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Have you ever been scammed by friends/family?

  • 10-02-2013 7:21am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭


    It happened to me about 6 years ago when I loaned a guy who I thought was one of my best friends €300

    When I asked for it back he denied all knowledge.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    One of my friends owes me a decent lunch (~ EUR 15) for the last 2 years. Don't think I'll ever get it back.

    He got me with the old 'left my wallet at home'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    He got me with the old 'left my wallet at home'.

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    ;)

    I know, I know. He only said it as the bill arrived. And knowing him, he probably didn't have the wallet with him.

    He'd be from your neck of the woods - Cavan / Monaghan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    Not me, but my grandmother by her son. She sold him a plot of land on the side of her house for €80 grand for him to build a house on, she never recived the money in full but was given a bank card in his name and told the money was all there, she never seen a statement or found out how much was in the account, the money dried up pretty quickly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    joe stodge wrote: »
    Not me, but my grandmother by her son. She sold him a plot of land on the side of her house for €80 grand for him to build a house on, she never recived the money in full but was given a bank card in his name and told the money was all there, she never seen a statement or found out how much was in the account, the money dried up pretty quickly.

    she sold a site to her own son and she did not sell it cheap either, don't know who is worse here the mother or the son or is it a case of two of a kind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    joe stodge wrote: »
    Not me, but my grandmother by her son. She sold him a plot of land on the side of her house for €80 grand for him to build a house on, she never recived the money in full but was given a bank card in his name and told the money was all there, she never seen a statement or found out how much was in the account, the money dried up pretty quickly.


    When she was using the card would she not of just pressed check balance instead of withdraw?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    joe stodge wrote: »
    was given a bank card in his name and told the money was all there, she never seen a statement or found out how much was in the account, the money dried up pretty quickly.

    A very odd way to do business - she was obviously very trusting of him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    My mothers brother is scum, he has tried to scam the whole family at one stage or another.
    He even tried to sell his ex-wifes home while she was in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭wush06


    Bought a top of the range bag of sugar for 200 couple of years ago. It was meant to be a Camcorder.

    Just seen the Title again it was not friends or family. But from people that travel a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭jimmy180sx


    Recently came back from the uk with £100 left over. My father in law said he would exchange it for €100. The wife was there at the time and i felt i couldnt refuse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    wush06 wrote: »
    Bought a top of the range bag of sugar for 200 couple of years ago. It was meant to be a Camcorder.

    Just seen the Title again it was not friends or family. But from people that travel a lot.


    Was it Bill and Ted?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    jimmy180sx wrote: »
    Recently came back from the uk with £100 left over. My father in law said he would exchange it for €100. The wife was there at the time and i felt i couldnt refuse.

    Reasonable. You would get about that at a currency exchange and he is stopping you having to bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    juan.kerr wrote: »

    I know, I know. He only said it as the bill arrived. And knowing him, he probably didn't have the wallet with him.

    He'd be from your neck of the woods - Cavan / Monaghan.
    that's a typical Cavan man trick ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    As a kid, Exchanged 5ps for 2ps with older siblings coz they were "bigger" :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    jimmy180sx wrote: »
    Recently came back from the uk with £100 left over. My father in law said he would exchange it for €100. The wife was there at the time and i felt i couldnt refuse.

    Saw that happening one day in town, to a fella i used to have a pint with - its was a class switch. I think he learned - if it looks too good to be true....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    When I was younger, my older brother used to swap me two big monies for one big money. Bastard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭jimmy180sx



    Reasonable. You would get about that at a currency exchange and he is stopping you having to bother.
    I live four doors down from my local bank branch i would have got near €130 exchange. He probably went in a did the exact thing i wanted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    jimmy180sx wrote: »
    I live four doors down from my local bank branch i would have got near €130 exchange. He probably went in a did the exact thing i wanted

    €130 seems high, id say around €116 would be more realistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    One of my friends owes me a decent lunch (~ EUR 15) for the last 2 years. Don't think I'll ever get it back.

    He got me with the old 'left my wallet at home'.

    Wow, really? :D (That's not really that serious though to be fair, and if it was my mate, i wouldn't give it a second thought, let alone wait for it to be paid back for two years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭wush06


    Was it Bill and Ted?

    No it was Martin and Paddy I think


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    jimmy180sx wrote: »
    I live four doors down from my local bank branch i would have got near €130 exchange. He probably went in a did the exact thing i wanted

    The exchange rate is 1:18. With fees you would get 1:10 at most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate



    Wow, really? :D (That's not really that serious though to be fair, and if it was my mate, i wouldn't give it a second thought, let alone wait for it to be paid back for two years.

    Get the impression of a lot of the stinginess in this thread is by the people who feel aggrieved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    My father used a savings account my grandparents had set up for me at birth to renovate one of his properties.

    When my parents split up, I had to take him to court for payments for me and my brothers (my mum didn't have the funds to pay a lawyer, and since I had no income being still at school the state provided money to pay for my legal representation).

    That was some 20 years ago now.
    My brother rented an apartment from him together with his wife for a while. They did up the place to frankly stunning proportions, put in new floors, new kitchen, bathroom, the lot.

