North Korean Nuke

TheBigLebowski

Nort Korea just detonated a nuke. This is bad.

Retrovertigo

No it isn't. They aren't doing too well on detonating them properly.

TheBigLebowski

Well it seems they done a bloody good job on this one.

Cereal Number

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

Well it seems they done a bloody good job on this one.

If the dude says so

kneemos

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

Nort Korea just detonated a nuke. This is bad.

Didn't hear a thing.

Amirani

USGS reporting seismic activity measuring 4.9 on the Richter Scale. Most signs point to it being a successful nuclear test.

orestes

Nah, he just made everyone jump at the same time to scare the sh*t out of the Americans.

Totofan99

Uh oh!

Anyone know where I can buy a good fallout shelter?

dodderangler

orestes wrote: »

Nah, he just made everyone jump at the same time to scare the sh*t out of the Americans.

You want to scare Americans then tell them all their food is fat free

Dublinfan

ok something needs to be Done quick... There out of there mind and planning to strike when they can

B.A._Baracus

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21421841


I still think it's mad tho. The United States has had nuclear weapons since 1945. You'd think the knowledge and people are out there for other countries to of gotten nuclear weapons well before now. I know economy comes into it ... but still... yanks had it since 1945. You would think more countries would have the same power knowing the decades that have passed.

Amirani

Dublinfan wrote: »

ok something needs to be Done quick... There out of there mind and planning to strike when they can

Any suggestions?

Amirani

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21421841


I still think it's mad tho. The United States has had nuclear weapons since 1945. You'd think the knowledge and people are out there for other countries to of gotten nuclear weapons well before now. I know economy comes into it ... but still... yanks had it since 1945. You would think more countries would have the same power knowing the decades that have passed.

The knowledge is definitely out there. The actual mechanism of nukes isn't a big secret. What's difficult it the enrichment of uranium and creation of the weapons with the UN Security Council not wanting you to get them. They're not cheap either.

Lapin

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

Nort Korea just detonated a nuke. This is bad.

I was wondering what that loud bang was out the back.

Ah well.

Anyway, Robbie Keane is on BBC News 24 talking about David Beckham going to Paris.

TheUsual

Team America just bombed the palace.

Lapin

Dublinfan wrote: »

ok something needs to be Done quick... There out of there mind and planning to strike when they can

NiallSparky wrote: »

Any suggestions?

Yeah. He needs to use a capital O in 'ok' at the start of the sentence.

No need for a capital D in 'Done'.

'There' should be spelled They're in both instances in the second sentence.

And he left out the full stop at the end.

kraggy

I'm on the subway on my way to work here in Seoul. Nobody seems to be too bothered.

Strange for them to test it today though. It's New Year's celebrations these couple of days. One of the most important holidays in the year.

kneemos

kraggy wrote: »

I'm on the subway on my way to work here in Seoul. Nobody seems to be too bothered.

Strange for them to test it today though. It's New Year's celebrations these couple of days. One of the most important holidays in the year.

Well if they're not bothered in Seoul I don't think I'll worry.

Totofan99

Lapin wrote: »

Yeah. He needs to use a capital O in 'ok' at the start of the sentence.

No need for a capital D in 'Done'.

'There' should be spelled They're in both instances in the second sentence.

And he left out the full stop at the end.

Actually the second 'there' should be 'their'.

Sorry, I couldn't resist!! :pac:

Lapin

Totofan99 wrote: »

Actually the second 'there' should be 'their'.

Sorry, I couldn't resist!! :pac:

I was hoping someone would spot my ahem deliberate mistake.

Totofan99 gets this weeks gold star sticker !



Anyway, about that nuke - any news since ?

Tombi!

Lapin wrote: »

I was hoping someone would spot my ahem deliberate mistake.

Totofan99 gets this weeks gold star sticker !



Anyway, about that nuke - any news since ?

Why would you put a space between the word "sticker" and the exclamation mark?

I had to. I'm really sorry but I feckin' had to point it out.

kneemos

Lapin wrote: »

I was hoping someone would spot my ahem deliberate mistake.

Totofan99 gets this weeks gold star sticker !



Anyway, about that nuke - any news since ?

No mutants so far thank god.

CollardGreens

Should I order more filters for the gas mask yet, you think Amazon will run a sale?

The Big Red Button

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Why would put a space between the word "sticker" and the exclamation mark?

