Best new 2013 small automatic?

Alanstrainor

Don't worry its not for me!:p

I'm on the hunt for the best small automatic around for my mother. I'm thinking cars from fiesta to focus kind of size. The car will be a city car, will cover about 5000km a year, so it will have to be petrol, and the plan would be to keep it for 5 years or more.

So in short the requirements are as follows:
Petrol
Automatic
5 door hatch
Low tax (could argue the point and get away from that tho...)
Decent economy
Unsure of budget, just looking for options at this stage.
Looking for a 13 reg also.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

knifey_spoonie

In before Mad_Lad, Nissan Leaf

galwaytt

Alanstrainor wrote: »

So in short the requirements are as follows:
Petrol
Automatic
5 door hatch
Low tax (could argue the point and get away from that tho...)
Decent economy
Unsure of budget, just looking for options at this stage.

knifey_spoonie wrote: »

In before Mad_Lad, Nissan Leaf

...and where do you put the petrol in that, exactly............ ???;)

Prius naturally springs to mind, or, shorter, the Auris - I had the loan of one for 2 weeks: have a read about it here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=82907263

colm_mcm

Yards hybrid, although at 5k a year, even a TVR wouldn't be out of the question

OssianSmyth

skoda fabia dsg
honda insight
renault zoe
honda jazz auto

ba_barabus

Skoda Yeti DSG

mitosis

MITO, 5 door out this year

GavMan

OSI wrote: »

Don't think they sell the selespeed in Ireland though do they?

Factory order will get you whatever you want...

mitosis

OSI wrote: »

Don't think they sell the selespeed in Ireland though do they?

Don't they? I don't know - I presumed they would.

Alanstrainor

Definitely going to see if we can test drive a yaris hybrid. Might struggle to get the them on board with the leaf, but it would make a lot of sense

Does the Polo come with DSG? Didn't see it on their site, but the VW site is pants. If it does i presume its the 1.2 TSI?

colm_mcm

Think it comes with the 85hp 1.4 petrol comfortline
€19k plus charges

RootX

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Does the Polo come with DSG? Didn't see it on their site, but the VW site is pants. If it does i presume its the 1.2 TSI?

POLO CL 1.4 5DR 85HP DSG I believe.

model range - pdf

colm_mcm

Price gone up since last year so

Alanstrainor

Wouldn't touch that 1.4 with a barge poll tbh!

MuppetCheck

Skoda Fabia 1.2tsi DSG, preferably the Monte Carlo edition. I believe this one is not the 60bhp mentioned, possibly the 85bhp version as opposed to the 105bhp.

colm_mcm

Looks ridiculous though

MuppetCheck

colm_mcm wrote: »

Looks ridiculous though

Ah they're not that bad! Black and red would make me vomit but ti could be toned down a bit and is a lot cheaper than the equivalent Polo.

colm_mcm

Would you make Alans mum drive one?

bazz26

VW Up:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Up!/MOVE-UP/31913552451671830/

Seat Mii:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=34213599914937030&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20SEAT%20Mii%2C%20Automatic%20Transmission%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=102854300&CFTOKEN=26591043&jsessionid=f030134c9db697db90c864235f4619c01223

Skoda Citigo:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Citigo/AUTO-AMBITION/30813504912460790/

Suzuki Swift:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Suzuki/Swift/1.2-Glx/131097949003371/

Honda Jazz:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/Jazz/EXECUTIVE-CVT/9713395082530570/

colm_mcm

The up! Has a stupid automated ASG manual box though.

Alanstrainor

Me and my dad actually suggested the 1.2TSI Fabia, but after showing her, even the best looking model, its simply not happening!

The Up, Mii and the likes are just too small i reckon. She would like a class up from them. I think she's thinking anywhere from fiesta to focus size. But i reckon we're more in the fiesta range.

What's the story with the new Ibiza? Available in 1.2TSI with DSG? Showed her that and she quite liked it.

Jazz is definitely on the cards also, the Swift is getting on a bit, what's the auto box in them like? And i presume its the 1.5?

bazz26

No idea what the autos are like in small cars, DSG aside I'd say they are pretty basic and most might be CVT rather than out and out slush box. Swift I linked to is 1.2 litre apparently and that model was revamped in 2010 afaik even though it looks very similar to the previous model. Jazz is a decent package but they are expensive for what you get.

bazz26

Yaris Hybrid might be worth looking at too:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Toyota/Yaris/1.5-HYBRID/31413577580396620/

Matthewjohn

Its a bit out there, but how about a 1.2 TSI Beetle ?

