Mazda 6

dotsflan

Im hoping to go view this car Saturday http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-HB-T/31413504701948450/advert?channel=CARS

Can anyone advise me what I should look out for on these cars and what price can I expect to get it for, I am looking to trade in a 04 Nissan Almera against it. Many Thanks

advertsfox

dotsflan wrote: »

Im hoping to go view this car Saturday http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/Mazda6/1.8-HB-T/31413504701948450/advert?channel=CARS

Can anyone advise me what I should look out for on these cars and what price can I expect to get it for, I am looking to trade in a 04 Nissan Almera against it. Many Thanks

Snap - I traded my old Almera for my previous Mazda 6 2004 1.8 as well

All around, it's an excellent car - comfortable and smooth, lots of kit too but the 1.8 is a thirsty engine (I averaged about 25mpg). Do NOT buy the diesel version, it's renound for problems. The one you have linked, it's a bit pricey for a 2005 that doesn't even have alloys, keep looking around. Here's another one with a sunroof, spoiler, alloys, fogs, cruise control and a bigger engine that offers the same mpg. The model doesn't change from 2003 up to 2006 so don't pay for the extra digit.



Also, if you must go for at least a 2005 and a 1.8 - then choose this one with half the miles and NCT until 02/15.



One more, very similar to yours linked but has alloys and the nicer grey interior (I had that myself) with 20K less miles.

dotsflan

Cheers for the reposnse, is the MPG really that low? What kind of driving is that? I wouldnt do a lot of city or urban driving mainly open road. The one good thing about the almera is that it is quite frugal for a 1.5 petrol car (not too many other good points about it ). yeah i figured that one was a bit pricey

JohnBoy26

These cars have very poor rust protection underneath. If your buying one of these make sure you have a good look underneath especially at the rear around the chassis rails and around the arches. There is a thread here a about a mazda 6 http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056843876?page=3#post_82836409

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056843876&pp=15&page=3

advertsfox

dotsflan wrote: »

Cheers for the reposnse, is the MPG really that low? What kind of driving is that? I wouldnt do a lot of city or urban driving mainly open road. The one good thing about the almera is that it is quite frugal for a 1.5 petrol car (not too many other good points about it ). yeah i figured that one was a bit pricey

Well the majority of my driving was traffic in town (starting and stopping in low gears) but after a service and motorway driving, it went up about 10mpg. That's where the 2.0L might be more beneficial for you since it's more powerful and doesn't have to work as hard for the same mpg. Either way you go is a good choice (not diesel though).

Ardennes1944

There was a small facelift after 2005/06. Few nice touches and nicer interior along with a few tweaks to the 1.8 I think

bazz26

I'd also aim for the Touring/Exe or Exec Sport models as they have more standard equipement that the Comfort which was the entry level model.

There are also 2007 models going for relatively small money these days too.

Ardennes1944

Get a facelift exec or sport model, throw on some rx8 alloys and you have a beautiful, cheap and reliable motor

born2bwild

I have an 07 1.8 petrol with alloys and cruise control/multi function steering wheel....blah blah blah...
It devours gas mpg not sure but 40 litres gives me 450km range.
It's a lovely car though - I have driven 11k in 3 months - no problems at all.

MetzgerMeister

OP, forget about the one you're after and look into the 2 lovely ones that advertsfox posted. Much nicer looking IMO.

I had the MPS version (2.3 turbo) and I got around 23mpg so I think the 25mpg would be a bit off the wall, more like 30mpg.

dotsflan

Thanks for the replies......after taking advice from here, the one i was going to look at is definetly way overpriced and far better bargains to be had. Im a bit concerned with some of the mpg figures qouted though, my current car, the almera, is knocking out 40 + mpg on long runs so switching to the mazda would see me visiting the fuel station more regularly. Is the mazda 3 any better on fuel and is in anyway similar to the 6, i know there different classes but are they as reliable etc?? Once again thanks for all the info

JohnBoy26

dotsflan wrote: »

Thanks for the replies......after taking advice from here, the one i was going to look at is definetly way overpriced and far better bargains to be had. Im a bit concerned with some of the mpg figures qouted though, my current car, the almera, is knocking out 40 + mpg on long runs so switching to the mazda would see me visiting the fuel station more regularly. Is the mazda 3 any better on fuel and is in anyway similar to the 6, i know there different classes but are they as reliable etc?? Once again thanks for all the info

If you are concerned about fuel economy id forget the Mazda 6. They are very heavy on fuel.

