2010 Corrolla 1.4 Diesel Price Guide

censuspro

I'm at the early stages of buying a second hand car. Ideally would like to get a 2010 Corrolla 1.4/1.6 diesel with low mileage. Car is going to be used mainly for city driving with occasional long distance driving about once per month (approx 10,000km per year)

Would appreciate any guide prices from this forum as websites like cbg and car zone don't seem to have any consistency. Can anyone on here tell me what region I should realistically be paying for the above Corrolla?

kaimera

why get a diesel for 10k km a year and mainly city driving?

road_high

Yea get a petrol. All the city driving is possibly going to lead to problems with dpfs (if Corolla has one) etc.

bazz26

You need to look at the purchase price difference between the diesel model and the petrol model, then work out how long it would take you to make that money back given your low annual mileage.

Imo I think even a hybrid like the Civic IMA would probably suit you better given you will mostly use it in the city.

MuppetCheck

kaimera wrote: »

why get a diesel for 10k km a year and mainly city driving?

Because there is a herd of them over there.


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censuspro

OP here. Reason for the Diesel is VAT.

Looking online and there seems to be no consistency in the prices ranging from early to late teens.

Any ideas on what I should realistically expect to pay for a clean 1.4D Corrolla with low mileage.

Also, what are the opinions on the Corrolla's in general on this forum considering what I'll be using it for.

reilig

censuspro wrote: »

OP here. Reason for the Diesel is VAT.

Looking online and there seems to be no consistency in the prices ranging from early to late teens.

Any ideas on what I should realistically expect to pay for a clean 1.4D Corrolla with low mileage.

Also, what are the opinions on the Corrolla's in general on this forum considering what I'll be using it for.

15k to 17k is around the price for a 2010 model depending on spec.

Corolla are a good reliable car and very economical on fuel which makes them ideal for high mileage.

Considered boring by many people. Also considered over priced in comparison to other makes by some people. Also only have a 3 year limited mileage warranty in comparison to competitors who offer 5 and 7 year unlimited mileage warranties.

I had an auris which has the same engine and its still going strong with over 300k km without every having to put a part into it. Changed to a corolla in 2012. Cheap servicing and good reliability kept me away from other brands. Also, I found it to be extremely comfortable with regards to seat positions, legroom (I'm 6ft 6") and general driving comfort.

However, I'm no expert on cars, but my mechanic tells me that you need to be doing at least 25K miles per year to make economic sense to pay a higher price for a diesel over a petrol. Also, a diesel needs to be getting fairly regular fast runs to keep the Diesel partical filter clean. A majority of city driving does not suit a diesel.

If you do want a diesel, you have to work out if the 20% vat saving on fuel will outweigh the costs (if any) of having to carry out repairs to the car because of the low mileage (DFP's are an expensive fix). Probably someone on here can advise you better than me in this regard.

Jut a few quick calculations:

2010 Corolla diesel 10,000 km p/y Cost 15k
Fuel cost at current price = approx 600 euro per year (based on my own car's performance)
savings for being able to reclaim vat on diesel = 130 euro per year (21% vat)

Total cost = 470 per year in fuel.

2010 Corolla petrol 10,000 p/y Cost 12k
Fuel = approx 1000 euro.

You save 530 euro per year with a diesel.

You pay 3000 euro extra for the diesel car.

You start to get a return on your investment in just under 6 years.

Its a long time to wait!

JohnBoy26

censuspro wrote: »

OP here. Reason for the Diesel is VAT.

Looking online and there seems to be no consistency in the prices ranging from early to late teens.

Any ideas on what I should realistically expect to pay for a clean 1.4D Corrolla with low mileage.

Also, what are the opinions on the Corrolla's in general on this forum considering what I'll be using it for.

Op that model Corolla is way down in quality compared to it's predecessors. The interior isnt a very nice place to be with very cheap plastics every where and it isn't all that nice to drive either.

As for reliabilty don't be fooled by the badge because this generation corolla is nothing special in this regard. Gearbox trouble and power steering ecus going pop aren't unheard of.

