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Just How Healthy Is My Diet

  • 03-02-2013 12:06am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    So as with everybody else in the world, I made a number of new year's resolutions...

    The big one was to cut my weight and clean up my diet, so I was just wondering how healthy is my new diet.

    Breakfasts:
    Oats with Skimmed Milk w/seeds
    Wheetabix with Skimmed Milk w/seeds
    Omelette with cheese & Spinach
    Hard Boiled Eggs
    Rashers

    Lunches:
    Omelette with cheese, Spinach and Mushrooms
    Tuna with salad(Tomatoes, Lettuce, Cumcumber, Sweet Corn)

    Dinners:
    Steak-Once a week
    Fish(Salmon)-Once a week
    Chicken-5 times a week

    all dinners would be loaded with veg

    Veg:
    Broccoli, Carrots, Brussel Sprouts, Cauliflower

    Have potatoes once a week, have rice/pasta maybe twice a week

    Snacks
    Natural Yoghurt(5 Times a week)
    Seeds(Pumpkin, Linseed, Sunflower)
    Nuts(Brazil, Almonds, Peanuts)
    Fruit(Kiwi,Apples,Banana)

    Bread is pretty much cut out, have a bagel on Sundays with Peanut Butter as a kind of treat as I work all day sunday's and its something handy to eat as i walk to work.

    Protein:
    Would have protein shake after training and normally in the evening, depending on how much protein I've eaten during the day.

    Junk:
    I've only have a few days were I've eaten junk...
    Had Subway Once, Eddie Rocketts Once, also been to the cinema a few times and on 1 occasion had a bag of buttons but other times had a protein bar(not the worst but not the best either)
    Sometimes have a protein bar watching tv in the evening(maybe 2 in the 4 weeks)

    Drinks
    Mainly Water and Green Tea, occasionally regular tea and when at the cinema diet soda.


    I know their isn't a lot of variety in there, but maybe with some feedback form you guys I'll be able to make my diet even better


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭doctorwhogirl


    Let me start by saying I'm no expert but I'll give you my thoughts anyway :)

    Breakfasts:
    Oats with Skimmed Milk w/seeds
    Wheetabix with Skimmed Milk w/seeds
    Omelette with cheese & Spinach
    Hard Boiled Eggs
    Rashers



    All looks good to me. I'm slightly suspicious of weetabix but can't remember why...:confused: Something I read on here I think but I'm not 100%.

    Just watch your quantity of cheese because of the cal content, but then if you're bulking you may need those cals.
    Have you tried cottage cheese. Aldi should be paying me for the promotion of their cottage cheeses. They're delish and full of protein. They'd be lovely with that omelette.
    Lunches:
    Omelette with cheese, Spinach and Mushrooms
    Tuna with salad(Tomatoes, Lettuce, Cumcumber, Sweet Corn)

    Again, nothing here that can't be even further enhanced by some cottage cheese :P
    Nah in all seriousness it looks good. Mix it up with the tuna because of the mercury content. I was eating tuna day in, day out, but recently starting roasting off some chicken breasts and having that with my salads instead.

    Any dressing on the salad? Not that it would be a bad thing necessarily! Just curious!
    Dinners:
    Steak-Once a week
    Fish(Salmon)-Once a week
    Chicken-5 times a week

    all dinners would be loaded with veg

    Veg:
    Broccoli, Carrots, Brussel Sprouts, Cauliflower

    Have potatoes once a week, have rice/pasta maybe twice a week

    I'm sure someone will come on here berating potatoes but I can't see the problem with once a week. I would eat them on a good solid workout day though.

    Rice and pasta best if they're wholegrain. Keep you nice and full for longer.
    Protein sources look good.
    Again, it is all about how you're cooking them though!
    Snacks
    Natural Yoghurt(5 Times a week)
    Seeds(Pumpkin, Linseed, Sunflower)
    Nuts(Brazil, Almonds, Peanuts)
    Fruit(Kiwi,Apples,Banana)

    Yum! I'm a big natural yoghurt fan too. Be nice to mix those seeds in it!
    Just watch the quantities of fruit because of their high sugar content.
    Quantities of nuts also, just if you're watching cals.
    Bread is pretty much cut out, have a bagel on Sundays with Peanut Butter as a kind of treat as I work all day sunday's and its something handy to eat as i walk to work.

