75% equine DNA found in meat products that had been sent from Poland

ITS_A_BADGER

a shocking 75% horse Dna found in meat products now holy shite



http://www.independent.ie/national-news/75pc-horse-dna-found-in-beef-product-following-new-tests-3376947.html

mackg

Tests found 75pc equine DNA in a batch of meat product that had been sent from Poland to Rangeland Foods in Castleblayney, Co Monaghan.

Those sneaky Polish. The swans were just to distract us while they went after the horses. Well played.

ITS_A_BADGER

Shergars Bum :eek:

xLexie

Burgers for people so hungry they could eat a horse

sfwcork

Why shouldnt we eat horse..other countries eat it and alot worse

frozenfrozen

Please don't reuse horse puns in this thread. I've had en hoof of them.



No really though, stop. Please.

Banjo String

Mr Ed will not be happy.:mad:

Richard tea

I once knew a horse. He died.:(

UCDVet

I don't care that there was horse meat in it....What I want to know is why is beef so expensive in Ireland?

When I first got here I was told how much better it was and how they grazed in open fields of green and pooped Irish rainbows and didn't use hormones or steroids or anything else...and that the beef was tightly regulated and tracked from farm to plate.

And everyone told me it tasted much better for it.

I'll happily eat the unregulated mystery meat (that we've all been eating) but why can't I get it at a reasonable price?

DylanII

Can we not just ban polish meat?

JTMan

Supermacs source "ALL their burgers from Rangeland", the plant at centre of 75% scare.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2013/0117/world/fast-food-chief-says-shop-customers-aposmisledapos-219817.html

Never going to SuperMacs again.

Banjo String

sfwcork wrote: »

Why shouldnt we eat horse..other countries eat it and alot worse

Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie......

Micky Dolenz

Not to be a neigh sayer or anything, but I'm not sure I can handle all the horse puns again.

Banjo String

UCDVet wrote: »

I don't care that there was horse meat in it....What I want to know is why is beef so expensive in Ireland?

I believe you might just have answered your own question here sir.

UCDVet wrote: »

When I first got here I was told how much better it was and how they grazed in open fields of green and pooped Irish rainbows and didn't use hormones or steroids or anything else...and that the beef was tightly regulated and tracked from farm to plate.

Ever notice how free range eggs/chickens cost more than the caged/battery type?

LiamMc

What's a Beef Seasoned Hamburger?
http://www.rangelandfoods.com/products.html

MadYaker

F*ck off with this sh!te seriously. I'm sick of hearing about horse burgers on the radio and seeing it on the front page of every news paper for the last 2 weeks. Go to a reputable butchers and buy real burgers not the sh!te ones for 99c in tesco bargain aisle and you won't encounter any horse DNA.

The thread title doesn't even make sense! 75% of horse DNA, does that mean 75% of a horses genome was found in a burger? Or that 75% of all horse DNA was found in a burger? :mad:

goat2

burgers that give you the gallops

Lapin

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

a shocking 75% of horse Dna found in beef burgers now. Holy shite



http://www.independent.ie/national-news/75pc-horse-dna-found-in-beef-product-following-new-tests-3376947.html

Oh fuk, here we go again with the crap jokes.

c_man

Is there such an over supply of horse that they're sneaking it into everything to get rid of it?

Celly Smunt

DylanII wrote: »

Can we not just ban polish meat?

We need more polish meat! sexiest women on the streets these days.

ChunkyLover_53

A Pony goes to the Vet and says

"Doc, I think I ate some of them Beef Burgers that had Horse meat in them and now I've got a terrible sore throat"

The vet examines him & says, "Everything seems fine with you no need to worry"

And the Pony rasps..."Are you sure Doc?....because I'm a little horse"

...:D?...:D??..???.....:(


...I'll get me coat...

The Th!ng

Am I the only one who is looking forward to them finding not just human DNA, but actual human meat in the burgers?

