snobbery

steddyeddy

Who's the biggest snob you've ever encountered? I met one recently in a pub. He seemed friendly at first. He mentioned he lived in Terenure to which I replied "Oh cool my mam is from Kimmage originally, just around the corner". He came back with "There's a big difference between the calibre of people from Kimnage and from Terenure mate". Now I know this is AH an I'm probrably contracually obliged to say I came up with a bit witty AH response but I didn't. I was a bit taken aback by a stranger randomly insulting my mam and by exrension granny ect. The thing is do Terenure wasn't always rich in fact there was several tenements there until the last few decades. The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

Whats the biggest snob you have ever met and how do you deal with them?

aaronjumper

I am too good for this thread.

Turtyturd

Louis Copeland.....who the f*ck does he think he is with his gold teeth?

steddyeddy

aaronjumper wrote: »

I am too good for this thread.

Would you care to step outside? (what I should have said to the snob in my opening post :-P)

holy guacamole

I'm constantly encountering snobby people but for the most part I just feel pity for them. Folk like that are generally so concerned with social status and letting everyone know how successful they are that they don't realise just how utterly miserable they are.

Who gives a sh*t about where you're from, or where you live, or what car you drive, or how much you earn, the only people that are bothered with that stuff are shallow, pretentious oafs who measure popularity in €€€€.

Be proud of your background whatever it is and in the process congratulate yourself for not trying to hide your roots and be ashamed of where you're from like so many others in this country do.

aaronjumper

aaronjumper wrote: »

I am too good for this thread.

I'm considerably richer than yow.

aaronjumper

steddyeddy wrote: »

Would you care to step outside? (what I should have said to the snob in my opening post :-P)

Jayzus tis freezin can you not kick the snobbery out of me in here next to the radiators and heaters?!

Biggest snob I ever met was back in school.
"Oh your friends with him?"
"Yeah I am"
"Well I cant be friends with you so"
"Right. . . whatever"

No problems between them or anything just didnt like him and so refused to be friends with any of his friends. Snobby weirdo.

Pherekydes

Tits who think St Brigid's NS is in Castleknock. It's in Blanchardstown!

P.S. So are Roselawn and Delwood.

Nick Riviera

Turtyturd wrote: »

Louis Copeland.....who the f*ck does he think he is with his gold teeth?

A millionaire businessman.

orestes

steddyeddy wrote: »

Who's the biggest snob you've ever encountered? I met one recently in a pub. He seemed friendly at first. He mentioned he lived in Terenure to which I replied "Oh cool my mam is from Kimmage originally, just around the corner". He came back with "There's a big difference between the calibre of people from Kimnage and from Terenure mate". Now I know this is AH an I'm probrably contracually obliged to say I came up with a bit witty AH response but I didn't. I was a bit taken aback by a stranger randomly insulting my mam and by exrension granny ect. The thing is do Terenure wasn't always rich in fact there was several tenements there until the last few decades. The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

Whats the biggest snob you have ever met and how do you deal with them?

Bloody snob.

BillyMitchel

It's everywhere in Ireland, anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

Met a chick before on holidays and at the very start of the conversation she asked where I was from and when I told her she just got up and walked off. Stuck up slag.

Worked out well though, me and my friend four balled her mate who was much better looking!

steddyeddy

orestes wrote: »

Bloody snob.

You have a point actually! I meant it to illustrate that you cant judge people because of where they're from.

MaxSteele

My mate dropped out of engineering in Trinity recently because and I quote ...

"They're all posh, D4 twats from Killiney, Blackrock etc etc. They're all so gay. The way the course is taught is gay. The lecturers are boring, negative and gay. Trinity as a college is just f*cking gay." :pac:

DonkeyStyle \o/

Wow, Terenure! How many butlers did he have?!

fussyonion

Terenure's not posh! Bahahaha

juan.kerr

Nick Riviera wrote: »

A millionaire businessman.