    Again, it's once a week. Grand in my eyes. I refer back to my earlier thing about weetabix. If you're cutting out bread, weetabix is of similar composition.
    Protein:
    Would have protein shake after training and normally in the evening, depending on how much protein I've eaten during the day.

    I'm no protein shake expert so no comment!
    Junk:
    I've only have a few days were I've eaten junk...
    Had Subway Once, Eddie Rocketts Once, also been to the cinema a few times and on 1 occasion had a bag of buttons but other times had a protein bar(not the worst but not the best either)
    Sometimes have a protein bar watching tv in the evening(maybe 2 in the 4 weeks)
    These all sound quite minimal to me. I incorporate a treat (usually choc bar or drinks out) once a week but it's whatever suits you and fits in to your overall aims diet wise.
    Drinks
    Mainly Water and Green Tea, occasionally regular tea and when at the cinema diet soda.

    Green tea so good for you, I wish I liked it!

    Your diet looks pretty solid to me, but, as I said that's from one perspective!

    I would say to you that if your main aim is to cut weight you should probably see just how many calories you are eating.

    All the above is very healthy but get the portions wrong and you're not going to go anywhere with it.

    For your recommended calories use a site like http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ to work out your BMR. These are the amount of cals you need just to have basic body function.

    It will also give you your TDEE, which is the amount of cals you use up in an average day of work/llife/exercise etc...

    For weight loss you need to cut from your TDEE. That site gives you options of how much to cut depending on your goals. At a bigger weight you could aim for 1-2 pounds a week. Lighter, aim for maybe 0.5 pound a week.

    Then if you go to a site like http://www.myfitnesspal.com you can enter in your day's food and get a calorie count. It will also tell you the amount of carbs, protein etc... in your diet and you can adjust accordingly.

    best of luck with it all. It may be a very common new year's resolution but it's one of the most fulfilling too when you succeed :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Let me start by saying I'm no expert but I'll give you my thoughts anyway :)





    All looks good to me. I'm slightly suspicious of weetabix but can't remember why...:confused: Something I read on here I think but I'm not 100%.

    Just watch your quantity of cheese because of the cal content, but then if you're bulking you may need those cals.
    Have you tried cottage cheese. Aldi should be paying me for the promotion of their cottage cheeses. They're delish and full of protein. They'd be lovely with that omelette.



    Again, nothing here that can't be even further enhanced by some cottage cheese :P
    Nah in all seriousness it looks good. Mix it up with the tuna because of the mercury content. I was eating tuna day in, day out, but recently starting roasting off some chicken breasts and having that with my salads instead.

    Any dressing on the salad? Not that it would be a bad thing necessarily! Just curious!



    I'm sure someone will come on here berating potatoes but I can't see the problem with once a week. I would eat them on a good solid workout day though.

    Rice and pasta best if they're wholegrain. Keep you nice and full for longer.
    Protein sources look good.
    Again, it is all about how you're cooking them though!



    Yum! I'm a big natural yoghurt fan too. Be nice to mix those seeds in it!
    Just watch the quantities of fruit because of their high sugar content.
    Quantities of nuts also, just if you're watching cals.



    Again, it's once a week. Grand in my eyes. I refer back to my earlier thing about weetabix. If you're cutting out bread, weetabix is of similar composition.



    I'm no protein shake expert so no comment!


    These all sound quite minimal to me. I incorporate a treat (usually choc bar or drinks out) once a week but it's whatever suits you and fits in to your overall aims diet wise.



    Green tea so good for you, I wish I liked it!

    Your diet looks pretty solid to me, but, as I said that's from one perspective!

    I would say to you that if your main aim is to cut weight you should probably see just how many calories you are eating.

    All the above is very healthy but get the portions wrong and you're not going to go anywhere with it.

    For your recommended calories use a site like http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ to work out your BMR. These are the amount of cals you need just to have basic body function.

    It will also give you your TDEE, which is the amount of cals you use up in an average day of work/llife/exercise etc...

    For weight loss you need to cut from your TDEE. That site gives you options of how much to cut depending on your goals. At a bigger weight you could aim for 1-2 pounds a week. Lighter, aim for maybe 0.5 pound a week.