As a fan of older Toyotas and an owner of an older gen corolla, I am very dissapointed with their latest effort and I would never consider buying one.

A Hyundai I30 or a Kia Cee'd are much better cars in every way to a corolla imo, and that's what id be buying if I was looking for a car in that class. As your milage is so low though a petrol model is the way to go and finding a 2010 petrol car could be a little difficult.

cruiser178

Friend of mine bought 07 corolla (new shape) in 09 had it up til few months ago. Never gave him much trouble but god awful to drive, they feel so poorly built and absolutely gutless.

Bare with me op

Friend of mine bought 07 corolla (new shape) D4D 4 months ago. Last weekend he was replacing the camshaft for the 2nd time. First time it happened on a motorway in the UK, can you imagine that nightmare. Apparently (im not a mechanic, dont quote me) there is a pipe in the sump that brings the oil up to the head and its recommended this pipe is cleared every second service but how many ppl know this.

Personally i wouldn't touch newer Toyota's with a barge pole (and im a older toyota fan, just sold my 98 Avensis with 300,000 mls on it) im just hearing too many horror stories.

censuspro

cruiser178 wrote: »

Friend of mine bought 07 corolla (new shape) in 09 had it up til few months ago. Never gave him much trouble but god awful to drive, they feel so poorly built and absolutely gutless.

Bare with me op

Friend of mine bought 07 corolla (new shape) D4D 4 months ago. Last weekend he was replacing the camshaft for the 2nd time. First time it happened on a motorway in the UK, can you imagine that nightmare. Apparently (im not a mechanic, dont quote me) there is a pipe in the sump that brings the oil up to the head and its recommended this pipe is cleared every second service but how many ppl know this.

Personally i wouldn't touch newer Toyota's with a barge pole (and im a older toyota fan, just sold my 98 Avensis with 300,000 mls on it) im just hearing too many horror stories.

What are you driving at the moment cruise?

So what would posters consider to be better alternatives to the Corrolla - Focus, Octavia, Jetta? Problem is that any type of research you do there is another thread about how bad those cars are.
Is there any justification for stepping up a size to Avensis, Mondeo, Passat territory?

JohnBoy26

censuspro wrote: »

What are you driving at the moment cruise?

So what would posters consider to be better alternatives to the Corrolla - Focus, Octavia, Jetta? Problem is that any type of research you do there is another thread about how bad those cars are.
Is there any justification for stepping up a size to Avensis, Mondeo, Passat territory?

As i said above a Hyundai i30 or kia cee'd would be a very good choice. They are the same car mechanically and are very reliable and decent cars.

jackofalltrades

reilig wrote: »

However, I'm no expert on cars, but my mechanic tells me that you need to be doing at least 25K miles per year to make economic sense to pay a higher price for a diesel over a petrol.

It's not as simple as saying that you need to be doing X miles a year to justify a diesel.

You need to take into account that when you sell the diesel that you will get more for it. Which is especially true given the strong demand there is for diesels cars out there. You also need to take into account all the other associated costs too.

JohnBoy26

jackofalltrades wrote: »

It's not as simple as saying that you need to be doing X miles a year to justify a diesel.

You need to take into account that when you sell the diesel that you will get more for it. Which is especially true given the strong demand there is for diesels cars out there. You also need to take into account all the other associated costs too.

There's hardly alot to go wrong though in those 1.4 d4d engines from doing small milage.

cruiser178

censuspro wrote: »

What are you driving at the moment cruise?

Audi A4

censuspro

cruiser178 wrote: »

Audi A4

An Audi A4 would be lovely but it's a night and day difference in terms of purchase price and running costs. Do you mind me asking what year and main reasons for getting one?

cruiser178

censuspro wrote: »

An Audi A4 would be lovely but it's a night and day difference in terms of purchase price and running costs. Do you mind me asking what year and main reasons for getting one?