Millionaire, you say? Come back to me when it's millionaire with a B. Until then, please use the tradesmans entrance around the side.

steddyeddy

No I didn't imply they're rich now because they're from Kimmage. The man I met implied there's a certain calibre of people from Kimmage. I was using examples to say that where you're from does not indicate anything about you other than where you grew up!

crfcaio

I thought "snobbery" was a combination between "snob" and "robbery"

The King of Moo

A quite expensive estate was built near the fairly ordinary, now mainly middle-class estate where I lived as a kiddywink. Rather than put the area where the estates are, which is not very well-known, on their addresses, many of the people in the more expensive estate put the name of a much more fashionable village about ten kilometres away. Someone has even put that on Google Maps, and put photos of the village in the middle of the estate on, despite the distance between the two being clear.

One person there in particular would shoo any animal that came close to her house, until learning that one cat belonged to a minor and awful celebrity who lived there for a time. This cat was then welcomed with open arms (perhaps literally), and she'd brag about it visiting the house.

One time I missed a flight to Dublin because of a train breakdown. I was talking to a guy in the queue while waiting for the replacement bus. He was giving out about the situation, until he asked how much it would cost to rebook later flights. When I told him it'd be €100, he, in mock relief, proclaimed "Oh great, sure that's nothing." I've never come across such a strained effort to sound blasé.

Probably the worst snob I've seen, but not in person, was a certain young girl whose father works for a major professional services company.

Actually, no, the worst snobs I've ever come across are those b*stard aliens with black on the left half of their face and white on the right. They think they're so much better than the aliens with white on the left half of their face and black on the right.

shoos

I don't get it nowadays so much, but in my teens I used to get reverse-snobbery all the time.

I went to a pretty fancy school and lived in a nice enough area, while my two best friends came from fairly crap schools and lived in... well, not even particularly poor areas, pretty standard. But I met loads of people through them and the second I opened my mouth they'd go "where the f*ck are you from/what school do you go to??". And when I told them they'd go on little rants about how people like me are so stuck up, so full of ourselves, how easy I have things, and how I live in such a bubble, I might have a good education but I've no understanding of what it's REALLY like in the world.

Thought I was the one that was supposed to be a snob?

frozenfrozen

My daddy is the highest earning partner in KPMG

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

The thing is do Terenure wasn't always rich in fact there was several tenements there until the last few decades. The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

So he said "calibre", you've interpreted it as meaning money, found a deeper meaning of profession, and he's the snob?

I don't think the calibre of a person is anything to do with their money, where they live OR their job.

admiralofthefleet

steddyeddy wrote: »

Who's the biggest snob you've ever encountered? I met one recently in a pub. He seemed friendly at first. He mentioned he lived in Terenure to which I replied "Oh cool my mam is from Kimmage originally, just around the corner". He came back with "There's a big difference between the calibre of people from Kimnage and from Terenure mate". Now I know this is AH an I'm probrably contracually obliged to say I came up with a bit witty AH response but I didn't. I was a bit taken aback by a stranger randomly insulting my mam and by exrension granny ect. The thing is do Terenure wasn't always rich in fact there was several tenements there until the last few decades. The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

Whats the biggest snob you have ever met and how do you deal with them?

terenure road west is kimmage and is fairly snobby whereas terenure road north around enda's is ordinary. that fella you were talking to is a tosser

steddyeddy

true-or-false wrote: »

So he said "calibre", you've interpreted it as meaning money, found a deeper meaning of profession, and he's the snob?

I don't think the calibre of a person is anything to do with their money, where they live OR their job.

Neither did I but he did.

jaffacakesyum

Is there a word for a snob who looks down on people for living in supposedly 'posh' areas? Like a reverse snob? See them in Ireland all the time too. You can't win. You meet people who are so obsessed with money and status that they won't associate with you because you are seen as a pleb in their eyes :rolleyes: And then you have people (some of them scumbags, some of them just ordinary people) who will look down on and slag the sh1t out of you if you went to a 'posh' school or live in a 'rich' area, and when asked where they're from they go on about how dangerous Ballymun is and ya'd get stabbed if you walked in my area. As if 1) That's true and 2) That's something to be proud of.