    Then if you go to a site like http://www.myfitnesspal.com you can enter in your day's food and get a calorie count. It will also tell you the amount of carbs, protein etc... in your diet and you can adjust accordingly.

    best of luck with it all. It may be a very common new year's resolution but it's one of the most fulfilling too when you succeed :)

    Cheers for the feedback

    I manage my calories on fitday, and I'm pretty much within my daily allowance. I'm pretty happy with my calories, just looking for feedback on how healthy it was as a diet and looking for feed back potential new things.

    Wheetabix were added in order to mix things up and to give me carbs for the days I'm in the gym and in work.

    I'd often eats the seeds mixed with the Natural yoghurt...

    You mentioned portion sizes, i measure most things to get an accurate reading on cals, like since I've started weighing stuff, I've cut the amount of cheese used in my omelettes by 60%.

    With regards, to how i cook my protein source, fried with a tbsp of Olive Oil or Boiled.

    Rice and Pasta would be wholegrain, same as the bagel, it would be wholegrain too

    I reckon I need to get more fibre into my diet too, any recommendations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    My thoughts,
    I personally think that the general consensus would differ from mine.
    This type of diet is consistent with the same type of diet that the patients in cancer wards in every hostipal is filled with. You are overloading your body with ridiculous amounts of protein. And on top of that it's mainly animal protein so you are increasing your chances of osteophorsis (not sure of spelling). Sorry to burst the bubble but if you want different results you have to do something different.
    Graham


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    My thoughts,
    I personally think that the general consensus would differ from mine.
    This type of diet is consistent with the same type of diet that the patients in cancer wards in every hostipal is filled with. You are overloading your body with ridiculous amounts of protein. And on top of that it's mainly animal protein so you are increasing your chances of osteophorsis (not sure of spelling). Sorry to burst the bubble but if you want different results you have to do something different.
    Graham

    Well I'm currently training 4 days a week, soon to be upped to 5 days.

    I get protein from Yoghurt, Milk, Whey Protein Shakes, Cheese and Meats/Fish...Also eat a lot of veg(greens), so where else can I improve?

    Oh I'll be adding lentils into my diet more in the coming weeks, have made a few lentil dishes already but for got to include them in my OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    We don't need much protein. You should lookup a book called the china study, it is filled with mind opening views about the dangers of eating too much protein.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    I get all of my protien from fruits and vegetables. I don't take supplements to make up a shortfall because there is no shortfall. Fruit and veg have everything we need as humans to thrive.
    Graham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    My thoughts,
    I personally think that the general consensus would differ from mine.
    This type of diet is consistent with the same type of diet that the patients in cancer wards in every hostipal is filled with. You are overloading your body with ridiculous amounts of protein. And on top of that it's mainly animal protein so you are increasing your chances of osteophorsis (not sure of spelling). Sorry to burst the bubble but if you want different results you have to do something different.
    Graham

    The diets of people in cancer wards is much worse full of processed food. It's completely different to this and it doesn't have as much protein.
    There's also nothing wrong with protein or animal protein it does not cause osteoporosis.
    Breakfasts:
    Oats with Skimmed Milk w/seeds
    Wheetabix with Skimmed Milk w/seeds Cut this wheat is pretty bad for you
    Omelette with cheese & Spinach nothing wrong with cheese but keep an eye on how much you have, if you get a mature 3+years you don't need much because it has loads of flavour
    Hard Boiled Eggs
    Rashers

    Lunches:
    Omelette with cheese, Spinach and Mushrooms
    Tuna with salad(Tomatoes, Lettuce, Cumcumber, Sweet Corn) doc said it watch it if it's from the cans, you could go for smoked salmon it's lovely and full of good fats, there's also no harm in putting some good olive oil on it(dressing - olive oil/vinegar/some fresh herbs)

    Dinners:
    Steak-Once a week
    Fish(Salmon)-Once a week
    Chicken-5 times a week
    That's alot of chicken, I tend to try get in as much fish as possible so I'd up that and lower chicken and get in some other meats lamb is pretty good, I don't think I could eat that much chicken
    all dinners would be loaded with veg

    Veg:
    Broccoli, Carrots, Brussel Sprouts, Cauliflower

    Have potatoes once a week, have rice/pasta maybe twice a week pasta as I said wheat is pretty bad for you, and gliadan in it can cause you to crave rubbishy food

    Snacks
    Natural Yoghurt(5 Times a week)if its plain good, I don't like it and have to add in protein powder
    Seeds(Pumpkin, Linseed, Sunflower)
    Nuts(Brazil, Almonds, Peanuts)
    Fruit(Kiwi,Apples,Banana)

    Bread is pretty much cut out, have a bagel on Sundays with Peanut Butter as a kind of treat as I work all day sunday's and its something handy to eat as i walk to work.I'm not going to argue with a treat

    Protein:
    Would have protein shake after training and normally in the evening, depending on how much protein I've eaten during the day.

