Received notice from Hungary

JackieBurke

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

MugMugs

JackieBurke wrote: »

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

Bit more background would be nice.

Your car / Hire Car / Go Kart made from a disused phone box?

JOSman

Wasn't a country I enjoyed and never plan to return.

Best of luck on your decision.

yop

JackieBurke wrote: »

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

Regardless of whether you intend to visit or not they have your address and if its like the M50 toll that 400 euro is probably clocking up by the day until it MAY get to a figure where they will find a debt collector to visit your house and take the payment. Then you won't be planning to go back as you won't be able to afford it

Good luck with the decision but they have your address.

650Ginge

yop wrote: »

Regardless of whether you intend to visit or not they have your address and if its like the M50 toll that 400 euro is probably clocking up by the day until it MAY get to a figure where they will find a debt collector to visit your house and take the payment. Then you won't be planning to go back as you won't be able to afford it

Good luck with the decision but they have your address.

On what legal basis could they enter you home and do this.

giant_midget

yop wrote: »

Regardless of whether you intend to visit or not they have your address and if its like the M50 toll that 400 euro is probably clocking up by the day until it MAY get to a figure where they will find a debt collector to visit your house and take the payment. Then you won't be planning to go back as you won't be able to afford it

Good luck with the decision but they have your address.

FOP - File it away in the green bin and foget about it...

CiniO

650Ginge wrote: »

On what legal basis could they enter you home and do this.

They wouldn't.
If OP was living in Hungary - then yes.
But they can't do it if he's living in Ireland.

CiniO

JackieBurke wrote: »

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

There isn't any tolls which would cost 400 euro.

Maybe it's 400 Forints (HUF).

Otherwise it might be a fine - but for what?

shooter88

Send a letter back saying the person the fine is for no longer lives at this address..

BMJD

JackieBurke wrote: »

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

I received a letter saying I won the Spanish Lottery

sucks 2 B U!

munchkin_utd

JackieBurke wrote: »

I received a letter this morning looking for a toll of €400. I am tempted to bin it as I never plan to return there. Seems a tad excessive.

seems actually a little low as the fine after 15days (seems to be similar to an eFlow video account in Ireland) is actually €564.22.

The fine for not preregistering is 39,600 which is 135euro if paid within the 15 days of getting caught using the road without preregistering, but i presume that its outside this period already.

I didnt know they banashed the sticker and have this e - toll type effort, but its no harm as it was a pain in the hole to have to get it at the border.

heres the fine info:
http://www.motorway.hu/payment/matricainfo_en/potdijak_eng

yop

CiniO wrote: »

They wouldn't.
If OP was living in Hungary - then yes.
But they can't do it if he's living in Ireland.

Definitely not? Ah put it in the bin then

Indricotherium

yop wrote: »

Definitely not? Ah put it in the bin then

Seriously? taking this kind of advice from a stranger off the internet as gospel?

yop

Indricotherium wrote: »

Seriously? taking this kind of advice from a stranger off the internet as gospel?

Of course. The internet is all knowledgeable. I always believe tinternet.

Cienciano

shooter88 wrote: »

Send a letter back saying the person the fine is for no longer lives at this address..

That's a good one. Your move, hungarian tolls company

ABajaninCork

The debt was incurred in the EU and you can be legally chased for it here. But how far they can go to enforce is another matter.

pcardin

don't put in the bin. make gulasch out of it.

ABajaninCork

pcardin wrote: »

don't put in the bin. make gulasch out of it.

You mean goulash?

166man

For sheer peace of mind, I'd write back and say you will pay the toll monthly until it's paid off if you don't have the full €400 at the current time.

Under no circumstances would I say throw it away, you'll be constantly thinking about it, and so you should, as said Hungary is in the EU, I'd be very surprised if they were't able to chase you.

Good luck, but I'd be paying that toll.

pcardin

ABajaninCork wrote: »

You mean goulash?

no, I mean gulyás Goulash (eng) is just as wrong as Gulasch (de).

anyway back to OP...since you you have received it by post at your address they have your address probably given by the car rental company or if it was a rental car then most likely renter reiceved fine and just redirected to you. If you throw the fine away it wont definitely solve anything. Institution might not chase after you (seeing that u are in Ireland) but will chase after car rental company. They however can chase after you or blacklist your name in their database which means you will never rent a car again. Something similar happened to one of my work mate, jsut his fine was 10 times less.

bidiots

Send me on the notice and €200 and I'll sort it for you....

biko

There is a framework to chase citizens in EU for fines from member states but I don't think it's been implemented yet. And in Ireland it'll probably take 10 years after UK have implemented it.

Was it a registered letter?

If it wasn't, then just ignore it, as there is no proof you actually received it.

If it's a rental car company, they will probably just bill your credit card company.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Send it back with 'Nit known at this address' written clearly on the front of it.

I don't see how a debt collection agency can compel you to pay as it would require legislation to cover the event of you not paying and I don't think a fine from another jurisdiction is covered in these cases.

derry

A large group of Irish Polish Hungarians use the M50 in Dublin and never pay the M50tolls and never will

The letters the M50 and the toll companies across europe send you is a NOTICE with some sort of jumoed up threats of wht they would do

So if I sent you a NOTICE ( not a invoice ) saying you cursed on O Connel street and I am going to fine you for cursing in public I presume you would bin that notice. They have no more right to demand with a NOTICE than i do .
I

Its the same with all these so called legal hyped up stuff the are all just a NOTiCE with some sort of threat.

You can see from tis link
http://tnsradio.ning.com/forum/topics/how-to-stop-an-eflow-notice
how you reply to a NOTICE demand for a M50 demand
then if your in the humor make copy of that send it to Hungary and you will never hear from them again

or merly RTS the letter

Return to sender with all the suitable stuff atttached

RETURN TO SENDER
NO LIABILITY
NO INTERNATIONAL TREATY
I DO NOT RECOGNIZE YOUR INTENT
NO ASSURED VALUE

RTS reply will send most solicitors lawyers of toll companies to binning the letter they sent you as they can see they cant con and screw you

Good luck I prefer the toilet pare route worked well for hospital bills and other stuff i got in main land Europe and most everything falls of the system after a few years

Derry

JackieBurke

It was a notice for an Irish reg car used in Hungary. Forgot about the toll there and drove straight thru to Austria.

I might just file it in the green bin with my junk mail.