Don't understand it. Couldn't care less about where someones from or how much they earn or what their social status is. If you're sound, we'll get on well.

mikemac1

Was he once of these OP?

The Association of Residents of Terenure (ART), representing around 300 households in the northwest of Terenure village, has written to the Constituency Commission

“The current constituency boundary has left us at a great disadvantage because the make-up of the public representatives who have been elected to our constituency do not, in general, seem to feel they represent the ‘middle class’ suburb of Terenure, and instead draw their support from, and give their attention to, the western part of the constituency,” their letter states.

Dublin South Central currently includes areas like Crumlin, Dolphin’s Barn, Ballyfermot and Inchicore while Dublin South East includes Rathmines, Ranelagh, Rathgar and Donnybrook.

“We don’t like the situation the way it is,” he said adding that while Terenure had associations with Rathmines, “if you go the other way there isn’t anything we’re assocated with, in any way.”

http://www.thejournal.ie/residents-claim-tds-do-not-represent-middle-class-in-dublin-suburb-325310-Jan2012/

I rent in Ballyer, now I know the good people of The Association of Residents of Terenure want nothing to do with us

dj jarvis

biggest snob or as i like to call him , a total **** bag would be more accurate
was a friends boss ,
we went to his big gaff in wicklow , it looked like laura ashley puked his decor up

so sitting haveing a chat he turns round to me and said , " dressed as you are you are limiting who will talk to you are you not "
now i was dressed in leather , bike boots and had my club patch on , what else was i going to wear driving my bike :eek:

i responded with " my dress weeds out the tossers , if someone thinks a certain way becasue of my leathers then great , i dont want to know them anyway "

we arrived back to his house a week later to forcibly take his doberman dog from him , he was mistreating the poor dog , it had cancer and was blind in one eye and he was doing nothing about it - he knew better than to stop us , we would have stamped all over the dick head

on a happy note , we got the dog seen to , lost a eye , but lived another 2 years with people who treated it right

this guy was a waste of skin

shoos

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Is there a word for a snob who looks down on people for living in supposedly 'posh' areas? Like a reverse snob? See them in Ireland all the time too. You can't win. You meet people who are so obsessed with money and status that they won't associate with you because you are seen as a pleb in their eyes :rolleyes: And then you have people (some of them scumbags, some of them just ordinary people) who will look down on and slag the sh1t out of you if you went to a 'posh' school or live in a 'rich' area, and when asked where they're from they go on about how dangerous Ballymun is and ya'd get stabbed if you walked in my area. As if 1) That's true and 2) That's something to be proud of.

Don't understand it. Couldn't care less about where someones from or how much they earn or what their social status is. If you're sound, we'll get on well.

Yeah, I think poeple forget that the Irish are just as guilty of reverse-snobbery as traditional snobbery.
You're not deadly cause you've been to America, but you're also not deadly because you've not been to America. Get over yourselves.

mikemac1

I listen to bands that don't even exist yet :cool:

suicide_circus

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Wow, Terenure! How many butlers did he have?!

Terenure is a lower middle class cesspit

crockholm

I remember building a wall in bushes lane when the neighbour came over to have a look,saw all the granite stones on the ground and remarked "you've the life of riley,it's like playing with lego all day long"

Kind of felt like Ted from the fast show after that

admiralofthefleet

suicide_circus wrote: »

Terenure is a lower middle class cesspit

bar the rathfarnham road (which should really be called terenure road south) its mostly working, especially down at enda's as ive already mentioned

mikemac1

The King of Moo wrote: »

A quite expensive estate was built near the fairly ordinary, now mainly middle-class estate where I lived as a kiddywink. Rather than put the area where the estates are, which is not very well-known, on their addresses, many of the people in the more expensive estate put the name of a much more fashionable village about ten kilometres away. Someone has even put that on Google Maps, and put photos of the village in the middle of the estate on, despite the distance between the two being clear..