JohnBoy26

For fuel efficiency something like this is the way to go. It will probably cost a bit more to maintain though. http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4355245

glic71rods46t0

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If you are concerned about fuel economy id forget the Mazda 6. They are very heavy on fuel.

Simply not true. I have a 2004 1.8 petrol and get approx 40mpg - similar to my previous car a 1.4 Ford Focus

JohnBoy26

da1z6b842tqynu wrote: »

Simply not true. I have a 2004 1.8 petrol and get approx 40mpg - similar to my previous car a 1.4 Ford Focus

I think you'l find they do closer to 30mpg and on a long journey slightly more. My corolla does around 40mpg and it's way easier on fuel than the Mazda 6.

bazz26

To be fair it is hard to expect a car that is bigger and heavier than a Nissan Almera to return similar type fuel consumption figures. The 6 will return low 30mpgs which is normal for a car of that size.

advertsfox

bazz26 wrote: »

To be fair it is hard to expect a car that is bigger and heavier than a Nissan Almera to return similar type fuel consumption figures. The 6 will return low 30mpgs which is normal for a car of that size.

It's a heavy car so I think the 2.0 would be more suited because it doesn't have to work as hard for the same mpg and more grunt.

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

OP, forget about the one you're after and look into the 2 lovely ones that advertsfox posted. Much nicer looking IMO.

I had the MPS version (2.3 turbo) and I got around 23mpg so I think the 25mpg would be a bit off the wall, more like 30mpg.

Yeah I posted I got another 10mpg on top of 25mgp on normal driving, motorway cruising speeds - forgot to also mention I had a performance air filter and a heavy foot

trabpc

advertsfox wrote: »

It's a heavy car so I think the 2.0 would be more suited because it doesn't have to work as hard for the same mpg and more grunt.

Yeah I posted I got another 10mpg on top of 25mgp on normal driving, motorway cruising speeds - forgot to also mention I had a performance air filter and a heavy foot

Bought an 06 sports touring today for 4k with 128k on it. Mostly motorway ill report mpg next week. Hoping for 35 if kept at 100kph

gerardk55

Best of luck with it trabpc. I have a '05 1.8 sports touring and currently getting about 35mpg with a lot of motorway mileage with the cruise control set around 120km/h.

Fuel economy is the one draw back as otherwise it's a fantastic car, comfortable and reliable currently up to 356,000kms with no major issues to date.

Tabnabs

Only in Ireland do we mix mpg and km/h

(my 1.8 petrol 6 gets 8.2L/100km mixed urban and motorway driving)

MugMugs

Tabnabs wrote: »

Only in Ireland do we mix mpg and km/h

Ah god ! Who isn't guilty of that.

I suppose we are all so used to MPG. I still think in Miles tbh.

gerardk55

I guess since all the rest of my post was metric I should have stated 8.1l/100km, but mpg was mentioned throughout the rest of the post.

For some reason I have a better grasp of mpg vs the l/100km equivalent, maybe it's a sign of age!

careful_now

I had a Nissan Almera too! Bought a 06 Mazda 6 sport 7 months ago. I definitely notice a difference in fuel consumption. Really nice car to drive though, very comfortable. That car in the link seems overpriced to me though.

trabpc

Sorry yea more of an MPG Man.

Maybe my age! but ill always convert to miles and MPG.

L/100km is for young fellas!!!



This is my 1st car with KM as all others were imported. why o why did they remove the mph from the 05+ cars.