    Junk:
    I've only have a few days were I've eaten junk...
    Had Subway Once, Eddie Rocketts Once, also been to the cinema a few times and on 1 occasion had a bag of buttons but other times had a protein bar(not the worst but not the best either)
    Sometimes have a protein bar watching tv in the evening(maybe 2 in the 4 weeks)I wouldn't worry too much about this, it happens, enjoy it and then move on and get back to eating healthy after.

    Drinks
    Mainly Water and Green Tea, occasionally regular tea and when at the cinema diet soda.


    I know their isn't a lot of variety in there, but maybe with some feedback form you guys I'll be able to make my diet even better

    Your diet isn't bad, the only thing I can really see is to cut out the wheat and a bit more variety with meat/fish.

    Do you put these into a counter website like fitday or myfitnesspal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    I think your diet looks really good in general. Maybe lose the Weetabix. And, this is just me mind, but I don't see the problem with having potatoes or maybe rice every evening with dinner. Just not a large portion. But you might be low-carbing so that's just me. And as someone said, just watch out for portion size of calorie-dense stuff if you're going for weight loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    I get all of my protien from fruits and vegetables. I don't take supplements to make up a shortfall because there is no shortfall. Fruit and veg have everything we need as humans to thrive.
    Graham

    A lot of nutrients are much more bioavailable from animals sources. It doesn't matter if the nutrient is there if the body can't process it as efficiently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    Hi, you should really investigate a bit further.
    I would ask that you have an open mind when reading further


    There is a particular sulphuric amino acid only found in animal protein. Meat, milk, cheese , yoghurt etc.
    This amino acid causes a ph level imbalance in your blood. So you have too much acid in the blood. This can kill you if left alone.

    Stay with me here...

    Now your body is extremely intelligent and will not allow this to happen so it will use whatever sources it can access to neutralize the imbalance.
    The only way for your body to netrulise a acidic blood level is to use an alkaline mineral.
    I'll give you one guess what alkaline mineral is used to netrulise the blood? Yes that right Calcuim.
    This is a standard survival mechanism that our body uses to handle the sulphuric amino acids however when we eat animal protien consistently in volume our body will draw down the calcium from our teeth and bones to keep our blood in check.

    Take a look in the dentist the waiting room is files with people who brush there teeth twice daily. The elderly have more fractures than ever before because they have been drawing down calcium from there teeth and bones for years.

    Te outcome is osteoporosis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    Ill dig out the scientific studies if you would like further reading


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Hi, you should really investigate a bit further.
    I would ask that you have an open mind when reading further


    There is a particular sulphuric amino acid only found in animal protein. Meat, milk, cheese , yoghurt etc.
    This amino acid causes a ph level imbalance in your blood. So you have too much acid in the blood. This can kill you if left alone.

    Stay with me here...

    Now your body is extremely intelligent and will not allow this to happen so it will use whatever sources it can access to neutralize the imbalance.
    The only way for your body to netrulise a acidic blood level is to use an alkaline mineral.
    I'll give you one guess what alkaline mineral is used to netrulise the blood? Yes that right Calcuim.
    This is a standard survival mechanism that our body uses to handle the sulphuric amino acids however when we eat animal protien consistently in volume our body will draw down the calcium from our teeth and bones to keep our blood in check.

    Take a look in the dentist the waiting room is files with people who brush there teeth twice daily. The elderly have more fractures than ever before because they have been drawing down calcium from there teeth and bones for years.

    Te outcome is osteoporosis.

    No I'm sorry but I have heard and read this many times and it's simply not true. The main problem with the whole acid alkaline foods is that your stomach is full of acid and it's meant to be.
    Also the same thing can be said of you eat too much alkaline food with the same theory you can cause problems by eating too much alkaline food.