Spiddal in Galway?

The King of Moo

While I don't agree with reverse snobbery, I think it's much more understandable than classic snobbery. When you see people with more money and nicer things than you, it's a fairly normal reaction to get annoyed about that, especially as in some cases there is an element of luck involved in it one person being in a better situation than another.
It's not rational but people don't tend to be rational.

We also tend to generalise, so if one meets some snobby people who speak with a posh accent, one might jump to the conclusion that all people with a plummy accent are snobs, just as one might jump to the conclusion that all people who wear tracksuits and speak with a certain accent are thugs, because one such person shouted at you from their car once.

You also have to factor in the perception that people in elevated social positions can take a little snobbery against them, as otherwise their life is seen as pretty good. It's like satire: it's funny to mock the powerful, not so funny to mock those without power or status as it comes across as bullying.

I think reverse snobbery is particularly understandable among children, as they've no control over what they're born into, so the disparity seems even more unfair.

So while I don't agree with reverse snobbery, I can understand where it comes from, particularly as when I was young we weren't flush with money. I'm not now either, but that's beside the point.

I do find original recipe snobbery hard to understand though, try as I might to do so. I just don't see how someone would think they're better than another person because they have more money than them. This is particularly true when the money hasn't been earned, as in the case of the children of wealthy parents. I suppose in many cases it's insecurity: a person seeking validation through material signifiers of status, or trying to distance themselves from those in a lower social position, due to seeing some possible similarities between themselves and these people.

Of course, I can't ignore the fact that some people are just c*nts whatever they're born into.

The King of Moo

mikemac1 wrote: »

Spiddal in Galway?

Ooh, close. I won't say exactly where to avoid identification, but I am talking about Galway. I'm thinking of the north-east of the city though.

slavetothegrind

the worst snobbery is when you meet someone for the first time and their first words to you are " So what do you do then?"

Because your job or profession or lack thereof define you absolutely as a person in such a bigoted persons eyes.

You can but be glad you are not like them and end the conversation politely and walk away.

shoos

slavetothegrind wrote: »

the worst snobbery is when you meet someone for the first time and their first words to you are " So what do you do then?"

Because your job or profession or lack thereof define you absolutely as a person in such a bigoted persons eyes.

You can but be glad you are not like them and end the conversation politely and walk away.

Are you sure you're not mistaking a very general conversation starter for snobbery? That's a very typical "get to know the person" kind of question that I've asked and have been asked, and never felt there's any bigoted judgement going on behind it

EDIT: just wanted to include that I'm unemployed atm, so it's not like I relish the chance to boast when people ask me.

BMJD

steddyeddy wrote: »

Who's the biggest snob you've ever encountered? I met one recently in a pub. He seemed friendly at first. He mentioned he lived in Terenure to which I replied "Oh cool my mam is from Kimmage originally, just around the corner". He came back with "There's a big difference between the calibre of people from Kimnage and from Terenure mate". Now I know this is AH an I'm probrably contracually obliged to say I came up with a bit witty AH response but I didn't.

lolz, he called yer ma a knackbag and you did nothing :pac:

Ava_e

It's these snobs I truly feel sorry for, they strive for validation of their existence from society, they have no extraordinary talent, IQ, or personality. Just average. Empty shells.

They will only accept themselves if they can feel superior to others in society. And the only way they can do that is through having what they perceve as status symbols. "I'm from this "posh area", my car reg is a 13, I holiday 4 times a year".

The people who they want to emulate, the very very wealthy, drive 10 year old Volos, have dog hair all over the furniture and out of date mobile phones, they are content and not concerned what others think. It's something these striving self-loathing snobs can never buy.

