Under 12 months old VRT charges

gereen50

Hello all,
Im in the process of buying a Husaberg fe390 thats not 12 months old yet. Will I have to pay more vrt because its still under 12 months. Also what will the inspection involve when I take it to the NCT centre... will all the road trim have to back on the bike as it will be used for off road use only. The reason I want it road legal is I travel some roads to link the green lanes and dont want issues with the local Guards.

Thanks in advance,

Gereen.

ABajaninCork

Think is the vehicle is under six months old, then you also have to pay VAT!! :mad:

Have a look here and here to get an idea of prices and next steps.

colm_c

Also check if it's got less than 6k km's, as if it does VAT is also due.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/faqs/private3.html

For bikes the inspection involves checking the frame number, mileage etc. and only takes a few mins.

gereen50

colm_c wrote: »

Also check if it's got less than 6k km's, as if it does VAT is also due.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/faqs/private3.html

For bikes the inspection involves checking the frame number, mileage etc. and only takes a few mins.

But this is the crazy thing about the bike it will probably never do 6K klm in its life its for Enduro and off-road use with the occasional road section between green lanes....:mad: Where do I go from here ? The NCT are too stupid to try to explain the story to as I have done this before with another similar bike that was 3 years old but only had 900 kms on it..

lomb

Doing a Ferris Bueller in reverse comes to mind tbh...

gereen50

lomb wrote: »

Doing a Ferris Bueller in reverse comes to mind tbh...

Sorry Lomb I never seen that one...:o:o...Is it the way im too old or too young... anyway what did Ferris do ??

dingding

Jack up the back wheel and run the engine for 6K

quietsailor

gereen50 wrote: »

Sorry Lomb I never seen that one...:o:o...Is it the way im too old or too young... anyway what did Ferris do ??

He tried to wind the odometer back on his Dad's ferrari. I think Lomb is saying wind it forwards

gereen50

Its one way of doing it..lol... but its such a stupid setup and its just to grab as much money as they can from the us...sad...

StonedRaider

welcome to Ireland:)

gereen50

colm_c wrote: »

Also check if it's got less than 6k km's, as if it does VAT is also due.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/faqs/private3.html

For bikes the inspection involves checking the frame number, mileage etc. and only takes a few mins.

Colm thye bike im going buying has road trim such as indicators and mirrors which has been removed to prevent them for braking and getting snagged on undergrowth also to make the bike as light as possible...will these have to be put back on the bike for the NCT to pass it ?

CJhaughey

gereen50 wrote: »

Colm thye bike im going buying has road trim such as indicators and mirrors which has been removed to prevent them for braking and getting snagged on undergrowth also to make the bike as light as possible...will these have to be put back on the bike for the NCT to pass it ?

No.
The Logbook it comes with should be sufficient.
The NCT don't test bikes, only cars.

gereen50

Thanks for the input everyone much appreciated...;);););)

I spent most of today trying to contact the Revenue directly and all I got was answering machines...ffs... where dose all the money go from the Vrt because it don't go into answering phones or answering emails...
Well I tried the legit way now ill do it Ferris Bueller style....and fuk the lot of um, as they say. :P:P:P

gereen50

Bike VRT done...

colm_mcm

How'd you get on?

galwaytt

StonedRaider wrote: »

welcome to Ireland:)

It's an EU law actually, not a unique Irish one......

ABajaninCork

What I don't understand is this: Having paid VAT in one EU state, why then do you have to pay VAT again in another if the vehicle is under 6 months old? Import tax I can understand (even if I don't agree with it), but to pay another 23% again is daylight robbery! :mad:

shooter88

gereen50 wrote: »

Hello all,
Im in the process of buying a Husaberg fe390 thats not 12 months old yet. Will I have to pay more vrt because its still under 12 months. Also what will the inspection involve when I take it to the NCT centre... will all the road trim have to back on the bike as it will be used for off road use only. The reason I want it road legal is I travel some roads to link the green lanes and dont want issues with the local Guards.

Thanks in advance,

Gereen.

With no trim/indicators etc the garda will have a field day regardless of it having plates etc..

colm_mcm

ABajaninCork wrote: »

What I don't understand is this: Having paid VAT in one EU state, why then do you have to pay VAT again in another if the vehicle is under 6 months old? Import tax I can understand (even if I don't agree with it), but to pay another 23% again is daylight robbery! :mad:

Can't you claim the original vat bak in that case?

ABajaninCork

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can't you claim the original vat bak in that case?

AFAIK I don't think so, but stand to be corrected. I know that you can't claim back VAT on good bought in the EU in the UK, and I would assume it would be the case here.

CJhaughey

shooter88 wrote: »

With no trim/indicators etc the garda will have a field day regardless of it having plates etc..

Not necessarily, there is no requirement other than having a head and brake/ taillight and number plate lights and a red reflector.
Once the bike is taxed and insured its all good.
No garda is going to try a prosecution if you are compliant.

galwaytt

ABajaninCork wrote: »

What I don't understand is this: Having paid VAT in one EU state, why then do you have to pay VAT again in another if the vehicle is under 6 months old? Import tax I can understand (even if I don't agree with it), but to pay another 23% again is daylight robbery! :mad:

Because an EU regulation came in to stop people buying "new" stuff in one state, parking it for 6 months to make it "used" and then importing it with reduced taxes into another State as a secondhand vehicle. In fact, iirc, one of our own MEP's took a case to court over this many years ago over a Mercedes bought (in Brussels, I assume....). The mileage & age requirement is an attempt to make truly 'used' vehicles exactly that - actually used. Imagine the mayhem possible for vehicles bought in Luxembourg (lowest VAT rate) and, say, Belgium, 60 seconds across the border. It was't just good ol' Oireland they were thinking of !

ABajaninCork wrote: »

AFAIK I don't think so, but stand to be corrected. I know that you can't claim back VAT on good bought in the EU in the UK, and I would assume it would be the case here.

If you have to pay VAT here, and you have already paid VAT elsewhere in the EU, yes you can claim back VAT from the authority at point-of-purchase within the EU. You should only ever end up paying VAT once.

ABajaninCork

galwaytt wrote: »

If you have to pay VAT here, and you have already paid VAT elsewhere in the EU, yes you can claim back VAT from the authority at point-of-purchase within the EU. You should only ever end up paying VAT once.

Do you have a link?

Harcrid

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Do you have a link?

Fom Revenue.ie

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/faqs-vrt.html#section50

I bought a car in the UK and paid VAT there. Now I am asked to pay VAT in Ireland. Why?
VAT is payable in the State on registration where a vehicle is less than 6 months old or has less than 6,000 kilometres on the clock at the time of registration. However, in these circumstances, any VAT paid in the UK may be refunded on application to the appropriate UK VAT authority.

gereen50

Got it sorted....€594 and we were done. It was raining and the girl looking at the bike didnt like getting wet job oxo....