    Meat does not cause osteoporosis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    All in all, you are obviously a conscious eater. So you will discover wat works best for you, and this takes time, the girls have made some good points.
    I'm just throwing in my 2 cents worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    Orla K wrote: »
    No I'm sorry but I have heard and read this many times and it's simply not true. The main problem with the whole acid alkaline foods is that your stomach is full of acid and it's meant to be.
    Also the same thing can be said of you eat too much alkaline food with the same theory you can cause problems by eating too much alkaline food.

    Meat does not cause osteoporosis.

    This has been proven in scientific research and printed in the journals.
    Excessive amounts of animal protien leads to osteoporosis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    This has been proven in scientific research and printed in the journals.
    Excessive amounts of animal protien leads to osteoporosis.

    And what were the variables in these studies.
    It's very difficult to do a study on people with regards to diet unless you lock the group up and control every aspect of their lives.

    It could have just been it was a ****e diet that had meat in it, not a healthy diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    Here's an article on the subject. References the studies near the end of the page.

    http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/96/11.14.96/osteoporosis.html

    Maybe you would have to lock up a group if you were studying a small group. This study was the largest of it kind.
    Open you mind to something different you have nothing to defend?




  • The china study.


    Gas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    We don't need much protein. You should lookup a book called the china study, it is filled with mind opening views about the dangers of eating too much protein.

    In before El_Dangeroso


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Here's an article on the subject. References the studies near the end of the page.

    http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/96/11.14.96/osteoporosis.html

    Maybe you would have to lock up a group if you were studying a small group. This study was the largest of it kind.
    Open you mind to something different you have nothing to defend?

    It matters for all studies. It's just not possible to control all variables and those variables could be what's causing problems not meat.

    As for Campbell his finding in the china study have been very much debunked by Denise Minger here you can read it here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    I remember minger. She published her views on the study where prof Campbell addressed. There was no debunking of any kind. Also who is Denise minger? Self admitted she has no formal phd of any kind.
    That would be like saying that my little sister debunked the study....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    I remember minger. She published her views on the study where prof Campbell addressed. There was no debunking of any kind. Also who is Denise minger? Self admitted she has no formal phd of any kind.
    That would be like saying that my little sister debunked the study....

    It doesn't matter who she is, her points are valid. As well as that 'The China Study' isn't a study it's a book on his views on the actual study.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    He spent most of his career working on this study. And of course it matters who says what in the medical & scientific profession. You can't have every Tom dick and Harry publishing there views on studies and be taken seriously.
    Good luck

    Graham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    He spent most of his career working on this study. And of course it matters who says what in the medical & scientific profession. You can't have every Tom dick and Harry publishing there views on studies and be taken seriously.
    Good luck

    Graham

    There were still far too many variables in the actual study and as well as that he's no good at his profession since he takes his personal bias into his work and distorts his findings to his own view. That can really be seen in his work with lab rats and casein he concluded that casein(alone) given to lab rats would have the same result as animal protein given to humans, they're vastly different and it doesn't even mean that casein is bad for people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 grahamhyland


    Casein, has been documented in numerous articles as a carcinogen. And your correct because you can't relate what happens to rats will happen to humans. But it is accepted in the profession. The same way that testing medicine on lab rats is accepted in the profession.
    Now I can clearly see that you are lookin to basically pick holes in my view to what the original poster asked for. (sorry sober paddy). Therefore I will not be responding to your next google search.

    I would also suggest you pickup a copy of the book and don't look to google to build an argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Casein, has been documented in numerous articles as a carcinogen. And your correct because you can't relate what happens to rats will happen to humans. But it is accepted in the profession. The same way that testing medicine on lab rats is accepted in the profession.
    Now I can clearly see that you are lookin to basically pick holes in my view to what the original poster asked for. (sorry sober paddy). Therefore I will not be responding to your next google search.

    I would also suggest you pickup a copy of the book and don't look to google to build an argument.

    It's not accepted in the profession, what is accepted is using it as a first step to gauge how the human study would go and there has to be human studies, esp for testing medicine.

    Threads here often get derailed like this, I have found it's where people can learn the most, I'm not trying to pick holes I'm just getting to the facts of if the OP should cut down on his animal protein or not.