April O Neill

steddyeddy wrote: »

The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

Is this not also snobbery?

slavetothegrind

shoos wrote: »

Are you sure you're not mistaking a very general conversation starter for snobbery? That's a very typical "get to know the person" kind of question that I've asked and have been asked, and never felt there's any bigoted judgement going on behind it

EDIT: just wanted to include that I'm unemployed atm, so it's not like I relish the chance to boast when people ask me.

there's a certain tone to the type i am thinking of, very distinctive and judgemental

I suppose i generalised a bit....

Sorry

Latchy

steddyeddy wrote: »

''there's a big difference difference between the calibre of people from Kimnage and from Terenure mate".

He couldn't be for real but either way, you should have replied with '' yes...the difference is you lot in Terenure still use newspaper to wipe your arse with ''

The other thing is my mams side of the family are all barristers, economists historians and probrably a lot better off than he was.

Snobbery !

fathead82

Biggest snob I ever met was in a night club,met her at the bar & listened to her talking ****e for an hour about going to college in Trinity,thought I was getting places with her when she asked me what I did,I told her I work in a factory. She says " a factory? as in,on a production line?,good for you." pats me on the arm & walks away.

shoos

slavetothegrind wrote: »

there's a certain tone to the type i am thinking of, very distinctive and judgemental

I suppose i generalised a bit....

Sorry

Think I've got the voice in my head - "So, what do you do then" as if no matter what the answer, they probably won't be impressed?

But yeah, I wouldn't write people off for asking that question in general. Cause that'd mean you'd write me off, and for all you know we could be soulmates

donegal_man

I used to work alongside a member of the traveler community, who had a successful career as an interior designer and when I happened to mention his name to a friend of my father he replied "he's still a k****er"

dd972

As regards snobbery, there's a social fascism in Ireland about things like the types of faces people have, they way they speak, dress, where they hail from and their perceived level of education or sophistication.

There is also a crass, vulgar, mean spirited and obnoxious manner of expressing it quite frequently without even thinking of having a conversation with the target of the abuse to ascertain what sort of person they are. Judgement without investigation reigns supreme.

The words 'knacker' and 'tinker' are bandied around to describe anyone perceived to be of a lower social caste, even those perceived to be ordinary working class.

This is even evident in Central Dublin which gives away the small time and parochial nature of the city compared to Central London, Brussels or Berlin.

somefeen

Its like the Blackrock/Mahon thing in Cork.
Vast majority of Blackrock is old corporation houses, vast majority of Mahon is new corporation houses.
Only reason Blackrock is considered more affluent is that after a couple of generations the people who lived in the Corpo houses eventually bought them and their kids grew up and got decent jobs and inherited the house.
Same thing will happen to Mahon.

By all accounts Blackrock was an absolute ****ehole back in the 70's. Anyone who thinks they're better for living there is a knob anyway.

steddyeddy

mikemac1 wrote: »

Was he once of these OP?









http://www.thejournal.ie/residents-claim-tds-do-not-represent-middle-class-in-dublin-suburb-325310-Jan2012/

I rent in Ballyer, now I know the good people of The Association of Residents of Terenure want nothing to do with us

Jesus that's scary. Do these people have genetic reason for their stupidity?

steddyeddy

BMJD wrote: »

lolz, he called yer ma a knackbag and you did nothing :pac:

Yep as I said I regret it. I would have had a happier memory if I had smashed a bottle of carlsberg in the low life's face shouting "stitch that jimmy"!!!

token101

steddyeddy wrote: »

Jesus that's scary. Do these people have genetic reason for their stupidity?

Seems a bit stupid to be dividing one area over two constituencies and they probably don't want to be represented by Aengus Ó Snodaigh and I don't blame them. Imagine the amount of litter he'd stick through your letterbox with 50,000 worth of ink. Suppose on the upside you'd save on jacks' roll in these harsh economic times.

ejmaztec

steddyeddy wrote: »

Would you care to step outside? (what I should have said to the snob in my opening post :-P)

He would probably have agreed to that so that he could issue instructions to his ex-navy seal chauffeur who was waiting outside for him. He would have then sat back on his shooting stick eating Beluga caviar whilst watching said chauffeur paralyse you from the neck down.:(