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Who's You Ma.

  • 17-01-2013 10:44pm
    #1
    Think_then_talk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭


    Adoption in Ireland, Who is YOUR MA ? Depament of Social Protection. Gandon House Amiens St. Dublin 1. PSC Center Ground Floor,Gandon House. Dublin 1.
    Here i go, Lost my job, went to Dept of Social Proection, handed in my ID passport + birthcert, {PPS} P40 ect,only to be told that my ID was of no use,They want to know my Mothers Birth Name....? Now I'm an Adoped Person. Please How Can Any Person whom has been Adoped in the Irish State Answer This.
    My Birth Cert , Passport, are of no use and I'm Irish I think. 48 years of age.
    For After Hours... Joan Burton Who's Your Mother.


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  • #2
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Can you not just explain that you are adopted or use your adopted parents name if they are your registered legal parents? How did you get your passport if this is a problem? That's harder to do than getting social services stuff done, you can't get one without a completely valid birth certificate.

    I'm not adopted but according to my birth certificate I don't have a mother (clerical error) meaning that my birth cert was apparently legally invalid, and since my mother is English it was a pain in the arse to get it all sorted when I went to get my own passport for the first time. Once I got the first one though the paperwork was all good from then on.


  • #3
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    My ma?


  • #4
    Think_then_talk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Think_then_talk


    orestes wrote: »
    Can you not just explain that you are adopted or use your adopted parents name if they are your registered legal parents? How did you get your passport if this is a problem? That's harder to do than getting social services stuff done, you can't get one without a completely valid birth certificate.

    I'm not adopted but according to my birth certificate I don't have a mother (clerical error) meaning that my birth cert was apparently legally invalid, and since my mother is English it was a pain in the arse to get it all sorted when I went to get my own passport for the first time. Once I got the first one though the paperwork was all good from then on.

    No.
    I was Legally Adopted.
    http://tinyurl.com/av2nxf2


  • #5
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Think_then_talk wrote: »
    No.
    I was Legally Adopted.

    Ok, how did you get your passport? Should everything else not follow from that?


  • #6
    Think_then_talk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Think_then_talk


    orestes wrote: »
    Ok, how did you get your passport?
    With that birth cert {short form}.

    I'm not the only person like this.
    mikedublin wrote: »
    Hi



    Just wondering if anyone would have any suggestions on ways to appeal a decision not to issue me a PPSN card by the local Social welfare office.



    I have an unusual situation in that although I'm born in Ireland and have a full Irish passport, PPS number and am obviously an Irish citizen, I was adopted as a baby back in the late 1960's and so only have whats commonly called a "short form" of my birth certificate which just shows my name and date of birth, along with a certificate of adoption in the adopted childrens register which shows my adopted parents names. I had applied for the PPSN card and explained everything and provided all the other required documents - passport, proof of address etc. But they are refusing to issue me a PPSN card saying I need to provide a birth cert with my birth mothers name. (I don't know this and to be honest I don't want to know as my adopted parents are the only ones I had).
    I've tried repeatedly to solve this , e-mailing and trying to call them but am having no luck at all.
    I have also tried to get this birth cert they require (with my birth mothers name on it), but I have run into similar problems with the registrars as they seem to need to know her name before they can get the certificate. So I'm kind of in a catch 22 situation.
    Would anyone know of any central place I can get help with this ? Thanks very much for any suggestions or advice


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  • #7
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Think_then_talk wrote: »
    With that birth cert {short form}.

    So you have a passport, a birth cert. and a PPS number, shouldn't that make you a fully paper-worked up citizen? If all of your paperwork is in order with your legal mothers name on it, why do they want to know your birth mothers name?

    Edit: Just saw the other post you copied in, this looks like it's pretty serious and technical stuff, you should probably try the state benefits forum to be honest.


  • #8
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    orestes wrote: »
    So you have a passport, a birth cert. and a PPS number, shouldn't that make you a fully paper-worked up citizen? If all of your paperwork is in order with your legal mothers name on it, why do they want to know your birth mothers name?

    Edit: Just saw the other post you copied in, this looks like it's pretty serious and technical stuff, you should probably try the state benefits forum to be honest.

    because the computer said so


  • #9
    Think_then_talk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Think_then_talk


    orestes wrote: »
    So you have a passport, a birth cert. and a PPS number, shouldn't that make you a fully paper-worked up citizen? If all of your paperwork is in order with your legal mothers name on it, why do they want to know your birth mothers name?

    Edit: Just saw the other post you copied in, this looks like it's pretty serious and technical stuff, you should probably try the state benefits forum to be honest.
    Thank's Orestes.
    After Hours,
    Who's your MA ?.


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