hw 77 air rifle

charlie10

bought this today any one here use one or have any experience of one. bought it to bang a few greys and mags and the occasional visitor to the trap and snares:D

http://www.countrywaygunshop.co.uk/catalog/weihrauch-hw77-air-rifle-p-804.html

slug gun

Yes, I got one about 15 years ago, and it was amazing! It looked plainer then than they do now, stock is different and underlever lock up seems different too.

I used to shoot field target with it, with an old Tasco 3-9 x 40 Silver Antler scope! It was very accurate and heavy enough to damped any recoil. Again, as I have mentioned here before, Weihrauchs out of the box are great, but get them tuned, and they are stunning to shoot! If funds allowed, send it to Sandwell Field Sports or V-mach first before importing here, and have them give it a basic tune. What you then have will amaze you and cycle silky smooth;)

Would buy a '77 in the morning if it weren't for the cert, and i'm nearly maxed out with air rifles as it is:D


I plink, therefor I am...

charlie10

thanks lad will take ur advice and might get it tuned up;)

lb1981

Im looking to get a .22 pre charged one myself for roost shooting and taking care of what i have trapped and barn shooting, seen one in action ,what a yoke

charlie10

was looking at a gamo one with air canister but cant be refilled and at 15 euro a can i said this one will do

lb1981

charlie10 wrote: »

was looking at a gamo one with air canister but cant be refilled and at 15 euro a can i said this one will do

Ah **** that ,you would be out the door buying them canisters.

Im looking at this http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/air-rifles/bsa-super-10-22.html

beretta686s

I used to have one years ago have a he 95 now tis the most fun u can have with ur pants on as they say😉

loveta

lb1981 wrote: »

Im looking to get a .22 pre charged one myself for roost shooting and taking care of what i have trapped and barn shooting, seen one in action ,what a yoke

Bought a PCP "HW100 .22" in jan 2012 "my first air rifle" for shooting crows mags ect ect around the yard and further. Seriously accurate and fun to use/ only down size is its heavy.If your going to be doing inside barn/shed shooting ya might want to go low ft.lb or you could have lots of holes in the roof:eek:

lb1981

loveta wrote: »

Bought a PCP "HW100 .22" in jan 2012 "my first air rifle" for shooting crows mags ect ect around the yard and further. Seriously accurate and fun to use/ only down size is its heavy.If your going to be doing inside barn/shed shooting ya might want to go low ft.lb or you could have lots of holes in the roof:eek:

only if you miss;) ah no that one is fully adjustable and can be set low or high , well from what i read on the net it can be , im still researching it really

loveta

lb1981 wrote: »

only if you miss;) ah no that one is fully adjustable and can be set low or high , well from what i read on the net it can be , im still researching it really

Actually no i shot birds for a guy at a meal store at about 25 m and the pellet went through them and left a right dint on the sheet behind suppose to be at 28ft lb but never chrony it though.

loveta

lb1981 wrote: »

Ah **** that ,you would be out the door buying them canisters.

Im looking at this http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-showroom/air-rifles/bsa-super-10-22.html

A guy i know has one of them "it is the MKII" the first ones were ment to give a lot of trouble. Have shot his really nice to shoot seems a lot lighter than my hw just found the two stage trigger a little rough compared to the hw one

lb1981

loveta wrote: »

A guy i know has one of them "it is the MKII" the first ones were ment to give a lot of trouble. Have shot his really nice to shoot seems a lot lighter than my hw just found the two stage trigger a little rough compared to the hw one

Yeah read the first ones gave a bit of grief alright , i still have a bit of looking around to do and getting lads advice like this helps

loveta

If you want i can give you a guys number where i bought mine when you decide on you "weapon of choice" he seems to on the money price wise.Oh make sure and buy a quailty scope read my post on "how often to zero a scope" i bought what i was told was well up to the job "AGS" NOT SO!!!! Got a bit of a tick n off for the preceived way i was treating the gun :-0

rsole1

loveta wrote: »

If you want i can give you a guys number where i bought mine when you decide on you "weapon of choice" he seems to on the money price wise.Oh make sure and buy a quailty scope read my post on "how often to zero a scope" i bought what i was told was well up to the job "AGS" NOT SO!!!! Got a bit of a tick n off for the preceived way i was treating the gun :-0

"AGS" NOT SO!!!! Got a bit of a tick n off for the preceived way i was treating the gun :-0

Can you rephrase or explain for us thickos what that sentence means. Cheers.

extremetaz

@ Charlie: I wouldn't go tuning it until you know whether or not anything actually needs tuning.

