DPD 2013

td5man

Development programme for dairying 2013, pros & cons.
Complete grass wedge by end august
Join herdplus
Profit monitor 2012 by end october
Hsa risk assesment by end july
Attend cellcheck workshop by end september
Attend 5 discussion group meetings by end october.

PMU

5 meetings? we had to attend 9 meetings plus an open day or dairy conference in the previous scheme

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

Development programme for dairying 2013, pros & cons.
Complete grass wedge by end august
Join herdplus
Profit monitor 2012 by end october
Hsa risk assesment by end july
Attend cellcheck workshop by end september
Attend 5 discussion group meetings by end october.

i dont get why the 2012 profit monitor has to be done by october, surely the earlier it is done , things could be being done to improve a situation

td5man

sounds like a lot more paperwork to me
me no like paperwork :eek:

stanflt

td5man wrote: »

sounds like a lot more paperwork to me
me no like paperwork :eek:

paperwork= efficiency

Timmaay

td5man wrote: »

pros & cons.

There all pros on that list :P The paper work is fairness isn't hard at all, the teagasc lad over the group will be able to show ya all that. Herdplus has removes the messing through paperwork, and shows you so much detail, like full information on a cows history etc, totally invaluable!

delaval

What is DPD 2013?

Timmaay

Extension of the DES, but only for people who weren't part of it for the last 3yrs will get the payment.

delaval

Timmaay wrote: »

Extension of the DES, but only for people who weren't part of it for the last 3yrs will get the payment.

Another waste of money paying people to attend meetings what a load of bollix

Timmaay

Sorry, the DEP, not the DES (I assume you coped that mistake). But anyways I'm guessing you didn't have a positive experience of them so ha? I can see you're point of view though, some of the farmers in our group had zero interest in actual changes. From my point of view it was an utter no brainer, getting paid to go learn how to farm better! Teagasc certainly are touting the whole thing to be a massive success anyways - http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/view_publication.aspx?PublicationID=1844

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Another waste of money paying people to attend meetings what a load of bollix

each to their own, i learnt alot, as usual there where the guys who knew everything anyways and others who where only there for the money.... 9 of us are staying on as a group. I think the fact there will be no money means that we are all commited now

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

each to their own, i learnt alot, as usual there where the guys who knew everything anyways and others who where only there for the money.... 9 of us are staying on as a group. I think the fact there will be no money means that we are all commited now

Its always good to see what others are doing and thinking whether you agree with what they are doing or not.

td5man

Weve been summoned to teagasc re discussion group .

freedominacup

td5man wrote: »

Weve been summoned to teagasc re discussion group .

We had our second of the year today. Only three were signin' the rest were only there because they wanted they wanted to be. Very good meeting plenty of guys making a good contribution with plenty of contrary views on most topics. I'm eligible for the scheme but there's too much duplication in what's outlined.

whelan1

payment in my account 877.50

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

payment in my account 877.50

Party??

td5man

freedominacup wrote: »

We had our second of the year today. Only three were signin' the rest were only there because they wanted they wanted to be. Very good meeting plenty of guys making a good contribution with plenty of contrary views on most topics. I'm eligible for the scheme but there's too much duplication in what's outlined.

How long do these meetings go on for usually?

whelan1

we have set down rulles in our group start at 11 sharp finsh at 1... any one over 20 minutes late can fook off and none of this crap of arriving late, signing in and fooking off after half an hour

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

we have set down rulles in our group start at 11 sharp finsh at 1... any one over 20 minutes late can fook off and none of this crap of arriving late, signing in and fooking off after half an hour

11 to1 or 2 to 4 in our case. Wouldn't be as hard on latecomers esp during calving. Most guys stay for the full meeting. As I said most of us aren't there for DPD.

whelan1

freedominacup wrote: »

11 to1 or 2 to 4 in our case. Wouldn't be as hard on latecomers esp during calving. Most guys stay for the full meeting. As I said most of us aren't there for DPD.

agree about during calving but we had 1 lad that was late for every meeting last year and would go home early, he is not in the group this year as there is no money in it for him, this guy runs a charolaois bull with his cows

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

agree about during calving but we had 1 lad that was late for every meeting last year and would go home early, he is not in the group this year as there is no money in it for him, this guy runs a charolaois bull with his cows

Wasn't me i wouldnt be late :-)

td5man

1st meeting over!!

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

1st meeting over!!

so did you learn anything?

td5man

whelan1 wrote: »

so did you learn anything?

That i still hate paperwork
And that you have to be registered with bord bia to factory a cull cow since the horsemeat thing

kevthegaff

i was at one last week, discussion about diseases smallenberg bvd salmonella crypto coccidiosis ibr cellcount etc, local vet came in. it was pretty good even though i knew a good bit, it still refreshed a lot on vaccinations preventions etc what is the payment lads for this year- i have to join icbf-60e teagasc-??

td5man

kevthegaff wrote: »

i was at one last week, discussion about diseases smallenberg bvd salmonella crypto coccidiosis ibr cellcount etc, local vet came in. it was pretty good even though i knew a good bit, it still refreshed a lot on vaccinations preventions etc what is the payment lads for this year- i have to join icbf-60e teagasc-??

220 for teagasc 30 for cellcheck i think

Timmaay

Teagasc is 420quid this year for discussion group members. ICBF 50quid if you pay by direct debt, but if your complaining about that then you have utterly no idea the value of anything, 50quid is nothing considering the shedloads of information you can get up quickly about your herd, if it cost 500quid I'd have no problems paying it!

Timmaay

whelan1 wrote: »

payment in my account 877.50

Nothing here yet! Time for an angry call to the adviser :P, cashflow is tight as fook at the minute with nuts and fertilizer bills!

td5man

Talking to a lad after the meeting and he wasn't going to the next meeting as it was costing too much ,head in the sand??

kevthegaff

Timmaay wrote: »

Teagasc is 420quid this year for discussion group members. ICBF 50quid if you pay by direct debt, but if your complaining about that then you have utterly no idea the value of anything, 50quid is nothing considering the shedloads of information you can get up quickly about your herd, if it cost 500quid I'd have no problems paying it!

did i complain?

Timmaay

Sorry Kev, jumped the gun there and assumed ya haven't signed up and were moaning, but I still personally think its probably the most useful 50quid spend on the farm!

freedominacup

Timmaay wrote: »

Sorry Kev, jumped the gun there and assumed ya haven't signed up and were moaning, but I still personally think its probably the most useful 50quid spend on the farm!

What do you get from cell check that you don't get from milk recording?

kevthegaff

no worries, i enjoyed the first meeting even though ive spent donkey years in lectures and classrooms already! at the end of the day your getting payed to learn:)

whelan1

yup, I think its great to see how other people do things,its great to go home and think how you could change things for the better, also on here you learn alot... i find myself in the group meetings talking about things i have picked up from boards:rolleyes:

Timmaay

freedominacup wrote: »

What do you get from cell check that you don't get from milk recording?

I was talking about herdplus, not cell check. I'll agree with ya though, the hygiene guideline reports that were produced by that cell check were great, and thought me a good few things, but the actual cell check reports are abit pointless, a cow is a goner if she doesn't clear up quick, no two ways about it is there?