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Accessing a paper

  • 19-01-2013 5:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭


    Can anybody help me out here, I am trying to access a paper that used to be freely available on the web, but I can't find it anymore.

    The thing is I have a hard copy in one of my books but I can't remember who has my copy at the moment.

    I an terribe at searching the net, the name of the paper is Lacanian Resources for Organisational Consulting by Mark Bracher. As there are a few Lacanians here, is anyone familiar with this paper and do they know where I could access it on the web.

    Its a long shot but I said I would ask just in case.

    Cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Not available on Google Scholar anyway, although it is cited in a good few papers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Not available on Google Scholar anyway, although it is cited in a good few papers.

    Thanks for that. What is the story with google scholar? Do you need to sign up as a member? Sorry I'm sh!te at things like that:o

    I'm in charge of trying to develop a professional development group/forum in work and I was hoping to use that paper for something.

    I'll have to keep searching, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    I spent some time looking for it last night (and I'm pretty good at finding papers) and concluded that it is only currently available to members of the International Society for the Psychoanalytic Study of Organizations.

    It wasn't available in Google scholar (just a version of Google search which limits the search to academic journals, similar to Google image search. Usually you need institutional library access to read the full papers)


    It wasn't on Bracher's own university web page. It wasn't to be found currently existing on any site anywhere other than the ISPSO site which you needed to be a member of to read it. It used to be on the Oakland University website (which is probably where you came across it before online), but it has been removed from it now.


    So I used a programme called the Wayback Machine to go back in time to see if it were indexed from the Oakland Site at any point. The Wayback Machine let's you glimpse websites as they existed in the past. But it is a bit hit and miss. Luckily the page which the paper was indexed in 2006 and you can read it here:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20050307104644/http://www.sba.oakland.edu/ispso/html/bracher.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Cheers Hotspur, I used to get it on line all the time. I don't know how many times I printed it out for students etc. As I said I should have a hard copy of it as well it was in a book called What is a Group.

    Anyway, that looks like a good web site you used to find it. I must try improve my searching abilities as I'm going to have to put a list of resourses together for this group. Thanks again


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Thanks for that. What is the story with google scholar? Do you need to sign up as a member? Sorry I'm sh!te at things like that:o

    A registration/fee prompt will likely only come up for certain articles, if you need to get them in full it's usually around $35 or something like that. Handy for some quick research if you're a student (I know you're not) as you can just save the journal details and then do a check via your college library log in. It's similar to normal Google with key words and so on, but you can limit your search to specific years if you want. Might be worth creating a Google Alert for any topics you've a professional interest in. There can be a lot of rubbish on it, but now and then, there's a gem.

    Would a polite email to him be out of line?

    Not sure if the full thing can be retrieved even if you register here.

    http://library.ispso.org/library/lacanian-resources-organizational-consulting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    A registration/fee prompt will likely only come up for certain articles, if you need to get them in full it's usually around $35 or something like that. Handy for some quick research if you're a student (I know you're not) as you can just save the journal details and then do a check via your college library log in. It's similar to normal Google with key words and so on, but you can limit your search to specific years if you want. Might be worth creating a Google Alert for any topics you've a professional interest in. There can be a lot of rubbish on it, but now and then, there's a gem.

    Would a polite email to him be out of line?

    Not sure if the full thing can be retrieved even if you register here.

    http://library.ispso.org/library/lacanian-resources-organizational-consulting


    Cheers, Hotspur found the full text so I am sorted for now. Thanks for the info on google I will have to become more useful with that stuff.

    I just re-did some basic training the HSE Library offer, so hopefully that will help me a bit.

    I still have to get my Athens password sorted, I got one before, never used it and now it has expired.


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