Man awarded $40,000 after DNA proves his children arent his

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Have you ever wondered if you were raising another man’s child?
We sure hope not! This sounds like something you’d hear on a soap opera.
Unfortunately, that was the nagging question on Richard Rodwell’s mind soon after his marriage to his wife Helen fell apart.


As their marriage began deteriorating, Helen would disappear for several days at a time without letting her family know where she was. And when she would return and he would ask where she had been, she would say, “It has nothing to do with you.” This woman would never even leave a note or message letting her husband or children in on her whereabouts.


Come to find out, the daughter and son he had raised into their teenage years were not even his. The poor man finally caught on to her deception when rumors started floating around that his daughter Laura, now 20, was someone else’s. And this is after the fact that Helen was granted custody of the children and he was paying child support every month for four years, which totaled around $25,000.


“People said that Laura didn’t look like me and that Helen had been seeing a teacher who lived next door on the caravan park,” explained Rodwell. “I confronted Helen on the phone but she insisted that I was Laura’s father. Finally, I said I wanted DNA testing.”


Geneticists have been seeing rising cases of deception, infidelity and adultery among couples, which has recently made DNA testing very popular. For a man that once thought he had it all (happily married, two healthy children, a house and a good paying job), he was so terribly wrong!
The DNA testing was done with a swab of Laura’s mouth and when the results came back, Mr. Rodwell was floored. “When I saw the letter stating that I was not Laura’s father I just broke down. I phoned Helen and we had an argument. She didn’t even say sorry,” he said in distress.
In fact, the DNA tests revealed that the children had two separate fathers!


“I still have no idea who Adam’s father is,” he said. “For nearly 17 years I have cared for Laura as my daughter and for Adam for over 14 years and now it’s all gone. It’s so sad.”


Following the results, the children cut off all contact with him. He claims his ex-wife turned them against him. “I would have been happy to have a close relationship with them as a stepfather but Helen wouldn’t allow this and told them to keep away from me,” Rodwell explains.


Recently, he was awarded nearly $40,000 in damages after suing his ex-wife for deceit. The court treated his case similar to bereavement, awarding an amount like the one you would receive if your child died in an accident. In this particular case, the judge even went further than that due to the level of deceit, as well as taking into account the fact that Mr. Rodwell’s second wife is too old to provide him with children. He also won a court order, which forced his wife to move out of their marital home.
When speaking for the first time since the controversial case, Rodwell said, “It’s like a bereavement because I have lost the children that I believed were mine. I treated them both as if they were my own. I was there at their births, went to their nativity plays and helped them with school homework.”


It’s hard to imagine such a thing even happening, but if it wasn’t for the whispering campaign that was going around, he may have never known the truth.

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So what does everyone think of this?

I think women who knowingly deceive a man into raising a child should be made pay compensation if they get caught. It is effectively fraud and they should be punished as such.

If a woman knew she could be sued if she was caught it might make her think twice about deceiving someone into thinking they're the child's father when they're not.

Boombastic

I think this is a great idea. More people should take cases like this.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

If Jeremy Kyle gets a cut he would be loaded!

wolfpawnat

Deceitful cows like this are why my partner felt he had to ask for one on our son. The dates matched and all, but you can hardly blame a man these days.

I know a woman who still claims a man is the father of her child even after 2 DNA tests said otherwise. She has been with more than one guy and the child is the image of her ex, but she still thinks she can lie about it and bad mouth the "father" who did two bloody tests.

She and the likes of her need to be taken to court and made pay for actively lying. If there is a chance it is not a man's, tell him, get the DNA and if it isn't and he chooses to stay (not sure there are many men like that out there, but who knows), then that's his choice, but he should know!!!!

Banjo String

I think it would be an unimaginable uncertainty what to do in that situation.

I've a couple of kids. Raised them with love and care to the best of my abilities, ofttimes gone without so that they can do with.

If I suddenly found out one or all of them weren't mine (biological that is) I can't imagine what I'd do or react in which way.

At the end of the day, they would have been reared with my morals and values, so I definitely don't think I'd love them any less.

Scary thought though.

antodeco

I reckon there should be a BoardsDeal on DNA testing.

Ms2011

I would say there are many many men unknowingly raising children who aren't theirs. I feel it is the ultimate betrayal a woman can inflict on a man.
That said if a DNA test isn't preformed while a child is still too young to understand I feel it serves no purpose.
If you are at a child's birth, care for them when they are sick, watch their first step, present on their first day of school etc. etc. are you any less that child's parent? I personally don't think so & a DNA test would cause more harm than good.