Joe10000

Does horse farming go on on a massive scale in Poland ?

admiralofthefleet

Fungus wrote: »

Supermacs source "ALL their burgers from Rangeland", the plant at centre of 75% scare.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2013/0117/world/fast-food-chief-says-shop-customers-aposmisledapos-219817.html

i dont mind fast food but supermacs is so bad i wouldnt even class it as that

hfallada

UCDVet wrote: »

I don't care that there was horse meat in it....What I want to know is why is beef so expensive in Ireland?

When I first got here I was told how much better it was and how they grazed in open fields of green and pooped Irish rainbows and didn't use hormones or steroids or anything else...and that the beef was tightly regulated and tracked from farm to plate.

And everyone told me it tasted much better for it.

I'll happily eat the unregulated mystery meat (that we've all been eating) but why can't I get it at a reasonable price?

Because Irish beef goes to the highest bidder. Ireland is one of the largest exports of beef in the world. We produce something like enough for 40 million people but there is only 4.5 million in Ireland.

The factories will sell beef to ever pays the highest price whether it be Germany, France or Ireland. But Irish beef is so good compared to some of it in contiential Europe. I spent weeks in Germany dying to have a decent burger and didn't find one

bluewhitehoops

As long I'm not eating human I not too bother what my burgers are made of as long it taste nice and fill me up

Celly Smunt

hfallada wrote: »

The factories will sell beef to ever pays the highest price whether it be Germany, France or Ireland. But Irish beef is so good compared to some of it in contiential Europe. I spent weeks in Germany dying to have a decent burger and didn't find one

Must've been the taste of horse that you missed in Germany.

karl tyrrell

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

a shocking 75% of horse Dna found in beef burgers now holy shite



http://www.independent.ie/national-news/75pc-horse-dna-found-in-beef-product-following-new-tests-3376947.html

Thats fassssssssssssssssssst food

earlyevening

That company, Rangeland are huge suppliers to the nation's chippers.

Any of you had a quarter pounder lately?

Celly Smunt

bluewhitehoops wrote: »

As long I'm not eating human I not too bother what my burgers are made of as long it taste nice and fill me up

What about semen? it's not human as such..

Jacob T

Jayziz, between the 80% processed chicken "hot dogs", and 75% horsemeat "beef burgers". That's disgusting, I like knowing what I'm eating. Mad cow disease, avian flu, swine flu, horse burgers, foot and mouth disease, etc - why do we bother eating meat? You can sustain a very healthy and balanced vegetarian diet.

Celly Smunt

Jacob T wrote: »

Jayziz, between the 80% processed chicken "hot dogs", and 75% horsemeat "beef burgers". That's disgusting, I like knowing what I'm eating. Mad cow disease, avian flu, swine flu, horse burgers, foot and mouth disease, etc - why do we bother eating meat? You can sustain a very healthy and balanced vegetarian diet.

Get out.

bluewhitehoops

pmcmahon wrote: »

What about semen? it's not human as such..

mmm i've not quite thought this through, As long I'm not eating human and semen I not too bother what my burgers are made of as long it taste nice and fill me up

1ZRed

What I'm wondering is where did they get all the horses?

Do they park up their transit vans at very high jumps at horse races and hope for a stumble?

Aquarius34

MadYaker wrote: »

F*ck off with this sh!te seriously. I'm sick of hearing about horse burgers on the radio and seeing it on the front page of every news paper for the last 2 weeks. Go to a reputable butchers and buy real burgers not the sh!te ones for 99c in tesco bargain aisle and you won't encounter any horse DNA.

The thread title doesn't even make sense! 75% of horse DNA, does that mean 75% of a horses genome was found in a burger? Or that 75% of all horse DNA was found in a burger? :mad:

Well I don't pay attention to the media so it doesn't upset me like it upsets you, But you do have to ask if a beef burger is 75 percent horse meat, why are they calling it a beef burger. The question has to be asked and this carry on has to be dealt with.

