Adams apologizes for past IRA killings of Irish Gardai and soldiers in Irish Republic

Podgerz

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0129/breaking56.html

“I am very sorry for the pain and loss inflicted on those families. No word of mine can remove that hurt. Dreadful events cannot be undone,” Adams said.

So in trying to advance from the current tragedy in his own constituency ; will it work, I suppose he can now avoid the obvious mud slinging on this issue in the Dail and can not be seen to have double standards.

I wonder what the reception will be

philologos

About time.

Fratton Fred

Podgerz wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0129/breaking56.html

“I am very sorry for the pain and loss inflicted on those families. No word of mine can remove that hurt. Dreadful events cannot be undone,” Adams said.

So in trying to advance from the current tragedy in his own constituency ; will it work, I suppose he can now avoid the obvious mud slinging on this issue in the Dail and can not be seen to have double standards.

I wonder what the reception will be

Why is he apologising, I thought he was never in the IRA?

It might be a bit more believable as well if his party didn't provide a celebration when the killers were released.

Iwasfrozen

philologos wrote:

About time.

Yeah well done for coming out and saying it.

My name is URL

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Why is he apologising, I thought he was never in the IRA?

It might be a bit more believable as well if his party didn't provide a celebration when the killers were released.

Would it be better if he didn't offer any sort of apology?

bleg

My name is URL wrote: »

Would it be better if he didn't offer any sort of apology?

Yup.

flutered

dammed when he did, dammed when he didint.

Podgerz

bleg wrote: »

Yup.

So you could cite him as a hypocrite for condemning the recent killing of the Garda in Dundalk?

Mint Sauce

So does this mean he was in the IRA?

Podgerz

irish-stew wrote: »

So does this mean he was in the IRA?

I suppose he has always stated that he was merely a spokesman for its political wing Sinn Fein; i dont think him making this statement is any different from any of Sinn Feins previous statements over IRA activity

washman3

Well, at least its a move in the right direction.
btw the killers of Garda Donohue will be caught, i have no doubt.
40 years penal servitude,for all 5 involved, no ifs or buts or deals with one to rat on another. preferably lock them up and throw away the key.

Lapin

Shame it took the cowardly murder of another Guard 17 years after his mates did the same thing for him to say sorry.

fasttalkerchat

Some will never be happy!

allthedoyles

washman3 wrote: »

Well, at least its a move in the right direction.
btw the killers of Garda Donohue will be caught, i have no doubt.
40 years penal servitude,for all 5 involved, no ifs or buts or deals with one to rat on another. preferably lock them up and throw away the key.

All involved will get 40 yrs .........don't know about the penal servitude ... I think thats wishful thinking .

You must know by now, how these prisoners are treated .

dirtyden

Podgerz wrote: »

So you could cite him as a hypocrite for condemning the recent killing of the Garda in Dundalk?

I for one certainly would.

arybvtcw0eolkf

My name is URL wrote: »

Would it be better if he didn't offer any sort of apology?

As a member of the defence forces it means something to me.

Not a whole lot mind, I'm not jumping for joy. But putting this country on the right path means pain for us all, yes including Adams & Co.

phog

17 years too late. Maybe he could give back the bodies of the disappeared now to their families while he's trying to sway some public support.

Janedoe10

Ya well it doesn't mean much to those that suffered at the hands of dessidents .
Why apologise if this was Garda killing was due to a criminal gang from up north . ?Using this sorry episode to bring up that sad era in Irish politics .

http://www.leaderpost.com/touch/story.html?id=7865302

washman3

allthedoyles wrote: »

All involved will get 40 yrs .........don't know about the penal servitude ... I think thats wishful thinking .

You must know by now, how these prisoners are treated .

Quite true, but hope you are wrong. time now to set a proper precedent.:mad:

super_furry

They haven't gone away you know.

Standman

He must have been inspired by Lance Armstrong.

It wasn't me!

I've got very little positive to say about Gerry Adams, but this is definitely a big leap forward. Fair fecks. It's been a long time coming, but it has come.

Pappa Charlie

Julio Substantial Glassware wrote: »

As a member of the defence forces it means something to me.

Not a whole lot mind, I'm not jumping for joy. But putting this country on the right path means pain for us all, yes including Adams & Co.

In fairness I agree it's time to move on and if GA manages to help hold the peace process and build on it then we'll be in a better place!

My name is URL

Julio Substantial Glassware wrote: »

As a member of the defence forces it means something to me.

Not a whole lot mind, I'm not jumping for joy. But putting this country on the right path means pain for us all, yes including Adams & Co.

That's it. Reconciliation is always met with resentment. It's ironic that those opposing attempts to reconcile are often the ones who admonish others for 'living in the past'.

Time for everyone to move one from the civil war politics.

anncoates

Why would the IRA need to apologize for operations they didn't supposedly sanction?