B.A._Baracus

This woman is the definition of a "Slut" (as well as alot of other things!)

Fox_In_Socks

I shall be demanding a DNA test from any woman who I manage to impregnate in the future.

Before we have sex, I shall demand a health check as well as regards STD's etc.

Surely, that will be OK?

Wibbs

Nearly happened to a chap I know. Crisis pregnancy cropped up. Bit of a problem though. He hadn't been completely honest at that stage in the relationship(very early on), by not informing his partner that he had had the snip years previously(had two kids already with an ex wife). He reckoned maybe, you never know so he got checked. Firing blanks. Still he doubted. Like I say you never know. In the end DNA test proved him still firing blanks. Interesting convo came outa that. "Paternity test" is a well known phrase, while maternity test is a bit "eh wut?". Personally? If it happened to me? I'd crucify the culprit through any legal avenue available.

That said, while it happens, it isn't nearly as common as some of the more paranoid blokes reckon, nor it isn't as daft or unlikely as the more naive may think.

Senna

Following the results, the children cut off all contact with him. He claims his ex-wife turned them against him.

I'd rather keep the contact with the kids I'd raised, than put them through the humiliation and lose them, probably forever. $40k is not worth it.

Fox_In_Socks

Wibbs wrote: »

That said, while it happens, it isn't nearly as common as some of the more paranoid blokes reckon, nor it isn't as daft or unlikely as the more naive may think.

I'm going to tie you down a figure. That ^ is just outlandish!:pac:

dark crystal

Perhaps it might be a good idea for hospitals to take mandatory DNA tests at birth. They could say it's for medical records in case of the child ever needing a transplant or screening for hereditary illnesses or something, which would actually make sense. It might save a lot of heartache for some men in the future.

I couldn't imagine lying about something so important, either to my child or their father. It's a despicable thing to do.

wolfpawnat

Ms2011 wrote: »

I would say there are many many men unknowingly raising children who aren't theirs. I feel it is the ultimate betrayal a woman can inflict on a man.
That said if a DNA test isn't preformed while a child is still too young to understand I feel it serves no purpose.
If you are at a child's birth, care for them when they are sick, watch their first step, present on their first day of school etc. etc. are you any less that child's parent? I personally don't think so & a DNA test would cause more harm than good.

True in one respect; as others have said, a man who has been there for it all would probably still love the child, but it would not be in anyway his fault if he decided to leave. SHE deceived him, a man who has invested in children for years to find out he is not the father, that would cripple the poor man. The victims would be the children and the man, if he left, you could not blame him. Regardless of the child's age, be they 10 weeks or 10 years, HE has a right.

marble

Happened to me.a solicitor told me that at best if I brought her to court I might get my maintenance back dated only 4yrs.she could say that all she could afford is €5 a week and I'd have to make do with it.

wolfpawnat

dark crystal wrote: »

Perhaps it might be a good idea for hospitals to take mandatory DNA tests at birth.

That would cripple the state, we have one of the highest birthrates in Euro (17 per thousand) and they are at least 250-300 a test. (1000 for the court approved ones). I agree with the theory, but it would cost too much.

Ms2011

wolfpawnat wrote: »

True in one respect; as others have said, a man who has been there for it all would probably still love the child, but it would not be in anyway his fault if he decided to leave. SHE deceived him, a man who has invested in children for years to find out he is not the father, that would cripple the poor man. The victims would be the children and the man, if he left, you could not blame him. Regardless of the child's age, be they 10 weeks or 10 years, HE has a right.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right I'm just questioning the point of knowing if a man has already accepted a child as his own & has raised it as such.
Sometimes ignorance is bliss!

racso1975

marble wrote: »

Happened to me.a solicitor told me that at best if I brought her to court I might get my maintenance back dated only 4yrs.she could say that all she could afford is €5 a week and I'd have to make do with it.

wow. The law really is an ass!!! You have any contact with the kid at all? must of been really tough on both of ye.( the child that is)

twowheelsonly

Slightly different situation but...

Once came across a guy that was locked up for non-payment of maintenance/contempt of court for a child that he swore wasn't his. The initial problem was that he tried to defend it himself and didn't use a solicitor in court.