If someone wants a beef burger it should be a beef burger. This planet is effin joke to be brutally honest.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Seeiously if you go to Tescos and buy 12 burgers for 99c or whatever that frozen crap costs your lucky to be getting horse meat.
Just like in all walks of life you get what you pay for.

Celly Smunt

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Well I don't pay attention to the media so it doesn't upset me like it upsets you, But you do have to ask if a beef burger is 75 percent horse meat, why are they calling it a beef burger. The question has to be asked and this carry on has to be dealt with.

If someone wants a beef burger it should be a beef burger. This planet is effin joke to be brutally honest. I am seriously fed up with this lunacy with regards to everything these days.

emigrate to mars then.

karl tyrrell

Who supplies mcdonalds

ITS_A_BADGER

MadYaker wrote: »

F*ck off with this sh!te seriously. I'm sick of hearing about horse burgers on the radio and seeing it on the front page of every news paper for the last 2 weeks. Go to a reputable butchers and buy real burgers not the sh!te ones for 99c in tesco bargain aisle and you won't encounter any horse DNA.

The thread title doesn't even make sense! 75% of horse DNA, does that mean 75% of a horses genome was found in a burger? Or that 75% of all horse DNA was found in a burger? :mad:

this company has a contract with burger king and supermacs so its not just in frozen cheap burgers, you could have had one in Burger King or supermacs

Supermacs say so here: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fast-food-chief-says-shop-customers-misled-219817.html
Burger king is in the OP

Celly Smunt

karl tyrrell wrote: »

Who supplies mcdonalds

Ronald,obviously.

1ZRed

Jacob T wrote: »

Jayziz, between the 80% processed chicken "hot dogs", and 75% horsemeat "beef burgers". That's disgusting, I like knowing what I'm eating. Mad cow disease, avian flu, swine flu, horse burgers, foot and mouth disease, etc - why do we bother eating meat? You can sustain a very healthy and balanced vegetarian diet.

We are omnivores. It is the healthiest diet to eat a balance of both meat and plant foods.

You can source your meats very well and get high quality meat at that. These are processed foods, so it's not even a close reflection on the standard of all meat. I hate that pro-vegetarian mentality.

Celly Smunt

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

this company has a contract with supermacs so its not just in frozen cheap burgers, you could have had one in supermacs

Horse meat to be fair,would probably be the best you'd get from supermacs.

Canis Lupus

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Please don't reuse horse puns in this thread. I've had en hoof of them.



No really though, stop. Please.

Don't you mean whoah? :P

earlyevening

karl tyrrell wrote: »

Who supplies mcdonalds

Not sure. Not on their website.

Its not Rangeland or Kepak who are the main suppliers of burgers to fast food places.

Kepak not implicated in horse meat affair. (yet)

Squeaky the Squirrel

UCDVet wrote: »

I don't care that there was horse meat in it....What I want to know is why is beef so expensive in Ireland?

When I first got here I was told how much better it was and how they grazed in open fields of green and pooped Irish rainbows and didn't use hormones or steroids or anything else...and that the beef was tightly regulated and tracked from farm to plate.

And everyone told me it tasted much better for it.

I'll happily eat the unregulated mystery meat (that we've all been eating) but why can't I get it at a reasonable price?

You remind me of an auld fella I know and when foot and mouth was in Ireland. He thought it was great the way these disinfectant mats were popping up all over the place and everyone was doing their bit dipping their feet to help stop the spread...until a few weeks in the price of Beef shot through the roof here as it was all being exported.

Ended up he couldn't afford abit himself for the Sunday dinner.

He swore if it ever came back he wouldn't be wetting the socks next time.:D


In all seriousness, this horse thing is no joke, these horses have been linked to an anti inflammatory drug that causes Cancer in humans, listening to this it sounds like it's the done thing to ship them abroad to have them slaughtered just incase the random checks may pick them up.

This is not being treated with the seriousness it deserves.