Why would you omit the third word in that sentence? :P

Killer Wench

Phfftt... if you'are from the west coast of the US, then a 4.5 ain't nothing.

Killer Wench

Killer Wench wrote: »

Phfftt... if you'are from the west coast of the US, then a 4.5 ain't nothing.

Hmm... "ain't nothing" is a double negative...




Everybody run! :eek:

W.Shakes-Beer

I felt nothing anyway...

ITS_A_BADGER

We should write them a strongly worded letter

MrPoker

NiallSparky wrote: »

Any suggestions?

We should say a mass.

Seaneh

They might have a bomb but their lack of icbms means they cant really do much with them so we're grand over this side of the world.

CollardGreens

My satellite dish is stuck on pokemon, the strongly worded letter is justified now.

Banjo String

Gilmore has condemned the tests in the strongest manner possible. :pac:

The world stops and listens. :rolleyes:

shanered

We should use the game theory on this one and let off a bigger nuke....that'll show'em!

Just goes to show that if they can manage it somewhere like Iran could've had one ages ago if they really wanted to.

crazygeryy

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

I felt nothing anyway...

that's what she said last night..........,.....ok ok ill leave.

conorhal

kraggy wrote: »

I'm on the subway on my way to work here in Seoul. Nobody seems to be too bothered.

Strange for them to test it today though. It's New Year's celebrations these couple of days. One of the most important holidays in the year.

Perhaps they're planning on hosting the 'fireworks display'?......

Dublin Red Devil

If North Korea were any kind of a real threat. The US would blow them out of the water.

639,000 active and over 3 million reserve force in South Korea along with over 30,000 Korean based U.S force would storm the DMZ on the ground and through the air

40,000 US marines based on the west coast of japan with 18 US Navy war ships, Including destroyers, amphibious assault ships, command ships, attack submarines, avengers, ballistic missile and guided missile Cruisers.

kneemos

conorhal wrote: »

Perhaps they're planning on hosting the 'fireworks display'?......

Boom boom.

Duggy747

Probably just a big black cat banger they set off.

Capt'n Midnight

NK isn't going to launch a nuke at the US

Even if they haven't already smuggled in some ex soviet blackmarket bombs you could buy everything you need to make a fertilizer bomb in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_Disaster

The fire detonated approximately 2,300 tons of ammonium nitrate[1] and the resulting chain reaction of fires and explosions killed at least 581 people, including all but one member of the Texas City fire department.[2] These events also triggered the first ever class action lawsuit against the United States government, under the then-recently enacted Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA), on behalf of 8,485 victims.

smcgiff

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

If North Korea were any kind of a real threat. The US would blow them out of the water.

Been there. Tried That. Lucky to get away with their T-Shirt.

seamus

NiallSparky wrote: »

The knowledge is definitely out there. The actual mechanism of nukes isn't a big secret. What's difficult it the enrichment of uranium and creation of the weapons with the UN Security Council not wanting you to get them. They're not cheap either.

Indeed, rockets capable of reliably travelling more than a few hundred km with an atomic payload are insanely expensive. Even though they've been around for a long time now, it's not the kind of thing someone can build in their back garden during the summer.

Funny thing about the reporting on this is how the writing is loaded. The assumption is that North Korea's plan is to build an atomic weapon which is capable of being fired at the US. One of them said, "This atomic test – North Korea’s third since 2006 – is expected to take Pyongyang closer to possessing nuclear-tipped missiles designed to strike the United States."

Considering they're at war with South Korea, which is considerably closer than the US, I'm going go with the more obvious thought and assume they're designing it for use against South Korea. Typical of the US to assume that anyone possessing nuclear weapons, plans on using it on them. "Look out Ned, he's coming straight for us, shoot him!"

NK isn't religious fundamentalist, I don't think they see any benefit in nuking the rest of the world. And Jong-Un isn't an idiot. I suspect his plan is to have these weapons as a bargaining chip as he eases trade restrictions and gradually opens up North Korea to the rest of the world, in the same way that China has done.
If the country is known as a nuclear power then the UN will be less antagonistic when negotiating on trade agreements, dropping embargoes, etc.

MonkieSocks

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

Nort Korea just detonated a nuke. This is bad. Mkay

Fixed

crazygeryy

Quote=Dublin Red Devil;83175822]If North Korea were any kind of a real threat. The US would blow them out of the water.

