yale wireless alarm upgrade

Beaver1

I have a Yale wireless alarm but the control panel is faulty, does anyone know were I can purchase a hsa-6400 control panel only, I don't need the bell or contacts
Thanks

KoolKid

Everywhere seems to only sell it in kit form from what I can see.
What devices have you got on that system?
You may get a decent Visonic or HKC kit for the same cost.

Thunderbird2

You could try eBay or adverts . But to he honest they are a horrible system and I agree with koolkid in regards to HKC or Visonic . how long do you have the system ?

Thunderbird2

For the same price you could go onto eBay and order a ge simon xt with loads of sensors ( much better panel then the Yale) The only problem would be finding a suitable plug as its from the states

Beaver1

KoolKid wrote: »

Everywhere seems to only sell it in kit form from what I can see.
What devices have you got on that system?
You may get a decent Visonic or HKC kit for the same cost.

I have 4 single contact wndows, I entry, I back door and then I have 3 windows that have the looped system, (did I explain last part correct), how can I tell what model number yale I have I cant seem to see it written anywere. I know its a 6000 model but dont know which one

Thunderbird2

Post a picture of the bell , panel & sensors and il tell you :-)
I don't understand the last part
Does it ring you ?

Beaver1

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

Post a picture of the bell , panel & sensors and il tell you :-)
I don't understand the last part
Does it ring you ?

yeah it calls phone numbers when it goes off. its the very same layout as the hsa6400, the contact on the 3 windows is a long contact and then an ordinary window contact for 3 open windows are wired into it, does this make more sense.

this is what the contact looks like

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/YALE-WIRELESS-ALARM-MAG-DETECTOR-REPLACEMENT-BATTERY-PACK-FOR-HSA-3020-3000-/290767127550?pt=UK_Burglar_Alarms&hash=item43b31243fe

Thunderbird2

Is it this guy ? They've been discontinued for years
According to Yale your systems sensors should be able to work with the HSA6400 panel. Although I'd advise to move away from Yale .
Have a look at
HKC
Siemens
GE simon xt
Visonic

Beaver1

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

Is it this guy ? They've been discontinued for years
According to Yale your systems sensors should be able to work with the HSA6400 panel. Although I'd advise to move away from Yale .
Have a look at
HKC
Siemens
GE simon xt
Visonic

the outdoor siren looks like the one in the photo but the control panel is a hsa 6000 model, I think its an early one,if I change from yale it would mean replacing all the window and door conectors as well, that would make any of the above too expensive

were can you buy the GE simon xt.

KoolKid

Yes, if you change the panel you would need to change all the device's as well.
Take a look at the suppliers sticky. Most in there would supply . Simon panels etc.
I would recommend Visonic or HKC quantum over GE Simon..

Thunderbird2

sorry if I've confused you . Your Yale sensors will only work with Yale panels .
You cannot buy Yale panels seperatly in shops.
You'll have to check adverts or eBay for panels not in kit form . You're stuck with Yale unless you upgrade everything or buy another Yale kit . That's the downside to them and that if a window is smashed you're relying on the PIR motions to detect intruders.


Is it this panel :-)

Thunderbird2

This is the ge simon xt
But you'll have to order it on eBay as only eircom phonewatch can get it ( the older version )
This is the newer version
The touch pad can be powered via batteries or a 9v transformer
The main system will require a transformer that you'll have to source seperatly ( electronic repair shop ect )

Beaver1

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

sorry if I've confused you . Your Yale sensors will only work with Yale panels .
You cannot buy Yale panels seperatly in shops.
You'll have to check adverts or eBay for panels not in kit form . You're stuck with Yale unless you upgrade everything or buy another Yale kit . That's the downside to them and that if a window is smashed you're relying on the PIR motions to detect intruders.


Is it this panel :-)

yeap that is the control panel

Thunderbird2

Before you decide anything what exactly is wrong with the panel ? If its the internal battery they can be got on eBay cheaply from the UK . Have you tried resetting it ?
Remove the power and turn off the battery switch . If that doesn't work try a complete system reset

Beaver1

Thunderbird2 wrote: »

Before you decide anything what exactly is wrong with the panel ? If its the internal battery they can be got on eBay cheaply from the UK . Have you tried resetting it ?
Remove the power and turn off the battery switch . If that doesn't work try a complete system reset

gone completly dead, even with the power cable in, Ill try that, how would I know what model it is, its not written on the back or in the display.

Thunderbird2

It's the Yale HSA6400
Is the outside bell not going off with the panel dead ?
is the socket the the transformer is plugged into working ? Try another socket
If that doesn't work open up the panel and check for fuses and check that the battery inside it isn't faulty