North Korea plans third nuclear test - Warns the United States.

B.A._Baracus

Just saw this on BBC news. But here is a link to the online article BBC News:

In a statement carried by KCNA news agency, the top military body said the "high-level nuclear test" and more long-range rocket launches were aimed at its "arch-enemy", the US.

The statement gave no time-frame for the test. North Korea has conducted two nuclear tests, in 2006 and 2009.

The move comes two days after a UN Security Council resolution condemned Pyongyang's recent rocket launch.

The Security Council also expanded sanctions against the communist country following its December launch, which was seen by the US and North Korea's neighbours as a banned test of long-range missile technology.

North Korea said the rocket put a satellite into space.
'Ready'

The statement, which came from North Korea's National Defence Commission, hit out at the resolution as "illegal", before pledging a response.

"We do not hide that the various satellites and long-range rockets we will continue to launch, as well as the high-level nuclear test we will proceed with, are aimed at our arch-enemy the United States," KCNA quoted it as saying.

Recent reports from South Korean and US bodies which monitor North Korea's nuclear test sites have said North Korea could be preparing for a third test .......<click to read the rest>.......

Things are beginning to get hot it seems.

Its one thing for a nation to blatantly test weapons that could hit their enemies...But then to openly state that an upcoming test is solely designed to strike the heart of their enemy the united states. Not tagged with "only in defense" or any other crap. It really sends out a warning.

I don't agree that the United States are allowed to have nuclear weapons but other countries that don't already have them "are not allowed" - But it can be seen as a bit worrying when another country is developing them whilst sticking their middle finger out saying "this is for you, dont mess with us"


**edit***
the bbc just updated its article. So i'll edit that in...

A Primal Nut

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I don't agree that the United States are allowed to have nuclear weapons but other countries that don't already have them "are not allowed

For any leader of a country, one of the main foreign policy issues is to try to prevent your enemies getting nuclear weapons, if you are powerful enough. Its not a question of fairness.

B.A._Baracus

A Primal Nut wrote: »

For any leader of a country, one of the main foreign policy issues is to try to prevent your enemies getting nuclear weapons, if you are powerful enough. Its not a question of fairness.

Oh I know the reason behind the choice. Its the best defense. But at the same time by refusing other countries to do so, you can also create enemies.
But even apart from that the US and UN were moaning about Iran potentially making them.. but aint making too much of a ruckus against north korea. So I guess it comes down to "how big ones dick is" - proverbially of course

kneemos

Them Koreans be crazy.

Weathering

Stiff test for America if it ever came to war. The N Koreans are fanatical and would fight to the last man

kneemos

Weathering wrote: »

Stiff test for America if it ever came to war. The N Koreans are fanatical and would fight to the last man

A lot of them are malnourished and downtrodden if the chance to overthrow the regeime came along they might turn.

Weathering

kneemos wrote: »

A lot of them are malnourished and downtrodden if the chance to overthrow the regeime came along they might turn.

The army ain't malnorished. I get what your saying and I partly agree but they are brainwashed beyond belief. All their soldiers now were brought up with dictatorship they know nothing else. They're crazy

aaabbbb

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Just saw this on BBC news. But here is a link to the online article BBC News:



Things are beginning to get hot it seems.

Its one thing for a nation to blatantly test weapons that could hit their enemies...But then to openly state that an upcoming test is solely designed to strike the heart of their enemy the united states. Not tagged with "only in defense" or any other crap. It really sends out a warning.

I don't agree that the United States are allowed to have nuclear weapons but other countries that don't already have them "are not allowed" - But it can be seen as a bit worrying when another country is developing them whilst sticking their middle finger out saying "this is for you, dont mess with us"

Why can't we all just be friends ?!

4zn76tysfajdxp

This is just sabre-rattling from North Korea.

Seaneh

Weathering wrote: »

The army ain't malnorished.

