Score Booklet Idea

tacofries · 25-01-2013 2:26pm #1

Hey guys,

I have cleared this with a mod so if you wouldn't mind reading the post and giving me your opinions pleeeeasseee!!!

My family is heavily involved with my local G.A.A. team and as a result I have come up with a solution for a common problem which is experienced at all G.A.A. matches that do not use a score board. I will keep this idea description as brief as possible.

At Gaa matches that do not use scoreboards, basically all underage matches, both supporters and management alike are always left wondering what the score is. People try to keep track of the score by drawing lines on a piece of paper or on their hand, but this often leads to both hassle and confusion. This problem is exemplified by my father who is the manager of a local team. He always keeps the score by drawing lines on his hand, yet when anyone asks him what the score is he has to first attempt to count up all the lines before finally telling them that he is not sure.

In order to fix this problem I made him a small booklet which allows the score to be easily kept while at the same time allowing the manager/supporters to keep a record of the teams performance during previous matches. I would like to print these booklets with the hope of the majority of Gaa clubs across the country using them.

The booklet itself is pocket-sized, and contains up to 16 pages with 4 numbered grids on each(2 grids for goals, 2 grids for points). When a score is taken the relevant numbered box on the grid is ticked thus enabling a fast and effective way of keeping the score. It can be used for both gaelic and hurley.

Do you think this idea would work? Would clubs buy it for their managers? Would those supporters interested in keeping the score buy it? Whats the best way to make the clubs aware of the score booklet? Would I be best selling the booklet directly to clubs, to sports shops or to €2 shops?

The booklet would sell for between €1-€2 due to printing costs, postage etc.

Thanks in advance for your replies,

cormac halpin · 25-01-2013 2:32pm

I've got an app for that.

bruschi · 25-01-2013 2:34pm

Being honest, I wouldnt think it would be a runner. Any manager who would do anything right should have a score counter of some sort on him, whether its getting someone else to keep scores or himself on a sheet of paper.

Plus, there is a free app for smart phones that keeps the score and time that is pretty handy.

Dont want to dampen your ambitions, as its always good to see people try come up with new ideas, but I couldnt really see someone paying for a notebook that they could easily sort out themselves.

Only my opinion mind, so best of luck with it whatever you do.

westsidestory · 25-01-2013 2:42pm

Might be a runner but most team have someone who have their system of just ticking off scores on a blank page. Having a 1-15 on both teams would be handy also for brief stats/comments. Page size an issue also !
What are the apps that you guys refer to ? Had one on my previous phone called GAA Scoreboard, was good and you can update to Twitter etc.
I like to update scores and tick off scorers as well, any app out there for that >

tacofries · 25-01-2013 2:45pm

bruschi wrote: »

Any manager who would do anything right should have a score counter of some sort on him, whether its getting someone else to keep scores or himself on a sheet of paper.

Plus, there is a free app for smart phones that keeps the score and time that is pretty handy.

He does have someone keeping the score on a piece of paper but using the line system. With the amount of moving he does he likes to keep the score himself aswell!

I wanted to make an app for it but I wouldn't be technologically able to make it and then decided a lot of the target market wouldn't have smart phones!

Thanks for the replies!

keane2097 · 25-01-2013 7:31pm

Could easily make a few quid with it but be a better idea to sell it to spectators who won't come prepared rather than managers who probably will. Much better off to do it locally as a proof of concept than to spend a lot of time and effort going after the big win at the start.

slievenamon fella · 25-01-2013 11:20pm

so basically your trying to sell something like what the referees have? which can be gotten a lot cheaper than what you intend to sell your item for

nice_guy80 · 25-01-2013 11:31pm

I think there would be a market for a simple GAA stats app

points
goals
from play/frees
wides play/frees

and then more advanced options
number of...
catches from kickouts
number of kickouts
kickpasses into forwards
blocks
turnovers
etc

there are plenty of apps for other sports, but nothing specific for GAA. And with GAA clubs spreading around the world, I think it would make a bit of money for the developer.

