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Prison as a lifestyle choice.
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26-01-2013 12:04am#1
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No sex, no holding your wife and kissing her.
What have you got against gays?
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celticcrash wrote: »Thanks so its 3/4
Did you both somehow manage to miss the bolded parts. TOTAL staff. Including cleaning staff, admin staff, nurses, orderlies, psychologists... The most recent figures I can find for Prison Officers is here: http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2008/09/24/00548.asp - 1898 officers. So more like 1:2.2 ratio. In the UK, it was 1:2.9 in 2009. Your 1:50 figure in the US is not comparable, as it refers to officers on duty to inmates, whereas the Irish and UK figures refer to the total number of officers employed at any one timeWell based on those figures, its hardly total bull****. 1.2 to 1 roughly is still a disgrace.
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Go for it OP.
You seem to be forgetting one thing though.
In order to be sent to prison you need to be found guilty of a crime.
And as there is no such thing as a victimless crime you will also have plenty of time to think about that when you're locked up.
A conscience if free too.
And unlike your claim that prisoners have a choice of breakfast (ie take it or leave it), a clean conscience is something far more valuable.
If you can live with the knowledge that you have you have been unjust to others, then the cells of Mountjoy and Portlaoise are all yours.
Just so you know. I've dealt with prisoners who are in for non payment of fines relating to TV Licenses and parking on double yellow lines. I wouldn't class those people as 'without conscience'. Probably as victimless as it gets if OP wants to go that route 0 -
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celticcrash wrote: »I think I will Pack it in, the hole lot, job family mortgage bills pressure stress and the two week holidays to distress from the other 50 weeks in the year.
What will I get if I break the law?
A prison sentence as punishment not for punishment
+free 24 hours heating - Your alternative option being????
+free electricity - Your alternative option being????
+free doctor who can be seen daily - Your alternative option being????
+free perscriptions - Your alternative option being????
+free dentistry - Where I work he's in once a fortnight and you pray that you're lucky enough to get called!
+free a choice of breakfast - That's true actually, you can take it or leave it!!
+free a choice of dinner - As above
+free a choice of lunch or tea - ????? WTF
+free a prison officer visits cell and takes order for shops, also prison officer delivers my goods into my hand. - Again, where I work this is true - if you're in isolation, on medical obs or on punishment!!
+free bed sheets cleaned once a week for me - By other prisoners in the Prison Laundry :-)
+free gym membership - If you're one of the first 20 to the door. No swimming pools or saunas though. Sorry about that..
+free hospital bed - ?????? If you're in Hospital, I would presume so, yes.
+free alot more that I have not taught of.
Prisoners in Portloise prison and other category A prisoners around the country can sent out for takeaways each evening and have them delivered
to their cells. :eek:
Our ratio for prison officer/prisoner in Ireland is 1/1
In the USA its 1/50 Whoops... makey uppy numbers!!!
Yes thats right 50 times more prison officers in Ireland and very highly paid at that. Waaay overpaid. I'm promoted, work on the 'floor', dealing with all sorts of crap, in the job 'more than 10 but less than 20' years and take home less than 2 thirds of what my next door neighbour less than 10 years bus driver takes home. Not a problem, but don't tell me that I'm very highly paid!!
Their official name is prison officer but their duty is more carer, that panders to the prisoners needs. Admittedly some times it feels like that, but that's down to rules and regulations. Not the fault of the Officers. You should be there some time when the schwitt hits the fan though and you'll see how 'caring' they can be!!
Yes prison seems to be a viable lifestyle choice.That's total bullshit. At the end of 2010 there were 3,522 staff in the Irish Prison Service, including civilian grades and headquarters staff. The overall daily average number of prisoners in custody in 2010 was 4,290Well based on those figures, its hardly total bull****. 1.2 to 1 roughly is still a disgrace.
Those numbers have shrunk considerably since then (2010) Don't have up to date figures but there's been an embargo on recruitment and a raft of retirements - in particular up to last Februarys 'cut-off' date. This is also based on overall staff numbers as mentioned earlier. This includes admin staff, escort staff, search unit staff, Governors, clerks, kitchen and workshop staff. It's also 24/7 so there's back to back rosters (which straight away cuts each days average in half!!) as well as having nights and sometimes we take a few days holidays
When we're actually unlocking the landings at any stage the numbers of staff on the landings to numbers of prisoners on the landings ratio is nowhere near that!!! I'd love to give you an idea but I don't think that it's appropriate on here.
Regarding the OPs 'makey uppy' numbers : (USA Figures..)
3Inmate-to-staff ratios
Between 2000 and 2005, the number of inmates incarcerated in
state and federal facilities rose 10%, nearly 3 times faster
than the number of employees (up 3%) working in state and
federal facilities. The largest increase in inmate-to-staff
ratios occurred among federal facilities, from 3.4 to 1 in
2000 to 4.9 in 2005 (table 5). The largest increases in
inmate-to-staff ratios among facilities under state authority
occurred in Oklahoma, Arizona, and South Carolina (appendix
table 14). Among the few jurisdictions that reported a
decrease in their inmate-to-staff ratio during this period,
North Dakota reported the largest decrease, from 3.1 in 2000
to 2.3 in 2005.
Nationwide, the ratio of inmates-to-correctional officers
increased from 4.8 to 1 in 2000 to 5.1 in 2005. In both
federal prisons (10.3) and in facilities in Alabama (9.3),
the ratio of inmates-to-correctional officers was about twice
the national average.
The ratio of inmates-to-staff in community-based facilities
was 3.5 to 1 in 2005, down from 3.8 five years earlier.
Facilities in Alabama (8.1) had the highest ratio of
inmates-to-staff; South Dakota (1.6) had the lowest.
From this report : http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/ascii/csfcf05.txt0 -
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