Even in the last few years there have been reports of soldiers from the north risking minefields crossing the demilitarised zone to cross into the south because they were starving in their outposts.

Most of of the country is underfed, including the army.

ejmaztec

They must be looking for another hand-out. The Fat Leader's fridge must need a refill.

Weathering

Seaneh wrote: »

Even in the last few years there have been reports of soldiers from the north risking minefields crossing the demilitarised zone to cross into the south because they were starving in their outposts.

Most of of the country is underfed, including the army.

They're still able to fire a gun. every army has deserters

Zebra3

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I don't agree that the United States are allowed to have nuclear weapons but other countries that don't already have them "are not allowed" - But it can be seen as a bit worrying when another country is developing them whilst sticking their middle finger out saying "this is for you, dont mess with us"

I think it can be seen as "a bit worrying" when you allow 500,000 kids to die because of sanctions and then bomb the sh*t out of two countries.

Weathering wrote: »

The army ain't malnorished. I get what your saying and I partly agree but they are brainwashed beyond belief. All their soldiers now were brought up with dictatorship they know nothing else. They're crazy

As are American and British soldiers in Iraq "fighting for democracy". :rolleyes:

kneemos

Zebra3 wrote: »

I think it can be seen as "a bit worrying" when you allow 500,000 kids to die because of sanctions and then bomb the sh*t out of two countries.



As are American and British soldiers in Iraq "fighting for democracy". :rolleyes:

Don't think it's democracy they're fighting for plus they have a choice to join the army or not.

Weathering

kneemos wrote: »

Don't think it's democracy they're fighting for plus they have a choice to join the army or not.

He's being sarcastic man

crazygeryy

Karlie Flat Lap wrote: »

This is just sabre-rattling from North Korea.

it might be sabre rattling as you put it,but what if n. Korea actually aim and fire the thing at the usa.what then?
another war?

kneemos

Weathering wrote: »

He's being sarcastic man

Don't think he is,who knows?

Zebra3

kneemos wrote: »

Don't think it's democracy they're fighting for plus they have a choice to join the army or not.

It was announced as one of the reasons for the US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

kneemos

Zebra3 wrote: »

It was announced as one of the reasons for the US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Makes it sound good doesn't it,the Americans love their democracy.

Frank Black

Weathering wrote: »

The N Koreans are fanatical and would fight to the last man

You sound like you know what you're talking about.
How long did you serve in North Korea before coming over here?

bodice ripper

I have no problem with the US interfering with sovereign states, I just wish they would make better choices.


Should have done something about North Korea AGES ago....

intellectual dosser

Weathering wrote: »

They're still able to fire a gun. every army has deserters

I'd imagine that US civilians have armed themselves better than the North Korean army since Sandy Hook. A couple of million soldiers that are ill equipped will find it tough against a couple of tomahawk missiles. I think most of their ships are even incapable of going around the Korean peninsula. A war between the US and North Korea would be over in 10 minutes.

I wonder do they use the same courier to deliver their nuclear threats as they do to plea for aid?

kneemos

The Chinese might see it as an opportunity to side with the US and invade Korea to claim it as their own,"in the interest of world peace"

ejmaztec

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'd imagine that US civilians have armed themselves better than the North Korean army since Sandy Hook. A couple of million soldiers that are ill equipped will find it tough against a couple of tomahawk missiles. I think most of their ships are even incapable of going around the Korean peninsula. A war between the US and North Korea would be over in 10 minutes.

I wonder do they use the same courier to deliver their nuclear threats as they do to plea for aid?

A nuclear threat is their subtle way of begging for aid.

Lightbulb Sun

black francis wrote: »

You sound like you know what you're talking about.
How long did you serve in North Korea before coming over here?

Well, since the North Koreans are so brainwashed by the dictatorship I wouldn't disagree with his point.