Why not kph in large on speedo with Mph small-Opposite of old way.

I have reason to drive in UK and North where miles still exist!

trabpc

Ok I drove 359.3 km over last 3 days. Some in local town and secondary roads. Today I drove up N7 from Portlaoise direction toward Lusk and small amout of driving on long mille rd and back out of city. Car was brimmed Monday with petrol before trip. But I got a surprising result. ..

Total km covered was 359.3 km. I filled car again to see how she done. I left it on cruise at just under 100 on motorway. I don't see speed limits as targets!

Anyone want to guess Mpg she done. Little surprised. Ill post pics and receipt to show more.

trabpc

Receipt

trabpc

Clock

trabpc

My maths are 359.3 km = 223 miles

Took 22.97 litres = 5.05 gallons.

223/5.05= 44.15 mpg

For the l/km people thats 22.97/359.3*100= 6.39 l/km

Trip comp showed 6.3 so seems accurate enough. But I rarly trust them.

Not bad for a 1.8

BMJD

That's pretty good going. We have the outgoing model 1.8 petrol and average 7.9 l/100km (36mpg) but the majority of journeys are <5km with the odd motorway run.

trabpc

To be Fair I kept it on Cruise just below 100KPH (2600 rpm) but this is typical of most my Journeys.

If you go above 100KPH the RPM goes 3000+ this is why most posters are not seeing above mid 30's. again I don't see the speed limit as a target like some do. On my journey from Lusk to Portlaoise (about 140 kilometers) last night my Sat-Nav told me my ETA was 11.20pm, I arrived at 11.26pm so only 6 minutes longer.

M1 was mostly 80 kPH or 100KPH limit, M50 is 100KPH limit. N7 to Nass is 100kph so really it was only from Naas to Portlaoise where I lost time as this sections limit goes up to 120KPH.

My Previous 1.8tdci Mondeo(huge Car) only returned 47/48 Mpg at 110 KPH Cruise.

Very happy with car. Mich nicer to drive in Town than the Mondeo-mind you the Mondeo had the better drive on the motorway.

advertsfox

That's excellent for a 1.8, just goes to show how much you can improve your MPG with a gently foot and cruise control - nice!

who_ru

Hi Lads,

on the subject of the 6 - what do you make of the one linked ? spoke to the dealer on the wolf tone yesterday and he said he'd want 12k for it, with no trade in. seems a bit much to me, was hoping for 10.5-11k.

any thoughts?

http://tinyurl.com/bze6duf

trabpc

Don't know much about the newer model. Id say engine is much the same as previous model. Id say you could probably get an 07 new shape for about 5-6k. The pre 08's are unwanted in the current 2008 + and diesel madness climate.

2 x 08's easily bargain down to 7 grand

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4497028


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4503535

The Sparrow

Just curious what ppl think of this 05 Mazda 6 with 39000 miles for €3,999.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4505818

I might go up and have a look at it tomorrow as I'm in the market for a similar car since some guy crashed into my 99 Mazda 323. The insurance wouldn't fix it as it would cost more than the car was worth

But I think this looks really good. Anything I need to look out for other than potential rusting underneath the car?

Also, my previous mazda was a 1.5l but this is 1.8l. Will that mean that it will cost a lot more to run petrol wise? I realise that the insurance may rise a bit and the tax will jump to €636.

BMJD

who_ru wrote: »

Hi Lads,

on the subject of the 6 - what do you make of the one linked ? spoke to the dealer on the wolf tone yesterday and he said he'd want 12k for it, with no trade in. seems a bit much to me, was hoping for 10.5-11k.

any thoughts?

http://tinyurl.com/bze6duf

Decent looking spec on it, leather + sunroof must be quite rare here. The 18" wheels have quite a harsh ride though, give it a good long test drive to make sure you're ok with that. They do look good on it though, the usual trade-off

I'm not too sure about the price either though, it is at the high-end of the scale for a petrol with high-ish tax.