B.A._Baracus

So we get beef from poland?

so much for "100% Irish beef" :rolleyes:

karl tyrrell

karl tyrrell wrote: »

Who supplies mcdonalds

I know when I was in the industry 20 years ago, beef was sourced in Ireland, and to a good spec and then shipped in special bulk pallets to the UK.

admiralofthefleet

karl tyrrell wrote: »

Who supplies mcdonalds

smurfit cartons make the burgers

goat2

i think there is a case for us the customer,
we are supposed to be told on the boxes what ingredients are used in the burgers,

false advertising,
wrong ingredients,

they were called beef burgers,
and they are not beefburgers,

Jacob T

1ZRed wrote: »

We are omnivores. It is the healthiest diet to eat a balance of both meat and plant foods.

You can source your meats very well and get high quality meat at that. These are processed foods, so it's not even a close reflection on the standard of all meat. I hate that pro-vegetarian mentality.

I hate the pro-"must eat meat to be healthy mentality" to be honest. The section of your post quoted in bold is quite an adventurous "fact" - given the once every year or 2 scandals/outbreaks/etc regarding meat.

The short answer is a resounding yes; it has been conclusively proven through extensive worldwide studies by independent, highly respected international health advisory boards that a vegetarian diet is significantly healthier than one which includes meat and animal products. This is true for all ages, infant to adult, and includes pregnant and lactating women.

Studies have found a direct statistical correlation between decreased meat intake and increased health benefits. The chances of developing chronic diseases including high blood pressure, diabetes, coronary heart disease, obesity, kidney failure, osteoporosis and cancer, is markedly decreased among vegetarians and vegans by as much as forty percent. Along with this favorable news, chances for longevity might increase by some twenty percent. Owing to these benefits, health insurance companies commonly offer discount rates to vegetarians and vegans.

For decades, a common public misconception was that a vegetarian diet lacked protein. The meat industry began a series of promotional commercials with slogans such as “meat is real food,” implying a vegetarian diet was somehow lacking. As more information came to light about the benefits of being vegetarian, the public misconception changed. It then became, vegetarians can get enough protein, but it isn’t easy, which is equally untrue. Not only is it easy to eat a balanced diet, the idea that it requires special effort whether vegetarian or vegan is highly overstated.

The British Medical Association (BMA) was first to shed light on the many benefits of a vegetarian diet in a 1986 report. Based on a large volume of research, it concluded that vegetarians not only tend to have lower cholesterol, but also significantly reduced instances of coronary heart disease, obesity, high blood pressure, certain types of cancers, gall stones and large intestine disorders.

The highly respected World Health Organization (WHO) offered their own findings on vegetarian and vegan diets in a 1991 report. WHO not only confirmed the results of the BMA and the China study, but also found that meat and dairy-rich diets promote other diseases as well, including osteoporosis or low bone density, and kidney failure. WHO went so far as to predict the cancer crisis the world now faces, based on the meat-rich dietary trends of Western nations. The report candidly faulted governments for public Dietary Guidelines that promote meat and dairy as necessary foods, urging more vegetarian-based policies where animal products are relegated to optional status.

About the same time as the previous studies were being conducted, The Oxford study was underway. Gathering data over a period that spanned an excess of 13 years and involved over 11,000 people, it not only confirmed lower rates of heart disease, diabetes, cancer and other diseases among vegetarians, but also found a 20% decrease in premature mortality rates. Simply put, if you eat a vegetarian or vegan diet, you have a 20% better chance of living longer than if you eat meat, according to the study.

So there you are, I would trust the WHO, BMA and Oxford university (and several other) studies over your deluded ramblings - no offence.

earlyevening

karl tyrrell wrote: »

Who supplies mcdonalds

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/site/farming-Feeding-the-McDonald-s-giant-with-1.1-billion-beef-burgers-per-annumHigh-standards-from-biggest--15052.html

A mutlinational;, OSI, based in Scunthorpe, UK using Irish beef apparantly.