I bought an older one 05 (newer shape) 7000e. I bought Audi because im used to driving that size engine in a diesel. I put up on average 25,000 mls per year, so comfort also plays a big part, the Audi has a lovely driving position. Excellent at holding the road, gives you great confidence when driving on our first class back roads and with 18" alloys it looks really good. Fuel economy is not something i worry too much about (within reason of course) i sold this beast http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055602635&page=3 12 months ago only because i couldn't get commercial tax on it any more, that was a sad, sad day

bridgepeople

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Op that model Corolla is way down in quality compared to it's predecessors. The interior isnt a very nice place to be with very cheap plastics every where and it isn't all that nice to drive either.

As for reliabilty don't be fooled by the badge because this generation corolla is nothing special in this regard. Gearbox trouble and power steering ecus going pop aren't unheard of.

As a fan of older Toyotas and an owner of an older gen corolla, I am very dissapointed with their latest effort and I would never consider buying one.

A Hyundai I30 or a Kia Cee'd are much better cars in every way to a corolla imo, and that's what id be buying if I was looking for a car in that class. As your milage is so low though a petrol model is the way to go and finding a 2010 petrol car could be a little difficult.

The Corolla is rated top in its class in the JD Power 2012 reliability survey. Toyotas come top in 8 of the 14 categories in fact. Whatever else you might fault the Corolla on, I don't think reliability is a concern

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm

colm_mcm

bridgepeople wrote: »

The Corolla is rated top in its class in the JD Power 2012 reliability survey. Toyotas come top in 8 of the 14 categories in fact. Whatever else you might fault the Corolla on, I don't think reliability is a concern

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm

That's a US based survey. I'd be benchmarking the European corolla against its auris sister.

Auris seems to do well on tuv ratings.

It's far from a bad car, but in practice, its really poor use of space and low driving position are enough to put me off, that and a lack of nice engines. The 1.4 really struggles with the weight. The later 6 speed box helps somewhat.

JohnBoy26

bridgepeople wrote: »

The Corolla is rated top in its class in the JD Power 2012 reliability survey. Toyotas come top in 8 of the 14 categories in fact. Whatever else you might fault the Corolla on, I don't think reliability is a concern

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm

As colm said that's a us based survey. As far as im aware their corolla model differs from ours quiet a bit and doesn't come with a 1.4 diesel engine.

Anyway I was just telling the op what I have seen giving trouble in these. Two of my neighbours have 2007 new shape corollas and both have suffered from noisy gearbox bearings and one has had to have the power steering ecu replaced(according to the local main dealer it's a common problem on them and on the auris as well).

colm_mcm

Don't know if the 6 speed improved things. I know the 6 speed in the post 2006 avensis diesel was a lot more robust than the 5 speed.

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

Don't know if the 6 speed improved things. I know the 6 speed in the post 2006 avensis diesel was a lot more robust than the 5 speed.

That I don't know, the 2006 facelift avensis is a much improved car though over the pre facelift imo.

colm_mcm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

That I don't know, the 2006 facelift avensis is a much improved car though over the pre facelift imo.

When I was selling them, when the facelift cane out, the thing people got most excited about was indicators in the wing mirrors.....


Thankfully they deleted the dodgiest colours too.

Leonard Hofstadter

When the Avensis switched to six speed, it got a new engine to go with the gearbox. When the Corolla went to six speed, it got a little more torque but otherwise the engine was unchanged.

The current model Corolla is a terrible car in my opinion, it's nearly the size of an Avensis but is only as big inside as a Corolla. The interior is mank, most of the models have in true Toyota Ireland tradition SFA as standard, it's noisy, the ride isn't great, and reliability while good is hardly anything to get worked up about.

OP, you would be infinitely better served by a Mazda 3 or Ford Focus petrol, or as already noted, a Hyundai i30 or Kia Cee'd. Any of those cars will be at least as good as the Corolla for reliability, but all of them better the Corolla in at least one of standard equipment, space, nice interior, good ride, handling etc. If reliability and peace of mind was my number one concern, I'd have the Kia, not least because it has a 7 year / 150,000 km warranty.