Zebra3

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'd imagine that US civilians have armed themselves better than the North Korean army since Sandy Hook. A couple of million soldiers that are ill equipped will find it tough against a couple of tomahawk missiles. I think most of their ships are even incapable of going around the Korean peninsula. A war between the US and North Korea would be over in 10 minutes.

And how damage will be done to South Korea and Japan in those ten minutes? :rolleyes:

Boombastic

Fair play to them, bloody yanks need sortin'

intellectual dosser

Zebra3 wrote: »

And how damage will be done to South Korea and Japan in those ten minutes? :rolleyes:

You tell me? They have nuclear warheads of some description but nothing reliable to launch them with. The rest of their arsenal is completely bull**** - most of the stuff they parade is fake or so it would seem.

Is there something I'm missing? Whats going to wreak havoc in Japan or South Korea in a short space of time?

kneemos

Zebra3 wrote: »

And how damage will be done to South Korea and Japan in those ten minutes? :rolleyes:

They wouldn't use nukes obviously.

Kylo Ren

The glorious leader said 'lunch' not 'launch' you fools.

Principal Skinner

You're all hypocrites. Anyone with a half brain can see there's a big difference between the US or the UK having nuclear weapons and North Korea having nuclear weapons. You give out when the US impose sanctions, you give out when they send in the military, you give out when they don't send military (i.e. Syria).... At this stage no matter what the US do they get criticized.

I notice the French military fighting terrorists has gotten pretty much no negative criticism (and rightly so)

Boombastic

Principal Skinner wrote: »

You're all hypocrites. Anyone with a half brain can see there's a big difference between the US or the UK having nuclear weapons and North Korea having nuclear weapons. You give out when the US impose sanctions, you give out when they send in the military, you give out when they don't send military (i.e. Syria).... At this stage no matter what the US do they get criticized.

I notice the French military fighting terrorists has gotten pretty much no negative criticism (and rightly so)

what's the difference? USA only use them for good? :pac:

Principal Skinner

Boombastic wrote: »

what's the difference? USA only use them for good? :pac:

North Korea had fire them out of the blue at any country.... Incredibly unlikely that the US would do that

intellectual dosser

Principal Skinner wrote: »

You're all hypocrites. Anyone with a half brain can see there's a big difference between the US or the UK having nuclear weapons and North Korea having nuclear weapons. You give out when the US impose sanctions, you give out when they send in the military, you give out when they don't send military (i.e. Syria).... At this stage no matter what the US do they get criticized.

I notice the French military fighting terrorists has gotten pretty much no negative criticism (and rightly so)

Half this thread must be missing on my view - I'll contact boards.ie support.

Boombastic

Principal Skinner wrote: »

North Korea had fire them out of the blue at any country.... Incredibly unlikely that the US would do that

They're aiming them at the USA

ted1

There has only ever being one country on the world that launched 2 nuclear bombs against another.

Zebra3

intellectual dosser wrote: »

The rest of their arsenal is completely bull**** - most of the stuff they parade is fake or so it would seem.

Did you put that dossier together on Iraq? :rolleyes:

Deliverance XXV

BBC News wrote:

"We do not hide that the various satellites and long-range rockets we will continue to launch, as well as the high-level nuclear test we will proceed with, are aimed at our arch-enemy, the United States," KCNA quoted it as saying.

"Settling accounts with the US needs to be done with force, not with words," it added.

Seriously? What fcking time are they living in? How about they retract what money they spend on the military, spend it on their country's need and ahh, I dunno, give their people a chance?

Good to see China distancing themselves.

BBC News wrote:

Beijing - North Korea's closest ally and biggest trading partner - backed Tuesday's Security Council resolution, something which correspondents say will have angered its northern neighbour

intellectual dosser

Zebra3 wrote: »

Did you put that dossier together on Iraq? :rolleyes:

I guess I am easily lead to believe things - sure there was me thinking you were going to provide something yourself.

You going to tell us about the ten minutes of death for South Korea and Japan or just have a go at the way I put my posts?