Alanstrainor

Matthewjohn wrote: »

Its a bit out there, but how about a 1.2 TSI Beetle ?

Not enough doors unfortunately.

MuppetCheck

colm_mcm wrote: »

Would you make Alans mum drive one?

Depends. If Alan could ask her to bake me a cake and I will decide after that.

:P

Alanstrainor

Yaris hybrid interests me. Wonder what the auto box is like in them?

colm_mcm

Same idea as the Prius, a bit screamy on hard accelleration but absolutely fine. I think its the ideal automatic city car once you can justify spending that much money on a car.
That said, its only a few hundred more than the polo 1.4, the standard model is actually cheaper, and to be fair, even the standard model has dual climate, bluetooth, leather wheel, iPod integration, reversing camera, and the luxury model has cruise, keyless start. Half leather, fogs and alloys for €1k extra

3 years free servicing too.

Alanstrainor

colm_mcm wrote: »

Same idea as the Prius, a bit screamy on hard accelleration but absolutely fine. I think its the ideal automatic city car once you can justify spending that much money on a car.
That said, its only a few hundred more than the polo 1.4, the standard model is actually cheaper, and to be fair, even the standard model has dual climate, bluetooth, leather wheel, iPod integration, reversing camera, and the luxury model has cruise, keyless start. Half leather, fogs and alloys for €1k extra

3 years free servicing too.

Just looking at the toyota site, and configuring the non hybrid Yaris with an auto box and it comes to the same price as the hybrid, something wrong there!

The Jazz comes to 19665 ex works with the auto box in SE guise.

Even the Ibiza with pretty sparse spec seems to come to 18500 with 1.2 TSI autobox.

Stallingrad

€6290 for a Navigation pack on a Prius?

€4000 for leather?

:eek:

knifey_spoonie

Dont forget the 1.33 MMT doesn't have AC, Its a weird situation where the higher spec model is cheaper, partly due to the lower VRT of the Hybrid.

As colm said they have a CVT box which some dislike. People sometimes call it droney due to the constant engine noise as there is no stepping through gear ratio's, it maintains a near constant rev under acceleration. The upside to this is the fact its silky smooth.

Casati

OSI wrote: »

Yeah Ibiza 5Dr Style is available with the 105bhp 1.2TSI and DSG for a little over €18k

Sounds like a good deal. Ford do a 1.6 Auto Fiesta but I think its over 20k

colm_mcm

Is the hybrid yaris built in Japan or France?

Alanstrainor

Hopefully Japan

Going to check out the Yaris tomorrow!

colm_mcm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Hopefully Japan

Going to check out the Yaris tomorrow!

Turns out its France

Alanstrainor

So thanks to knifey_spoonie i got to test drive the hybrid Yaris in luxury spec today. Have to say both myself and the mammy and daddy were very impressed. The interior finish was surprisingly good. Liked the half leather seats. Wasn't sure about some of the interior trim, but that's just me being picky tbh.

As for driving it. Its odd. Around town, if it weren't for the display on the dash telling you, you'd never notice when the petrol motor actually starts up. Was very impressed with how seamless it was. All very quiet inside, which was surprising on such a small car. I got to drive up the motorway for a bit, which is a bit outside the cars comfort zone, but it was grand. Took a while to get up to speed, and that drone that was mentioned evident when you have your boot stuck in it. But once there it was well planted and comfortable.

I was impressed, the dad was impressed and so was the mammy. All in all, a cool and interesting motor that fits the bill.

Alanstrainor

Cheers knifey_spoonie:D

Barry Barry

What size engine is in it?

colm_mcm

Barry Barry wrote: »

What size engine is in it?

1.5 barry



No credit to me for suggesting it of course...

Barry Barry

colm_mcm wrote: »

1.5 barry



No credit to me for suggesting it of course...

Oh, right.

I thought it was the 1.8 thats in the Auris but then thought a 1.8 is quite big for a Yaris.