JohnBoy26

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just curious what ppl think of this 05 Mazda 6 with 39000 miles for €3,999.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4505818

I might go up and have a look at it tomorrow as I'm in the market for a similar car since some guy crashed into my 99 Mazda 323. The insurance wouldn't fix it as it would cost more than the car was worth

But I think this looks really good. Anything I need to look out for other than potential rusting underneath the car?

Also, my previous mazda was a 1.5l but this is 1.8l. Will that mean that it will cost a lot more to run petrol wise? I realise that the insurance may rise a bit and the tax will jump to €636.

When checking for rust make sure you have a really good look underneath the back of the car.

MuppetCheck

I'd be checking past nct certs at that mileage. If it's been used about town then mileage would not be a major sway on my decision. Try and find out some history on it

Senna

The Sparrow wrote: »

Just curious what ppl think of this 05 Mazda 6 with 39000 miles for €3,999.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4505818

I might go up and have a look at it tomorrow as I'm in the market for a similar car since some guy crashed into my 99 Mazda 323. The insurance wouldn't fix it as it would cost more than the car was worth

But I think this looks really good. Anything I need to look out for other than potential rusting underneath the car?

Also, my previous mazda was a 1.5l but this is 1.8l. Will that mean that it will cost a lot more to run petrol wise? I realise that the insurance may rise a bit and the tax will jump to €636.

That's a UK import, just encase you didn't know. A motor check on it before purchase would be money well spent.

I went to look at a UK import last week, very badly rusted underneath. These cars are know for rust and if its spent most of its life in the UK it will have more rust than the equivalent Irish car.
But the car linked has very low mileage so might be fine.

JohnBoy26

Senna wrote: »

That's a UK import, just encase you didn't know. A motor check on it before purchase would be money well spent.

I went to look at a UK import last week, very badly rusted underneath. These cars are know for rust and if its spent most of its life in the UK it will have more rust than the equivalent Irish car.
But the car linked has very low mileage so might be fine.

Not necessarily, while many uk cars do have more rust than Irish cars, many are also garaged all their life and have rarely seen a salted road due to their elderly owners being too cautious to drive in those conditions. The paintwork and bodywork are also usually in much better condition on many uk cars than their Irish counterparts.

Usually the more rust ridden cars come from the north of england and scotland.

JohnBoy26

Senna wrote: »

That's a UK import, just encase you didn't know. A motor check on it before purchase would be money well spent.

I went to look at a UK import last week, very badly rusted underneath. These cars are know for rust and if its spent most of its life in the UK it will have more rust than the equivalent Irish car.
But the car linked has very low mileage so might be fine.

Also you are incorrect, that car is not a UK import, It's an Irish car.

Senna

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Also you are incorrect, that car is not a UK import, It's an Irish car.

2005 HB with MPH clocks? Maybe your right.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Not necessarily

Well you can never say 100%, but the facts still remain. Mazda 6's are known for rust. The UK uses more salt on their roads. Just be more wary of UK Mazda 6's regarding rust.

JohnBoy26

Senna wrote: »

Well you can never say 100%, but the facts still remain. Mazda 6's are known for rust. The UK uses more salt on their roads. Just be more wary of UK Mazda 6's regarding rust.

Be wary of any Mazda 6 regarding rust be it a UK or an Irish car. The one in the link is not a UK car though as you have said. As I already said above, It's an Irish car.

JohnBoy26

Senna wrote: »

2005 HB with MPH clocks? Maybe your right.

I see the mph clocks which is odd, because going by the numbers on the reg im nearly 100% sure it's Irish.

Senna

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I see the mph clocks which is odd, because going by the numbers on the reg im nearly 100% sure it's Irish.

Wouldn't know from the numbers myself, but for some reason, most of the HB's I've seen advertised have all be UK cars. The one I went to look at last week was 05 DL 3**, low number so figured it was Irish, got there an it was UK but whoever imported it must have bought one of the held-back plates.