Lone Stone

You cant begrudge an apology.

super_furry

In 2004 Adams was lobbying and campaigning for the release of Gerry McCabe's murderers. Forgive me if this 'apology' rings a little hallow.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Lone Stone wrote: »

You cant begrudge an apology.

In a nation of begrudgers?.

talla10

Meaningless words from a known terrorist.

Redsquigy

Maybe the fact that he will be attending Detective Garda Donohoe's funeral tomorrow would be seen as hypocritical if he did not come out and apologise for Jerry McCabe's death

In Exile

Janedoe10 wrote: »

Why apologise if this was Garda killing was due to a criminal gang from up north . ?

This is something that crossed my mind the first time I heard it.

Maybe it is something I taught up daydreaming on the way to work, and it would be better served in the Conspiracy Theories, but could it possibly have been some sort of an IRA faction, whether dissident or whatever they call themselves who committed murder the other day?
And Adams is getting in before the storm, apologising for McCabes killing, so if it turns out to be IRA, then it would be easier for Sinn Fein to distance themselves from the fallout?

All wild speculation, but a man who has gone out of his way for so long to not apologise suddenly does? For me, there can only be ulterior motives

Janedoe10

http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/20204 jerry =peace

chipsdave

Get a life you ****ing Arsholes
Gerry Adams is THE greatest Politician any of you creeps will see in your shallow lifetimes.

My name is URL

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Why is he apologising, I thought he was never in the IRA?

David Cameron wasn't on the streets of Belfast on Bloody Sunday.. why did he apologize a while back?

anncoates

chipsdave wrote: »

Get a life you ****ing Arsholes
Gerry Adams is THE greatest Politician any of you creeps will see in your shallow lifetimes.

Hi Mary Lou.

Madam_X

anncoates wrote: »

Hi Mary Lou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0AkRThPCSU

Biggins

chipsdave wrote: »

I'm a big boy now. See, I can curse!

:rolleyes:

uck51js9zml2yt

chipsdave wrote: »

Get a life you ****ing Arsholes
Gerry Adams is THE greatest Politician any of you creeps will see in your shallow lifetimes.

taken in the spirit in which it was said. Thanks for the laugh.
Quiet impressive number of posts in 5 months btw

murraykil

Without Gerry Adams the Provisional IRA would have still have come into existence. Without Gerry Adams they might still be in existence.

ricero

Fair play gerald

Dostoevsky

Podgerz wrote: »

Adams apologizes for past IRA killings of Irish Gardai and soldiers in Irish Republic

I doubt it very much, given that the soldiers in question would have been British soldiers and there would have been no gardaí. The ignorance of the BBC has a lot to answer for on this point.

Irish Republic

mickydoomsux

Trying to gain a bit of political credibility by making a "timely" apology.

A despicably opportunistic statement from a despicable human being.

We all know you're dirty Gerry, stop pretending you're a peacemaker.

EireGreg

Fair play gerry better late than never... 32

Podgerz

Dostoevsky wrote: »

I doubt it very much, given that the soldiers in question would have been British soldiers and there would have been no gardaí. The ignorance of the BBC has a lot to answer for on this point.

Irish Republic

Im sorry ..what? He was apologising for attempts to injure Gardai etc in the 26 counties, not the north.

Nodin

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Trying to gain a bit of political credibility by making a "timely" apology.

A despicably opportunistic statement from a despicable human being.

We all know you're dirty Gerry, stop pretending you're a peacemaker.

So there was no peace process then?

roughneck

Lick arse to the fold ,how much is a vote worth in the ireland of the old .

OCorcrainn

There is already a thread here.

K-9

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Yeah well done for coming out and saying it.

Julio Substantial Glassware wrote: »

As a member of the defence forces it means something to me.

Not a whole lot mind, I'm not jumping for joy. But putting this country on the right path means pain for us all, yes including Adams & Co.

But why?

Next we'll have McGuinness apologising for some sin he himself wasn't involved in, though might have been involved in, though wait, what month was that exactly? Oh and what year?

What's he apologising for? Most Garda murderers were INLA or some other conveniently formed force.

The IRA didn't shoot unarmed members of the Garda Siochana in the back, while running away to get assistance, so they said.

Considering he's consistent and manipulating over everything, why the sudden admissal? Adams has a bit of a guilty conscience methinks.

Death and Taxes

washman3 wrote: »

Well, at least its a move in the right direction.
btw the killers of Garda Donohue will be caught, i have no doubt.
40 years penal servitude,for all 5 involved, no ifs or buts or deals with one to rat on another. preferably lock them up and throw away the key.

Penal Sevitude was abolished years ago.

knucklehead6

My name is URL wrote: »

David Cameron wasn't on the streets of Belfast on Bloody Sunday.. why did he apologize a while back?

Cameron could well have been in Belfast that day. Sightseeing or something.

Madam

Ah well we had the British apologising for Bloody Sunday, The Famine, Finucane's murder etc - why not the 'Ra for their atrocities:rolleyes: Get it all out in the open(much like picking a scab to see the nice new skin underneath;))