He was married when this 'Lady' sent him a maintenance demand for her 7/8 year old child. He remembered having a one night stand with her and could remember the exact night - a Sat night of an August weekend as he was starting his first ever job on the following Tuesday. By his calculations she would have been 11 months pregnant for the child to be his! The Judge however ruled against him but he still refused to pay thinking that it would all 'go away' somehow.

Eventually he ended up in Jail, for the first time in his life. The Gardai that lodged him believed him as did the Prison Officers that were looking after him. He was afraid that he couldn't afford a solicitor but the Officers arranged for him to have a chat with a visiting solicitor. Eventually he had to arrange to have a private DNA test (Blackrock Clinic I think but I could be wrong) which he had to pay big money for but which proved that he wasn't the father. He spent a couple of weeks in Jail because of all this. I was in court when the case was eventually discharged and she just laughed. No punishment whatsoever for her and everyone could tell that she was taking the piss. She could just walk away whilst his life was turned upside down and he had to prove (at great expense) that he wasn't the father with no onus on her to prove that he was. Turned out she had 4 kids and 3 other fellas paying her maintenance as well.

Opened my eyes!!!

wolfpawnat

Ms2011 wrote: »

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right I'm just questioning the point of knowing if a man has already accepted a child as his own & has raised it as such.
Sometimes ignorance is bliss!

In the case of the woman yes, she gets away with it, but what happens if/when it gets out and a man has invested years of his time, effort, love and to a lesser extent money on a child and he realises she has taken him for an absolute fool. I'd say that is even more gutting to be honest.

My sister is 22 and in college, my mother is still demanding maintenance from my father for her. It was revealed 2 years ago she may not be my fathers daughter, he has become an alcoholic (not dramatising, an actual one) and is severely depressed. 20 years of caring for a little girl only to hear she may not be his. My sister is not legally obliged to give her DNA to the court without a subpoena, and she is refusing, so he is in a terrible position of not knowing.

Username567

Isn't the estimation about 10% percent of people have fathers other than the one they think is theirs.

marble

racso1975 wrote: »

wow. The law really is an ass!!! You have any contact with the kid at all? must of been really tough on both of ye.( the child that is)

Yeah was tough on my whole family.to make matters worse she walked around head held high,brazen as ****,knowing I couldn't do a thing about it.

Boombastic

Username567 wrote: »

Isn't the estimation about 10% percent of people have fathers other than the one they think is theirs.

This is in America

Today, 30% of DNA paternity tests, nearly one in three, prove that the man involved is not the father of the child in question. Currently more than 300,000 such tests are done each year. Since it is unlikely that these paternity tests were done without an underlying reason, almost certainly involving payment of child support, there are thus over 90,000 men who have been falsely accused of paternity each year.





This case in the OP is not the first time this has happened. Some other cases mentioned on Wiki

Ms2011

wolfpawnat wrote: »

In the case of the woman yes, she gets away with it, but what happens if/when it gets out and a man has invested years of his time, effort, love and to a lesser extent money on a child and he realises she has taken him for an absolute fool. I'd say that is even more gutting to be honest.

My sister is 22 and in college, my mother is still demanding maintenance from my father for her. It was revealed 2 years ago she may not be my fathers daughter, he has become an alcoholic (not dramatising, an actual one) and is severely depressed. 20 years of caring for a little girl only to hear she may not be his. My sister is not legally obliged to give her DNA to the court without a subpoena, and she is refusing, so he is in a terrible position of not knowing.

I guess I just don't see why after a number of years it should matter.
I'm female so I'm fortunate in that I know my son is my son. If 20 years down the line the hospital came back & said there'd been a mistake & my son had been switched I wouldn't care.
DNA doesn't make him my son, the bond we have does imo.

wolfpawnat

Ms2011 wrote: »

I guess I just don't see why after a number of years it should matter.
I'm female so I'm fortunate in that I know my son is my son. If 20 years down the line the hospital came back & said there'd been a mistake & my son had been switched I wouldn't care.
DNA doesn't make him my son, the bond we have does imo.

As a mother too, I know my children are mine. Well my son was taken into Neo-nates so when his dad did the DNA, to get the best results they ask for the mother's too and I gave mine and we got the results we expected.

Apparently my father knew for years, but it was said to him more and more as time went on, by the supposed other man too, but he kept supporting my sister too, it is only know that he is severely ill with other health issues too that he is taking stock and is asking himself these questions.