    And I'm not using google it's all coming from my head to my hands and onto the keyboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Sephya


    Orla K wrote: »
    As for Campbell his finding in the china study have been very much debunked by Denise Minger here you can read it here.

    denise minger... hahahahaha

    Orla K wrote: »
    It doesn't matter who she is, her points are valid. As well as that 'The China Study' isn't a study it's a book on his views on the actual study.

    how are her points valid? because you'd like them to be? her "analysis" is so badly flawed it's comical but the broscientists love it.

    by the way, the china study only comprises one chapter of the book, not the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Sephya wrote: »
    denise minger... hahahahaha




    how are her points valid? because you'd like them to be? her "analysis" is so badly flawed it's comical but the broscientists love it.

    by the way, the china study only comprises one chapter of the book, not the whole thing.

    A chapter is a part of the book, if the chapter is compromised then the whole book is compromised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Sephya


    A chapter is a part of the book, if the chapter is compromised then the whole book is compromised.

    how is the book "compromised"?

    a single chapter deals with the china study. the rest of the book is not about the china study.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Sephya wrote: »
    denise minger... hahahahaha




    how are her points valid? because you'd like them to be? her "analysis" is so badly flawed it's comical but the broscientists love it.

    by the way, the china study only comprises one chapter of the book, not the whole thing.

    And your argument is invalid since you haven't even given a reason why you think her analysis is flawed.

    Also the book is called 'The China Study' so if there's only one chapter in the actually about the china study, is it not misleading(like his findings)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Sephya


    Orla K wrote: »
    And your argument is invalid since you haven't even given a reason why you think her analysis is flawed.

    i take it that you accept mingers "analysis" without question. she is simply an english major, not a statistician nor an epidemiologist. (background and academic credentials are certainly not everything..but..background in the field, and especially peer review, all give one perspective and insight that is not otherwise attainable.)

    minger failed to understand that the findings described in the book are not solely based on the china "survey data". As explained in the book "the china study", it drew conclusions from *several* findings and it is the *consistency* among ALL the various findings that matter.

    these principles also collectively and substantially inferred major health benefits of whole plant-based foods. unfortunately, this issue of biological plausibility too often escapes the attention of "statisticians", who are more familiar with "number crunching" than with actual biological phenomena.
    Orla K wrote: »
    Also the book is called 'The China Study' so if there's only one chapter in the actually about the china study, is it not misleading(like his findings)

    the title of the book was down to the publishers. campbell didnt want to call it that but it wasnt his decision. however, you calling his findings misleading is a canard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Cheers for the feedback guys, can anyone suggest other types of fish that would be good choices?

    I also keep track of my eating on Fitday so I can keep my calories in line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭Orla K


    Cheers for the feedback guys, can anyone suggest other types of fish that would be good choices?

    I also keep track of my eating on Fitday so I can keep my calories in line

    http://www.sacn.gov.uk/pdfs/fics_03_01_annex_01.pdf

    Trout is known as poor mans salmon
    Lidl have a smoked mackerel that's nice, there's a supervalu one that's full of bones.
    Whiting and lemon sole are nice too.
    Fresh tuna is fantastic and can be cooked like a steak, I did mine before med/rare.

    The oily fish have a bit more oil in them(obviously) so I'd judge them a bit better but the white fish is pretty good too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Can you guys give me some idea's on how to use smoked Salmon...

    Had it with cream cheese and bagels today, but would like an alternative method


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I like smoked salmon with a green salad (rocket/spinach/chard) and fresh lemon

    Very simple but nice.

    Also good in scrambled eggs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    So is Weetabix not good for you?

    Only wondering as me and my 2 kids would eat it every breakfast. They love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So is Weetabix not good for you?

    Only wondering as me and my 2 kids would eat it every breakfast. They love it.

    Its not "bad for you" its less added sugar then most cereals. (some do say too much wheat can be pretty bad)

    Its just that there are much better options for breakfast.

    Having weetabix once in a while is fine, but try to get one of the better options in the mornings, youll feel better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Can you guys give me some idea's on how to use smoked Salmon...

    Most satisfying way is in big handfuls stuffed into your mouth !

    or ya could make brown rice sushi rolls with it or just on salad


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