Stevecw · 25-01-2013 11:45pm

No, a booklet doing that won't work. Any eejit can get a bit of paper if needs be and write down the scores. An app on phones, already exists to do this for most of us...so can't see it working at all. A few years ago maybe, but not now

Clareman · 26-01-2013 1:09am

Personally I can't wait for the next game that I can't keep up to date with the score, a nice free flowing game would be great to see

The I was a ref I used to use the cross to keep a track of the score (top left and right goals, bottom left and right points), used to use squares of 5 to keep count, normally though I just kept track in my head. It's amazing how things change though, I remember a few years ago a scramble of the sideline between people to see "who'll keep the time" then not knowing how long was left or losing track of the time or the debate of whether it was a 30 or 35 minute game, I think my fetish of watches came from this

Also, you'd have the "lads, what's the score" which would be answered "we're 2 points down I think but we've missed a rake of chances"

tacofries · 26-01-2013 3:54am

slievenamon fella wrote: »

so basically your trying to sell something like what the referees have? which can be gotten a lot cheaper than what you intend to sell your item for

hi slieve,

could you possibly send me a link or number where i could get the booklet your refering too?

I thought refrees use lines to count the score!?

nice_guy80 · 26-01-2013 11:32am

tacofries wrote: »

hi slieve,

could you possibly send me a link or number where i could get the booklet your refering too?

I thought refrees use lines to count the score!?

there is a standard referees card.
county boards/provincial council supply a big pile of them to every referee at start of season
space to...
write team names
scores - points/goals
take names of players for warnings/yellow/red cards
subs on/off
start time of match
if teams were late on field
any indiscretions on sideline etc

nice_guy80 · 26-01-2013 11:34am

Stevecw wrote: »

No, a booklet doing that won't work. Any eejit can get a bit of paper if needs be and write down the scores. An app on phones, already exists to do this for most of us...so can't see it working at all. A few years ago maybe, but not now

What app is available for GAA matches?

bruschi · 26-01-2013 7:53pm

nice_guy80 wrote: »

What app is available for GAA matches?

GAA scoreboard. Paid app lets you post onto twitter as well.

nice_guy80 · 26-01-2013 10:13pm

bruschi wrote: »

GAA scoreboard. Paid app lets you post onto twitter as well.

does it do stats??

bruschi · 28-01-2013 9:16am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

does it do stats??

nope. in fairness, the computerised stat machines out on the market at the moment are pretty damn expensive, if someone was to come up with a full detailed stat counter on a smart phone I doubt it would come cheap, or even if it would be feasable to do.

68Murph68 · 29-01-2013 6:55pm

bruschi wrote: »

nope. in fairness, the computerised stat machines out on the market at the moment are pretty damn expensive, if someone was to come up with a full detailed stat counter on a smart phone I doubt it would come cheap, or even if it would be feasable to do.

have you any info on these computerised stat machines ?

Are they specific machines or are computer programs on laptops?

Cheers.

rkrkrk · 30-01-2013 12:06am

nice_guy80 wrote: »

does it do stats??

There's a free Android one that does some stats:

Android Mobile App - "GAA Hurling Manager". https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fm.matchstatsStore

bruschi · 30-01-2013 8:28am

68Murph68 wrote: »

have you any info on these computerised stat machines ?

Are they specific machines or are computer programs on laptops?

Cheers.

no, have damn all information. other than Jason Ryan getting them in Wexford and they cost thousands.

looder · 31-01-2013 7:25pm

rkrkrk wrote: »

There's a free Android one that does some stats:

Android Mobile App - "GAA Hurling Manager". https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fm.matchstatsStore

This looks good to keep training attendance anyway - I'll give it a go.

The best score keeping app is Score Track GAA. Way better than the GAA Scoreboard app which hasn't been update din God knows how long and I can't get it to connect to Twitter anymore. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.slegs.scoretrack.gaa&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5zbGVncy5zY29yZXRyYWNrLmdhYSJd

Here's another GAA Stats app - It looks good and I have it with ages but never used it. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.milfordgaa.sportsstar

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