    They paid rent to him the whole time they were living there, and asked him for help with their deposit once they decided to buy a house.
    He didn't give them a penny. My mum and I had to chip in again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭sophia25


    Ah my Dad well and truly screwed me. In 2000 he needed a home. I hadn't seen him in years after he ran off with my Mam's sister (another story). I put up full deposit, went on joint mortgage with him (and title) and paid €200 a month towards the mortgage for the first year. In 2008 we agreed he would pay me back with a secured loan from the lender. At this stage (before property crash) there was about 200k equity and I was entitled legally to half. I said I only wanted 15k, he was getting a loan of 25k. He went mad, offered me 13.2k . He had worked out everything I paid and the calculated it a 1% interest, as that is what I would have got from bank!! He hadn't included the fact I paid legal fees, put an alarm in house and part furnished it!! In the end I took the money and got off the title rather than facing a legal battle and thankfully I did, after tha property crash. Needless to say, we don't exchange christmas cards anymore.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    joe stodge wrote: »
    Not me, but my grandmother by her son. She sold him a plot of land on the side of her house for €80 grand for him to build a house on....
    HondaSami wrote: »
    she sold a site to her own son and she did not sell it cheap either, don't know who is worse here the mother or the son or is it a case of two of a kind.
    How do you know? It may have been worth €250,000,000...
    Obviously came with Planning permission. She was hardly going to give it away. She has other Children unless the OP is referring to his Father.
    A very odd way to do business - she was obviously very trusting of him.

    It was her Son?


    Pyramid Scheme...

    Not me, but my Sister and two of her Friends, sucked in by another "Friend" who had been in it for 7 weeks at the time. They were out less than 2 weeks later. The friend received "X" amount of €1,000's.. Refused to give any of it back, saying she "deserved" it.
    Then when the Gardaí got involved and it was in the papers, she still refused. Rumour has it she paid back 2 people before she fled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Allyall wrote: »
    How do you know? It may have been worth €250,000,000...
    Obviously came with Planning permission. She was hardly going to give it away. She has other Children unless the OP is referring to his Father.

    That makes all the difference?

    Thankfully I would never dream of charging my kids for something that is their's anyway.
    Parents should be happy to have a family member living beside them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    HondaSami wrote: »
    That makes all the difference?

    Thankfully I would never dream of charging my kids for something that is their's anyway.
    Parents should be happy to have a family member living beside them.

    Planning Permission means the land is worth a lot more.
    It could be all she has, if it was, then the Son has taken the inheritance she had planned on dividing amongst all the children..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    HondaSami wrote: »

    That makes all the difference?

    Thankfully I would never dream of charging my kids for something that is their's anyway.
    Parents should be happy to have a family member living beside them.

    You consider your stuff to be "owned" by your offspring? I don't even see my parents house as an inheritance - there are 3 of us, for one, and they may have to sell for another. Or they may will it somewhere else.

    It isn't mine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 352 ✭✭Bertie Woot


    It happened to me about 6 years ago when I loaned a guy who I thought was one of my best friends €300

    When I asked for it back he denied all knowledge.

    People can be very deceptive. I honestly don't think I've ever had a true, proper friend in my life. Humans are sly, devious, controlling, manipulative. In a word: disingenuous. Get yourself a dog. They are nice people, and you'll have a real friend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Allyall wrote: »
    Planning Permission means the land is worth a lot more.
    It could be all she has, if it was, then the Son has taken the inheritance she had planned on dividing amongst all the children..

    What is the inheritance, the money her son is paying her? this sum is divided? who will look after her if she needs looking after?
    You consider your stuff to be "owned" by your offspring? I don't even see my parents house as an inheritance - there are 3 of us, for one, and they may have to sell for another. Or they may will it somewhere else.

    It isn't mine.

    My parents house is of no interest to me because I have my own home, same with my brothers and sisters, it goes to the youngest as he is single living at home.

    My home goes to my kids equally, they know this. If they want to sell it and share the money it's up to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Allyall wrote: »
    How do you know? It may have been worth €250,000,000...
    Obviously came with Planning permission. She was hardly going to give it away. She has other Children unless the OP is referring to his Father.


    It was her Son?


    id d.

    Family can be the worst to do "business" with. There's often an assumption of trust and this trust is often not reciprocated.
    It's much better to do things the legal way, especially when it comes to property- clear wills, independent legal advice etc. in fact, these precautionary measures can take the personalisation out of potential conflict situations and disputes later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    An aunt of my missus died and left her everything in the will.

    Unfortunately, my wife's big brother was named as executor and she never saw a cent of her inheritance, estimated to be in the tens of thousands. This all happened in England, and at the time it was impossible for my wife to actually go over there and see him. He wouldn't even send her a copy of the will.

    It was around the time that he bought himself a brand new camper-van, and was spotted in a local bank by an old friend of my wife, who heard him asking to see someone for investment advice on what to do with some money he'd just come into.

    The thieving bastard.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭xLexie


    I would be so pissed if my dad charged me 80k for a site! Luckily he wouldn't do that, and there's one there for me whenever I want it. But if he did charge me, and I agreed to give 80k for it, I would never dream of stiffing him. That's a scummy thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    People can be very deceptive. I honestly don't think I've ever had a true, proper friend in my life. Humans are sly, devious, controlling, manipulative. In a word: disingenuous. Get yourself a dog. They are nice people, and you'll have a real friend.

    Well so long as you're happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭joe stodge


    HondaSami wrote: »

    she sold a site to her own son and she did not sell it cheap either, don't know who is worse here the mother or the son or is it a case of two of a kind.
    It was at the height of the boom and she had been offered €120 grand for it before hand. He gave her a card for a building society that has no machines in the local area and for a 70 year old widower who doesn't drive, she couldn't access a machine to check the balance.


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