JohnBoy26

Senna wrote: »

Wouldn't know from the numbers myself, but for some reason, most of the HB's I've seen advertised have all be UK cars. The one I went to look at last week was 05 DL 3**, low number so figured it was Irish, got there an it was UK but whoever imported it must have bought one of the held-back plates.

I just tought there if you type the reg into motorcheck it tells you if the car is a UK import. The mazda in this thread is showing to be an Irish car as I predicted. https://www.motorcheck.ie/free-car-check/05d37223/

trabpc

Looks to be a pre facelift 05 with no steering wheel controls . So no cruise control. No ac either as its a base model. All your buying is 18 alloys which will be a harsh ride. Mine a sports touring 06 wiht good few toys and luckily only 16 alloys. Much better drive.

BMJD

There were still plenty of un-reg'd 04 spec cars (of many makes) in stock in early 2005, hence the mph clocks.

The Sparrow

trabpc wrote: »

Looks to be a pre facelift 05 with no steering wheel controls . So no cruise control. No ac either as its a base model. All your buying is 18 alloys which will be a harsh ride. Mine a sports touring 06 wiht good few toys and luckily only 16 alloys. Much better drive.

It says both cruise control and air con in the car spec:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4505818

2 KEYS FRESH NCT 2015 COMES WITH A WARRANTY SUPER CAR SUPER PRICE A MUST SEE IN BA CARS. IE BARGAIN BUY AT 3999 LOW MILEAGE HATCHBACK, Air Conditioning, Central Locking, CD Player, Perfect working order, Electric Windows, ABS Brakes, Airbag, Cruise Control, Electric Mirrors, Immobiliser, Power Steering, Multi-function steering wheel, Metallic Paint, Multiple Air Bags, Anti-Theft System, 3 month warranty, Brand New Tyres, Remote Central Locking 05 (2005)

JohnBoy26

trabpc wrote: »

Looks to be a pre facelift 05 with no steering wheel controls . So no cruise control. No ac either as its a base model. All your buying is 18 alloys which will be a harsh ride. Mine a sports touring 06 wiht good few toys and luckily only 16 alloys. Much better drive.

You could always pic up a set of 16 inch alloy wheels for it easily enough and then sell on the 18s.

I think those mazda have a harsh enough ride quality no matter what wheels are on them.

The Sparrow

Went up to see it today. Not for me. It looked pretty good but as somebody said earlier it was the earlier version and there was no sign of cruise control.

Also, I'm quite tall and the back of the seat was just not right for me. It seemed quite low down so instead of my shoulders resting on it, it was the top of my back and not very comfortable. Took it for a quick run anyway and I wasn't massively impressed with the ride. It didn't seem very smooth and I wasn't mad about the gear change. But that may have all been because I wasn't comfortable in the seat.

Are the newer model 05s any bigger inside or is it pretty much the same cabin and seats?

I checked under the back and there was definite rust on the back axel. Nothing too major but definite spots of dark rust.

JohnBoy26

The Sparrow wrote: »

Went up to see it today. Not for me. It looked pretty good but as somebody said earlier it was the earlier version and there was no sign of cruise control.

Also, I'm quite tall and the back of the seat was just not right for me. It seemed quite low down so instead of my shoulders resting on it, it was the top of my back and not very comfortable. Took it for a quick run anyway and I wasn't massively impressed with the ride. It didn't seem very smooth and I wasn't mad about the gear change. But that may have all been because I wasn't comfortable in the seat.

Are the newer model 05s any bigger inside or is it pretty much the same cabin and seats?

I checked under the back and there was definite rust on the back axel. Nothing too major but definite spots of dark rust.

Yes the ride is quiet poor on them even with 15inch steelies you can feel every bump on the road. You are also correct about the gearchange it's very notchy in them imo particularly when going into third gear.

As for the rust. A bit on the axle is no harm but these have a habit of rusting on the rear chassis rails(the box sections on either side of the spare wheel well) and in around the axle area on the body.

They are a very overrated car on boards imo.