Being given forged banknotes.

cantdecide

Should shops/ bars etc that have those infra-red note checker things allow you to check the notes they give you as change for authenticity before you accept them?

FatherLen

yep.

Dravokivich

you could always bring a marker with you that you can test it with.

Duck Soup

Portable UV note checker. €12.95 plus VAT.

http://www.safescan.com/ie/productDetail/51/248/uv-counterfeit-detectors/safescan-40h

mitosis

Buy your own checker, cheapskate

cantdecide

Duck Soup wrote: »

Portable UV note checker. €12.95 plus VAT.

http://www.safescan.com/ie/productDetail/51/248/uv-counterfeit-detectors/safescan-40h

Class. I'd feel a bit nerdy bringing one of those out to the pub though.

michellie

If shops did their jobs right and checked them when they received them you wouldnt have that problem.

racso1975

Have you ever got a forged note?

Plazaman

A lot of places have the UV light/pen check when they accept notes, usually only €50's they check. It'd hardly be practical to check all/the same notes being given out as change (unless there was some voodoo happening inside the till changing legit notes to funny money).

p4ddyh1

I went to pay for food in eddie rockets once and they guy on the till handed me back a 5er i`d given him saying it was fake. I reckon i got it as change in the pub earlier that night.

smash

Duck Soup wrote: »

Portable UV note checker. €12.95 plus VAT.

http://www.safescan.com/ie/productDetail/51/248/uv-counterfeit-detectors/safescan-40h

In fairness, these would be great to have in a taxi. I've heard of people waking up to realise they were given forged notes as change.

Duck Soup

cantdecide wrote: »

Class. I'd feel a bit nerdy bringing one of those out to the pub though.

True dat, but a good few of the market stalls at farmers markets have them already. I work on a stall in one of them sometimes and forgers see the markets as a good place to dump dodgy notes as they feel the stalls are less likely to have equipment to check notes than shops.

Dodgy notes are not a regular thing, it comes and goes in waves, but they're not uncommon either. I've seen everything from a forged €50 note to a forged €5 pass through the markets.

68 lost souls

When I was in Barcelona almost every shop I was in scanned every not they were given and it prevented forgeries. It was standard practice in all the shops and so people didn't feel out of joint or guilty for checking the notes. Far too often people here are afraid to check a not in case they offend some one.

danniemcq

you don't need pens or lights all you need is your thumbnail

At the top of the front of the note, slightly to the right of center is a small rectangle.

Run your thumbnail over the top of it and you should feel it ridged and its really noticable (your nail will make it go tic tic tic!)

If you don't feel the rougness or the ridges take a closer look more than likely you have been given a dud note.

The nice thing about this is you can test it easily, not cause a scene and not look like a prat!

My name is URL

danniemcq wrote: »

you don't need pens or lights all you need is your thumbnail

At the top of the front of the note, slightly to the right of center is a small rectangle.

Run your thumbnail over the top of it and you should feel it ridged and its really noticable (your nail will make it go tic tic tic!)

If you don't feel the rougness or the ridges take a closer look more than likely you have been given a dud note.

The nice thing about this is you can test it easily, not cause a scene and not look like a prat!

Some of the better counterfeits also have that feature

Duck Soup

danniemcq wrote: »

you don't need pens or lights all you need is your thumbnail

At the top of the front of the note, slightly to the right of center is a small rectangle.

Run your thumbnail over the top of it and you should feel it ridged and its really noticable (your nail will make it go tic tic tic!)

If you don't feel the rougness or the ridges take a closer look more than likely you have been given a dud note.

The nice thing about this is you can test it easily, not cause a scene and not look like a prat!

Just about everyone does this in the farmers markets if handed a €50 note, unless it's from a regular customer. The trick is to do it behind the lid of the cash box when you're putting it in. If it requires a further quick UV inspection, usually you'd have the UV pen underneath the table - just tell them you're getting change.

Some customers are switched on enough to know when you're doing the scratch test in plain view and can get ársey about it.

68 lost souls

68 lost souls wrote: »

Far too often people here are afraid to check a not in case they offend some one.

Yeah I'm pretty careful in work now when checking notes, a few times I've been accused of accusing people (?!) just because I checked their note.

Capt'n Midnight

Duck Soup wrote: »

Portable UV note checker. €12.95 plus VAT.

http://www.safescan.com/ie/productDetail/51/248/uv-counterfeit-detectors/safescan-40h

unless it says it's fluorescent or LED it's probably a Woods bulb. So very very inefficient and will eat batteries.

Just use a blue led from the pound shop to see the hairs in notes

Guy:Incognito

michellie wrote: »

If shops did their jobs right and checked them when they received them you wouldnt have that problem.

If people werent scumbags the shops wouldnt need to check them.

xLexie

racso1975 wrote: »

Have you ever got a forged note?

Yes, one Saturday night, broke a fifty in a stupid pub went to club to buy a drink, barman wouldn't take the 20 euro I'd got as change as it wasn't real.

Drunk and furious I barged back into the pub and they insisted it was real, just a bit "tatty". Still wouldnt swap the 20 I had for the 20 they had though.

TonyStark

danniemcq wrote: »

you don't need pens or lights all you need is your thumbnail

At the top of the front of the note, slightly to the right of center is a small rectangle.

Run your thumbnail over the top of it and you should feel it ridged and its really noticable (your nail will make it go tic tic tic!)

If you don't feel the rougness or the ridges take a closer look more than likely you have been given a dud note.

The nice thing about this is you can test it easily, not cause a scene and not look like a prat!

Another way is to rub the note against some white paper. Some of the ink should come off. I was told once that the ink on a bank note "never dries". Most genuine notes I find exhibit this behaviour. Don't know how reliable it is.

michellie

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If people werent scumbags the shops wouldnt need to check them.

Your dead right there !

Pottler

I have a foolproof way of checking for forgeries, I use a lighter - the real ones burn with a greeny blue flame, the duds just burn with a yellow sooty flame. No feckin way am I getting caught out by these scammers.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If people werent scumbags the shops wouldnt need to check them.

^^^Put that little quote there in a plaque put up behind the till.