Maybe it's because I just know too many of these women that I am so cynical, but I cannot help my hackles going up when I think of what these bítches are doing. And then you read of them getting away with it/being found out and no repercussions and I actually get upset. I need to calm a little, but I really just find myself getting irate by it all

Capt'n Midnight

wolfpawnat wrote: »

The dates matched and all, but you can hardly blame a man these days.

The costs are low and will only get lower in future so it's a no brainer.

On one side there is the "you should trust her" argument
on the other is the risk of spending most of the rest of your life devoting your resources to further someone else's genes.

Soon entire genome sequencing will be cheaper than a year of health insurance and you only need to do it once to benefit from future discoveries in genetics.

In the EU the insurance companies can't load certain things but I could imagine a situation in the US where insurance companies might have problems paying out for genetic diseases where the child inherited them elsewhere.

clairefontaine

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The costs are low and will only get lower in future so it's a no brainer.

On one side there is the "you should trust her" argument
on the other is the risk of spending most of the rest of your life devoting your resources to further someone else's genes.

Soon entire genome sequencing will be cheaper than a year of health insurance and you only need to do it once to benefit from future discoveries in genetics.

In the EU the insurance companies can't load certain things but I could imagine a situation in the US where insurance companies might have problems paying out for genetic diseases where the child inherited them elsewhere.

This has been one of the objections to manditory genetic testing in the US. Some, maybe many, US states already do a lot of genetic testing on newborn babies, to document diseases that are running in their genetic codes. Hospitals keep this information but some activists object on the basis that health care insurers, [and the state too] can collate this information and radically alter what they charge you or even deny you coverage. Because this testing is standard, it just gets included in general maternity/obstetrics costs.

DNA testing would only be an issue for single parents, since legally you are responsible for the children born within a marriage and paternity is presumed. But paternity is not exclusively biological either when the parents are married. In many states [Ireland too?] that you are married makes you the legal guardian, regardless of biological connections. If you are a man who had an affair with a married woman and a child was born, good luck with that case!

wolfpawnat

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

The costs are low and will only get lower in future so it's a no brainer.

On one side there is the "you should trust her" argument
on the other is the risk of spending most of the rest of your life devoting your resources to further someone else's genes.

Soon entire genome sequencing will be cheaper than a year of health insurance and you only need to do it once to benefit from future discoveries in genetics.

In the EU the insurance companies can't load certain things but I could imagine a situation in the US where insurance companies might have problems paying out for genetic diseases where the child inherited them elsewhere.

My partner paid either 250 or 300 for his "peace of mind" test. Costly enough since we were students, but it has meant he has always known his son is his. When people made comments on our sons "odd nose" (a right little flat boxers one) we could laugh it off and he never had to worry about was our sons his, that's something you cannot put a price on. I was slightly insulted he could not trust me, but as I said, I could not blame him. And as I said, he could not, not that he would not trust me. We have seen too much deceit.

It should be mandatory, but the state would have to fund it from somewhere and at the moment we are well beyond stretched financially as a country. As well as recognising and treating medical issues, it would serve as a data base for legal proceedings were children are involved too, especially concerning maintenance.

Capt'n Midnight

clairefontaine wrote: »

DNA testing would only be an issue for single parents, since legally you are responsible for the children born within a marriage and paternity is presumed. But paternity is not exclusively biological either when the parents are married. In many states [Ireland too?] that you are married makes you the legal guardian, regardless of biological connections. If you are a man who had an affair with a married woman and a child was born, good luck with that case!

The whole point about DNA testing is that paternity no longer needs to be assumed.

If the law isn't changed to reflect this someone is going to challenge it sooner or later.

PucaMama

i would be highly insulted and very angry if my boyfriend asked for a dna test because he needed "peace of mind" after hearing these stories. by the same logic can we test the temperment of all men because some men are violent? ridiculus. why not trust your partner.

wolfpawnat

PucaMama wrote: »

i would be highly insulted and very angry if my boyfriend asked for a dna test because he needed "peace of mind" after hearing these stories. by the same logic can we test the temperment of all men because some men are violent? ridiculus. why not trust your partner.

Because too many men have trusted and been made absolute fools of. I rather my 15 minutes of being insulted and have a man fully invested in the rearing of his child than to see him holding back and know that he may be wondering. The stories here confirm it, there are too many being made laughing stocks of. Women can be malicious and self centred creatures, you can blame men for needing to know.

There is a difference between a man being violent and a woman lying, and luckily the latter is easily verified with a painless test.

