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Using panel beating place to spray wood?

  • 23-01-2013 11:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭


    Looking for advice. We are in the middle of a renovation and are going to be replacing a good bit of woodwork. 150m of skirting, 100m of architraves, 20 window boards, stair spindles and a few panelled doors. I've a friend who has a professional car paint shop with ovens etc:). He has said that he would help me out but he hasn't sprayed wood before.
    What would he need to do if it's all just raw pine ? How many coats, what type of paint ? How would he finish it ?

    Also, we had the entire house (4 bed semi), walls and ceilings re-plastered and/or skimmed. This will need to be painted and he won't be able to help me there as he doesn't have a mobile unit. Would it be worth my while buying a compressor and spray gun and if so, should I just tackle the wood as well myself.
    I know it's a lot of questions but any advice much appreciated.:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Me again :D

    Hire in a sprayer, you cannot beat ceilings that have been spray finished, they look brilliant and they will last longer, but make sure the heavy end of the trades is finished. I normally did this when the plaster was dry but before the chippie and sparks did their final fix. Tape plastic bags or plastic around hanging wires so that you can easily spray around them
    You should first apply a well diluted mist coat to new plaster, then two or three coats, thickening the mix as you go and lightly sanding between coats. You can get sanding cloths (Scotch Pads, your auto guy will have them) which are great for sanding light dust off walls without marking the plaster.
    Finish the ceiling but I always liked to finish the walls with a roller, just putting the mist and first coats on with the sprayer.

    Look for an airless unit, where you put the feed into the drum of paint, not a pot and compressor system. Have a look at youtube for techniques used.
    You can't go far wrong on the misting coats, so use them to practise a good technique for finishing coats.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhePX0ygjy4


    edit: Threatening to shoot the sparkie if he marks the ceilings, helps too! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Barnseire wrote: »
    Looking for advice. We are in the middle of a renovation and are going to be replacing a good bit of woodwork. 150m of skirting, 100m of architraves, 20 window boards, stair spindles and a few panelled doors. I've a friend who has a professional car paint shop with ovens etc:). He has said that he would help me out but he hasn't sprayed wood before.
    What would he need to do if it's all just raw pine ? How many coats, what type of paint ? How would he finish it ?

    Also, we had the entire house (4 bed semi), walls and ceilings re-plastered and/or skimmed. This will need to be painted and he won't be able to help me there as he doesn't have a mobile unit. Would it be worth my while buying a compressor and spray gun and if so, should I just tackle the wood as well myself.
    I know it's a let's of questions but any advice much appreciated.:confused:
    It would be Cheaper to get a professional painter to do the whole lot for you. You could do an awful lot of damage to your house if you don't have windows taped off properly and there is a knack to spraying properly.

    If you don't have the paint thinned correctly or the correct pressure set on the pump, you will get lines or orange peel all over your walls and ceilings.

    Not to mention having a proper respirator. If your car sprayer has to ask what materials to use than I would not be getting him to do the job. Spraying cars and emulsion are two different trades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Barnseire


    Thanks for that. After the expense of the renovation, we're trying to keep the costs down, so I'd be trying to paint it myself. Are sprayers really hard to use? Would it make sense to hire for a day, try my hand on the utility room and if it goes OK, then hire for the remainder of the week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Barnseire wrote: »
    Thanks for that. After the expense of the renovation, we're trying to keep the costs down, so I'd be trying to paint it myself. Are sprayers really hard to use? Would it make sense to hire for a day, try my hand on the utility room and if it goes OK, then hire for the remainder of the week.
    Theres certainly a knack to them, you could do a lot of damage with overspray if you haven't masked up correctly. It will get everywhere.

    Is the house just a bare shell, or are you living in it while renovating?

    If your living in it I would recommend a brush and roller.

    Have you priced getting in a painter to spray it for you, with you supplying the materials can't imagine it would cost more than 3-400 to finish spray the ceilings and mist coat the walls!

    What part of the country are you in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Barnseire


    I certainly didn't think it would be that cheap. House is just a shell, no doors, no floor coverings etc and we're not in it, We're in Northside Dublin.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Barnseire wrote: »
    Looking for advice. We are in the middle of a renovation and are going to be replacing a good bit of woodwork. 150m of skirting, 100m of architraves, 20 window boards, stair spindles and a few panelled doors. I've a friend who has a professional car paint shop with ovens etc:). He has said that he would help me out but he hasn't sprayed wood before.
    What would he need to do if it's all just raw pine ? How many coats, what type of paint ? How would he finish it ?

    Also, we had the entire house (4 bed semi), walls and ceilings re-plastered and/or skimmed. This will need to be painted and he won't be able to help me there as he doesn't have a mobile unit. Would it be worth my while buying a compressor and spray gun and if so, should I just tackle the wood as well myself.
    I know it's a lot of questions but any advice much appreciated.:confused:


    Dilute white matt paint by 20% for freshly plastered ceilings and walls

    Get a 9-12inch short pile roller and extension pole...and away you go.

    You will fly through it.


    Then 2 coats of undiluted finish paint (your chosen colour).

    I was in the same position as you and myself and my girlfriend flew through painting our entire 4 bed rennovated/extended house ourselves.

    Had great craic doing it too.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Barnseire


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Dilute white matt paint by 20% for freshly plastered ceilings and walls

    Get a 9-12inch short pile roller and extension pole...and away you go.

    You will fly through it.


    Then 2 coats of undiluted finish paint (your chosen colour).

    I was in the same position as you and myself and my girlfriend flew through painting our entire 4 bed rennovated/extended house ourselves.

    Had great craic doing it too.:D

    Cheers Paddy, it doesnt sound as daunting now and may make a go of it ourselves. What did you do with the woodwork? Roll or brush. Did ya get any pre primed?


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