639,000 active and over 3 million reserve force in South Korea along with over 30,000 Korean based U.S force would storm the DMZ on the ground and through the air

40,000 US marines based on the west coast of japan with 18 US Navy war ships, Including destroyers, amphibious assault ships, command ships, attack submarines, avengers, ballistic missile and guided missile Cruisers.[/Quote]

yea but wouldn't China come to their defence?arent they allies sort of?

Banjo String

Seemingly it was a big gaff by the military.

Kim and his takeaways :rolleyes:

BillyMitchel

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

If North Korea were any kind of a real threat. The US would blow them out of the water.

639,000 active and over 3 million reserve force in South Korea along with over 30,000 Korean based U.S force would storm the DMZ on the ground and through the air

40,000 US marines based on the west coast of japan with 18 US Navy war ships, Including destroyers, amphibious assault ships, command ships, attack submarines, avengers, ballistic missile and guided missile Cruisers.

This!

Thing is though, if they unexpectly attacked Seoul, a city of 20+ million could easy be wiped out.


Korea and Koreans can be pretty strange though so they won't make much of this. Just asked my Korean friend and they aren't bothered at all.

They'll just say shipseki to the great leader and go on with their lives.

Pilotdude5

seamus

seamus wrote: »

Indeed, rockets capable of reliably travelling more than a few hundred km with an atomic payload are insanely expensive. Even though they've been around for a long time now, it's not the kind of thing someone can build in their back garden during the summer.

Funny thing about the reporting on this is how the writing is loaded. The assumption is that North Korea's plan is to build an atomic weapon which is capable of being fired at the US. One of them said, "This atomic test – North Korea’s third since 2006 – is expected to take Pyongyang closer to possessing nuclear-tipped missiles designed to strike the United States."

Considering they're at war with South Korea, which is considerably closer than the US, I'm going go with the more obvious thought and assume they're designing it for use against South Korea. Typical of the US to assume that anyone possessing nuclear weapons, plans on using it on them. "Look out Ned, he's coming straight for us, shoot him!"

NK isn't religious fundamentalist, I don't think they see any benefit in nuking the rest of the world. And Jong-Un isn't an idiot. I suspect his plan is to have these weapons as a bargaining chip as he eases trade restrictions and gradually opens up North Korea to the rest of the world, in the same way that China has done.
If the country is known as a nuclear power then the UN will be less antagonistic when negotiating on trade agreements, dropping embargoes, etc.

Let me stop you right there. What makes you think he isn`t an idiot?
I mean what do you know about this guy? What does anyone know about him? Nothing. Total dictatorship and you want Americans to trust nuclear weapons with a guy who claims to be developing them to strike at the US with. In fact that is about all we know about him.

Excuse me if I don`t blame the yanks if they turn North Korea into glass with some instant sunshine.

dienbienphu

Who's he legitimate successor to this guy if he's ever taken out by the Americans? It seems as though its the only viable option left.

smcgiff

dienbienphu wrote: »

Who's he legitimate successor to this guy if he's ever taken out by the Americans? It seems as though its the only viable option left.

I can only imagine more of the same. NK was going down this road before he took over.

It's not clear if he's actually in power or a puppet.

I don't think taking him out would be the answer. And it's possibly one scenario that could lead to Seoul being vaporised.

seamus

Deleted User wrote: »

Let me stop you right there. What makes you think he isn`t an idiot?
I mean what do you know about this guy? What does anyone know about him?

He was educated in Switzerland meaning that he is at least aware of the rest of the modern world, and his reforms and public appearances since coming to power would seem to indicate that he understands the value of engaging with the rest of the world, as well as the importance of maintaining the cult of personality. So at the very least we know he's not a raving loony and has some degree of savvy.

a guy who claims to be developing them to strike at the US with

When did he claim this?

Who's he legitimate successor to this guy if he's ever taken out by the Americans? It seems as though its the only viable option left.

He has a number of brothers and a child. Chances are if he was taken out, one of his brothers would step in until his child (assuming it's a boy) could take power.

Though removing him would mean his successor would have slightly diminished power. There's a good chance it could lead to a power struggle and a military coup, with his family being removed from the upper echelons of power. And a military-led North Korea with nukes would be ten times worse than Jong-Un, IMHO.