PucaMama

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Because too many men have trusted and been made absolute fools of. I rather my 15 minutes of being insulted and have a man fully invested in the rearing of his child than to see him holding back and know that he may be wondering. The stories here confirm it, there are too many being made laughing stocks of. Women can be malicious and self centred creatures, you can blame men for needing to know.

There is a difference between a man being violent and a woman lying, and luckily the latter is easily verified with a painless test.

rubbish. i wont be made pay for the behaviour of another woman. you cant treat all women like that because a few have done it. it would be accusing me of sleeping around and cheating,and i have done neither of those.

Capt'n Midnight

PucaMama wrote: »

why not trust your partner.

It's a risk thing.

While the probability is very low the impact could be life changing.


Imagine going through life with a nagging doubt.


Imagine if there was a mix up in a fertility clinic for a test tube baby and they implanted an embryo left behind by his ex. Now imagine if he arranged that deliberately and you're raising that bitch's child.

carlmango11

PucaMama wrote: »

i would be highly insulted and very angry if my boyfriend asked for a dna test because he needed "peace of mind" after hearing these stories. by the same logic can we test the temperment of all men because some men are violent? ridiculus. why not trust your partner.

Because men are going to devote their lives to this child. Infidelity is commonplace. Call me selfish but if I had doubts I'd want a test.

wolfpawnat

PucaMama wrote: »

rubbish. i wont be made pay for the behaviour of another woman. you cant treat all women like that because a few have done it. it would be accusing me of sleeping around and cheating,and i have done neither of those.

But you don't pay, he does. Besides, he can do it without your consent and knowledge all he needs is 1 minute alone with the child to swab its cheek. Welcome to 2013, trust only gets you so far when there are children involved. Any woman who has nothing to hide has no need to worry. My partner was not accusing me of cheating, he was ensuring he was investing his emotions in a child that was biologically his, and yes, there is a difference.

PucaMama

wolfpawnat wrote: »

But you don't pay, he does. Besides, he can do it without your consent and knowledge all he needs is 1 minute alone with the child to swab its cheek. Welcome to 2013, trust only gets you so far when there are children involved. Any woman who has nothing to hide has no need to worry. My partner was not accusing me of cheating, he was ensuring he was investing his emotions in a child that was biologically his, and yes, there is a difference.

you would have to cheat to have another mans child so no i see no difference. and when i said pay for it ment through a lack of respect. if someone has so little trust for their partner well what are they doing having a family with them.

Galwayguy35

If it was someone I was in a long term relationship with no I wouldn't ask for a DNA test but if it was just a one nighter then definately I would be looking for a test.

PucaMama

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

If it was someone I was in a long term relationship with no I wouldn't ask for a DNA test but if it was just a one nighter then definately I would be looking for a test.

thats reasonable

wolfpawnat

PucaMama wrote: »

you would have to cheat to have another mans child so no i see no difference. and when i said pay for it ment through a lack of respect. if someone has so little trust for their partner well what are they doing having a family with them.

I did not mean pay as in financially, it is him that has to worry about the parentage of the child not us women. To invest love, time, effort and money in a child, and then all it may be is a comment from a spiteful person to put the doubt there. Something as simple as "He and Jason down the street could be brothers" stupid, but it could plant doubt.

Yes to not be the father means a woman would have had to sleep with another man, but wanting to ensure you are dedicating yourself to a child that is yours is not the same as accusing her of cheating. This is a child we are talking about, it is more harmful in the long run for it if one of the parents is later revealed not to be a parent. We women are lucky, we know we are mothers, men are not given the same guarantee. Unless you are alone together on a deserted island you cannot guarantee the parentage.

DNA testing is not obligatory, if you and your partner decide to have children he does not have to get it. I am merely saying that there are more than enough examples out there for a man to want to know for sure for himself.

Also, so many children are the result of flings and short tern relationships, my son was not planned, neither was the child I am pregnant with now so asking why would you have a family with a person if you had doubts, men don't always get a choice. I was having these children with or without him.

PucaMama

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I did not mean pay as in financially, it is him that has to worry about the parentage of the child not us women. To invest love, time, effort and money in a child, and then all it may be is a comment from a spiteful person to put the doubt there. Something as simple as "He and Jason down the street could be brothers" stupid, but it could plant doubt.

Yes to not be the father means a woman would have had to sleep with another man, but wanting to ensure you are dedicating yourself to a child that is yours is not the same as accusing her of cheating. This is a child we are talking about, it is more harmful in the long run for it if one of the parents is later revealed not to be a parent. We women are lucky, we know we are mothers, men are not given the same guarantee. Unless you are alone together on a deserted island you cannot guarantee the parentage.

