogan said he wasnt paying,because he wasnt happy with the service....and you dont see anything wrong in that and then him forcing hard pressed broke people to pay a HHC and property tax???


You are living in a bubble of complete denial there along with your bum chums Enda,Eamon,Micheal and Phil.




I wonder what you will say and what excuses you will come up with for all of them,if this Prom Note Deal/Farce is found to be illegal.

Ah but sure they all are saints in the world of FG and Labour..so are you.

Maybe Enda might let you lick his lolipop one day if you keep on pandering to him.:rolleyes:

Francie Barrett

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gerry Adams has always drawn his full Dail salary, as has every Shinner.

Sinn Féin TD's are paid the average industrial wage (or something to that effect) with the rest of the money going towards funding the party.

dvpower

paddy147 wrote: »

I did indeed...did I sling mud at the man?

NO

Did I run him into the ground??

NO


You decided to have a jab at him over his operation.....yet all the people that show you what wrong FG and Labour are doing and you seem to be in complete denial.

You defend Enda,Eamon,Micheal and Phil to the hilt and lord it down over everyone about the HHC and Property Tax and how great FG and Labour are.

Open your eyes man....Phil Hogan said he wasnt paying,because he wasnt happy with the service....and you dont see anything wrong in that and then him forcing hard pressed broke people to pay a HHC and property tax???


You are living in a bubble of complete denial there along with your bum chums Enda,Eamon,Micheal and Phil.




I wonder what you will say and what excuses you will come up with for all of them,if and when this Prom Note is found to be illegal.

Ah but sure they all are saints in the world of FG and Labour..so are you.

Maybe Enda might let you lick his lolipop one day if you keep on pandering to him.:rolleyes:

You need help.

Tin Foil Hat

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Sinn Féin TD's are paid the average industrial wage (or something to that effect) with the rest of the money going towards funding the party.

The manner in which Sinn Fein TDs spend their wages is irrelevant. They draw their full wages from the state. A Sinn Fein TD costs the state the same as every other TD. More, if you count the toner.

dvpower

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Sinn Féin TD's are paid the average industrial wage (or something to that effect) with the rest of the money going towards funding the party.

They are paid the full amount and they choose to donate some of their earnings to their favourite cause - their party.

paddy147

dvpower wrote: »

You need help.

You need ALOT of it and you need to wake up to the reality of what FG and Labour are doing.

Pandering to Merkil and the Germans and blatantly fcuk over the Irish People and Domestic economy in the process.:mad:

Cork boy 55

He just joined twitter along with marty yapping away about gays and stuff

dvpower

paddy147 wrote: »

You need ALOT of it and you need to wake up to the reality of what FG and Labour are doing.

Pandering to Merkil and the Germans and blatantly fcuk over the Irish People and Domestic economy in the process.:mad:

OK. Thanks for your input. Got to go now .... there are some Jehovah's Witnesses at the door that I need to have a chat to.