Having said that, the Trigger on them can be an issue as it has some creep in it and AFAIK it's not adjustable.

If it's in good nick though, it'll drop the pellet exactly where the rifle is pointed so as long as you do your bit it won't let you down.

Beyond that I don't know how much experience you have with springers but just in case (and I hope I'm not making a feeble attempt at sucking eggs here), here's a few basics:

- You can't sit them in direct contact with a rest - you have to cradle the front of the rifle in your hand. You can sit your hand on a rest alright, but you need that intuitive "shock absorber" there in order to guide the recoil and prevent the shot from getting thrown off as unlike any other kind of rifle, the recoil will start to effect your hold long before the pellet actually starts to move. Similarly, bipods are a waste of time with springers and will do more harm than good to your groups.

- In general, springers perform best with medium to lightweight pellets (<15gr in .22, <10gr in .177) as the heavier ones induce more recoil and have a longer residency in the barrel, both of which leads to bigger groups.

- Try to avoid dryfiring them, if you need to decock, you can hold the lever back and release the piston slowly once you pull the trigger.

- Pellet choice matters!! Stick to the better brands. H&N Barracuda Match, JSB Exact, RWS Field series, Crossmann Premier, etc... As a rule, go for "match" grade pellets wherever available. Avoid pointed pellets entirely, and if you're buying hollow points then go for the best quality you can find (Crossmann do a HP in the Premier series which is pretty damned awesome!).

- Finally, these rifles are far more accurate than they're given credit for. In the right hands with the right pellet and no wind, they will manage ~2" at 100yrds, so at typical vermin ranges of <50yrds, they'll happily stuff the pellet wherever you tell them too. However - they do take a bit of practice before you'll get that from them. I've had a HW90 group 5 .177 pellets into one hole at 25yrds though, and it's got the same trigger as the '77 but doesn't have the benefit of the fixed barrel - so if it can do that, then yours can do better.

Have fun - they're a crackin' wee rifle.

loveta

rsole1 wrote: »

"AGS" NOT SO!!!! Got a bit of a tick n off for the preceived way i was treating the gun :-0

Can you rephrase or explain for us thickos what that sentence means. Cheers.

Sorry my bad typing again:eek:
A G S, is the name of the scope, i was told that it was a good brand and up to the job because it was going on a pcp, but not so because it needs to be re zero ed quite a bit

slug gun

Lots of good info there from extremetaz, and of course, you don't have to tune your '77, it'll serve you for years as it is.

But, personally, every tuned Weihrauch that I have had the pleasure of shooting has been a totally different animal from that straight from the factory.

No worries on the trigger front, the '77 of course comes with the world famous "Rekord" trigger unit....a precision adjustable match trigger. Widely recognised as one of the best about in spring airgunning!

extremetaz

good news on the trigger - the one in the '90 is pretty ...agricultural. Would be the only thing I'd fault about the '90.

Sounds like the '77 has the same trigger as the '100's then - if so then it's a gem!

slug gun

extremetaz wrote: »

good news on the trigger - the one in the '90 is pretty ...agricultural. Would be the only thing I'd fault about the '90.

Weihrauch had to design a new trigger mechanism for the HW90, as it had Theobens gas ram instead of spring. They called it the Elite, and deemed it necessary as the Rekord "was incompatible with the gas ram system".

Being an airgun anorak....that's from a review of the HW90 in Airgun World magazine from Jan 1990.....:D Yup, still have them all collected in binders:eek::D

extremetaz

slug gun wrote: »

that's from a review of the HW90 in Airgun World magazine from Jan 1990.....:D Yup, still have them all collected in binders:eek::D

lol - nice!