DNA testing is not obligatory, if you and your partner decide to have children he does not have to get it. I am merely saying that there are more than enough examples out there for a man to want to know for sure for himself.

Also, so many children are the result of flings and short tern relationships, my son was not planned, neither was the child I am pregnant with now so asking why would you have a family with a person if you had doubts, men don't always get a choice. I was having these children with or without him.

surely you see you cant do one without the other???

Kichote

marble wrote: »

Happened to me.a solicitor told me that at best if I brought her to court I might get my maintenance back dated only 4yrs.she could say that all she could afford is 5 a week and I'd have to make do with it.

Sorry to hear that must be awful to go through and with a justice system that instinctively sides with the woman.

wolfpawnat

Kichote wrote: »

Sorry to hear that must be awful to go through and with a justice system that instinctively sides with the woman.

It is insinuated, yes, but it is not the reason he is doing it. He is not doing it because he thinks you have been cheating, he is doing it so that his mind knows that no matter what anyone may say or imply, the child in the pushchair in front of him is in fact his.

PucaMama

wolfpawnat wrote: »

It is insinuated, yes, but it is not the reason he is doing it. He is not doing it because he thinks you have been cheating, he is doing it so that his mind knows that no matter what anyone may say or imply, the child in the pushchair in front of him is in fact his.

he cant have any other reason than thinking you are cheating.THERE IS NO OTHER WAY HES NOT THE FATHER. its total lack of respect and imo unaceptable from him.

Fox_In_Socks

PucaMama wrote: »

he cant have any other reason than thinking you are cheating.THERE IS NO OTHER WAY HES NOT THE FATHER. its total lack of respect and imo unaceptable from him.

Fluids get everywhere.:pac:

PucaMama

Fox_In_Socks wrote: »

Fluids get everywhere.:pac:

wolfpawnat

PucaMama wrote: »

he cant have any other reason than thinking you are cheating.THERE IS NO OTHER WAY HES NOT THE FATHER. its total lack of respect and imo unaceptable from him.

You are looking at it from a woman's POV only. Yes, it is insulting to insinuate that we are all cheaters, but look at it from the male side. There are men all over Ireland rearing children that are not theirs, so many men and their families putting love and effort into children only for them to find out the child is someone else's. Think of how that must feel. telling your parents the child they thought was their grandchild is someone else's. Telling cousins they won't see the kid anymore and not knowing how to explain why. Then imagine how he feels, seldom do these things remain silent, someone would have known you were not the father, people laughing at you being made a fool of, laughing at your naivety. The love you invested, poof gone! It must be gut wrenching.

This is the world these women have created. You are placing the blame on the man, but in truth, these women are to blame for making men doubt.

April O Neill

Spare a thought for Charlie Chaplin, who was ordered to support until she was 18 a child who it was proven through DNA evidence was not his. That he could well afford it was hardly the point.

April O Neill

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Deceitful cows like this are why my partner felt he had to ask for one on our son.

Wait, what? Sounds like there's a lack of trust there. :-/

PucaMama

wolfpawnat wrote: »

You are looking at it from a woman's POV only. Yes, it is insulting to insinuate that we are all cheaters, but look at it from the male side. There are men all over Ireland rearing children that are not theirs, so many men and their families putting love and effort into children only for them to find out the child is someone else's. Think of how that must feel. telling your parents the child they thought was their grandchild is someone else's. Telling cousins they won't see the kid anymore and not knowing how to explain why. Then imagine how he feels, seldom do these things remain silent, someone would have known you were not the father, people laughing at you being made a fool of, laughing at your naivety. The love you invested, poof gone! It must be gut wrenching.

This is the world these women have created. You are placing the blame on the man, but in truth, these women are to blame for making men doubt.

he can read all those stories he wants, it does not mean a man can point the finger and label me a cheat just because im a woman. ive been hit by a man, but i dont go saying every man will hit me.

fasttalkerchat

April O Neill wrote: »

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wolfpawnat

April O Neill wrote: »

Wait, what? Sounds like there's a lack of trust there. :-/

No, just too many horror stories, my mother did it to my father. His aunt did it to her husband. His friend was caught with a child for 4 years that wasn't his. Another girl we know did it. He is from a small town, when there are so many cases alone in a small area, it puts the fear in men.