BigFatGiant

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I think most of their ships are even incapable of going around the Korean peninsula. A war between the US and North Korea would be over in 10 minutes.

I think if it was only the N. Koreans they had to deal with the U.S. would have taken out Kim Jong Il or now the son long time ago. Its the N. Korean's friends Russia and China that they have always been afraid to piss off. Maybe Russia not so much anymore but China still has strong links with its fellow communist neighbours.

Principal Skinner

ted1 wrote: »

There has only ever being one country on the world that launched 2 nuclear bombs against another.

A country who was involved reluctantly in a war which had already caused the death of millions of people.... Japan were going to fight to literlally the last man. They had no concept of surrender. All they cared about was honour for their country and so regardless of what they were asked to do (kamakazi for example) they would do it.

The nuclear strikes helped to end the war quicker saving hundreds of thousands of japanese and US lives

kneemos

Principal Skinner wrote: »

A country who was involved reluctantly in a war which had already caused the death of millions of people.... Japan were going to fight to literlally the last man. They had no concept of surrender. All they cared about was honour for their country and so regardless of what they were asked to do (kamakazi for example) they would do it.

The nuclear strikes helped to end the war quicker saving hundreds of thousands of japanese and US lives

One might have done in fairness.

ejmaztec

kneemos wrote: »

One might have done in fairness.

Even after two some of them decided to attempt a coup because they didn't want to surrender, out and out fanatics.

intellectual dosser

BigFatGiant wrote: »

I think if it was only the N. Koreans they had to deal with the U.S. would have taken out Kim Jong Il or now the son long time ago. Its the N. Korean's friends Russia and China that they have always been afraid to piss off. Maybe Russia not so much anymore but China still has strong links with its fellow communist neighbours.

Fair point and very true. As the Chinese evolve into their weird hybrid version of communism they'll find it harder to support N Koreas actions - but maybe some time before they are willing to turn their backs on them.

BigFatGiant

Have a look at their national news agency website. http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm
Its like something from the early days of the world wide web. Not many unbiased storys or much praise for U.S. , S. Korea or Japan on it. Not to keen on photographs or the odd crossword either!!

Lightbulb Sun

Principal Skinner wrote: »

Y There's a big difference between the US or the UK having nuclear weapons and North Korea having nuclear weapons.

I notice the French military fighting terrorists has gotten pretty much no negative criticism (and rightly so)

Agreed on the first point.


For the second point there it's possible for this reason: I don't think the French are as well known as the US for invading and war crimes.

RobbieTheRobber

Lightbulb Sun wrote: »

Agreed on the first point.


For the second point there it's possible for this reason: I don't think the French are as well known as the US for invading and war crimes.

That all really depends on what area of french history you want to look at.
Their involvement in Algeria was less than polite and the Vichy government during WWII had some very questionable actions.

4zn76tysfajdxp

crazygeryy wrote: »

it might be sabre rattling as you put it,but what if n. Korea actually aim and fire the thing at the usa.what then?
another war?

Yeah, probably. I don't see it happening though.

greenheart

Anyone watch the vice documentary about N/S Korea, if not I'd advise you to watch it, interesting stuff.

Lightbulb Sun

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

That all really depends on what area of french history you want to look at.
Their involvement in Algeria was less than polite and the Vichy government during WWII had some very questionable actions.

Well recently, it's not much of a contest. Nagasaki, Agent Orange, My Lai Massacre in Vietnam, the war crimes in Iraq, drones in Pakistan, the Yugoslavia bombings in 99. I could go on.

Zebra3

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I guess I am easily lead to believe things - sure there was me thinking you were going to provide something yourself.

You going to tell us about the ten minutes of death for South Korea and Japan or just have a go at the way I put my posts?

Common sense would err on the side of caution.

After all, NK haven't really atacked anyone in the last 50 years, have they?

The US however have one helluva track record for attacking other countries and it's understandable that NK is warning them off.