Is this a scam???

mdlb

Ok,
I may be being paranoid but something about this just seems a bit fishy!

currently have my car up for sale on Carzone/done deal etc and got an email asking about the price.
Replyed to this and then got an email back sayingthat he wanted to buy the car but would pay by bank draft..... (begin getting suspicious)
next I ask "do you not want to look at the car??".... (more suspicion)

He replys, No I have seen the pictures and want to buy the car. can you send your address etc so that I can send payment.

He claims that he will organise shipping.

I have told him that I will not release the car until payment has cleared and he has still replied that he wants to buy the car.


Am I being paranoid or is this a scam, ever happened to anybody on here??

My head is telling me to run a mile!!!

meoklmrk91

Smells like ****, I'd run in other direction.

vandriver

Fake foreign bank draft,will take weeks for the bank to get back to you,whilst your car is long gone.

meercat

It's a scam
Ignore any more contact

mdlb

Just as I suspected!!

shawnee

Yeah , they seem to be following donedeal

miss-bored

Got similar responses after putting my car on carzone a few years back. I was aware it was scam but I was so curious I said I'd respond once. They must think we are awfully thick! Here is his reply: Obv I went no further on this transaction!!

Hello.
Thanks for the quick reply,i am happy is still available for sale, the price is ok,, please reserve it for me and take off the advert from the internet because i am making payment immediately. i am making the purchase for my daughter as a wedding gift. she is getting married in Europe soon.

Due to distance barrier and my tight schedule / programms and to avoid additional cost,is not advisable to come phisically to test it before payment,but i am ok with the details on the advert and i am paying for it as discribed and i accept that you sell it to me at no warrantee or Guarantee.

Regarding payment,i will instruct my client in EUROPE who owe me and agree to pay me via a cover cash cheque of ( 15,000 pounds )from his active british account to issue you the money for the payment, this money is for your payment and shipping cost because i am not in europe presently, i just relocated to Philipines for contract job .

The cheque my client will send to you for the payment is a certified covered cheque (cash check) which can be exchanged, confirmed and cashed in any post office, bank or finance institute in Denmark, Austria, Germany, Sweden, and any country in europe in 3 days,he use to pay me with it while in Europe.

All you have to do when you get the cheque is to take it to your bank or any finance institute for depositing, cashing and exchange, as soon as the money is credited on your account, deduct your payment which is 13,400 EURO ),

The remainder of the money is for the shipping cost. you will assist me transfer it to the freight forwarding company agent that i am yet to contact, he will handle the pick up and shipping after you deducted your payment and all bank charges. i will provide you all details and instructions you need to get the shipping done.

He also will sign on my behalf as my representative all document including change of ownership he will transport it alongside my other medical iterms i already purchase in Denmark, he will take care of all export documents so dn't worry about this. i will provide you all required details and instructions when you receive the money and have deducted your payment. i do hope i can trust you with this transaction,i would have done this myself but i am not in EUROPE presently.

NOTE : Also deduct 100 pounds extra from my balance to cash the cheque and to pay for the bank exchange charges and cheque cashing fees if required.

Below is my information and address for change of ownership documents.

Allen Smith.
#38D Sindulan, Mabolo Cebu City,
postal code 6000. Philipines.

Again : before i instruct my client to send the money i will want you to state in your next email and assure me that this arrangement is ok and that i can trust you with this transaction.

please reply as soon as possible so that i can instruct my client can send the payment immediately.

Also send me the name of the beneficiary of the payment and the name which should be on the cheque and your complete home address where to send the payment in the following order :

FULL NAME TO ISSUE ON CHEQUE.....
ADDRESS........
ZIP CODE.........
CITY.........
COUNTRY........
PHONE NUMBERS......

Just want to be very sure the payment is made with the correct data and address. i hope to read from you soon with all required details for the payment so that my lawyer can prepare a sale contract between us for this transaction.

i await your reply soon.

I am counting on your understanding and trust to make this transaction a success because i really want a surprice gift for my daughter..

urgent response will be highly appriciated.

kind regards with greetings to your family.

Allen smith.

Pov06

Basically when you pay for the "shipping company" the buyer will disappear. Then the bank will say the bank draft or cheque is fake and they will take the money away. You will have lost the amount of the shipping and the buyer isn't even interested in the car.

mdlb

miss-bored wrote: »

Got similar responses after putting my car on carzone a few years back. I was aware it was scam but I was so curious I said I'd respond once. They must think we are awfully thick! Here is his reply: Obv I went no further on this transaction!!

Hello.
Thanks for the quick reply,i am happy is still available for sale, the price is ok,, please reserve it for me and take off the advert from the internet because i am making payment immediately. i am making the purchase for my daughter as a wedding gift. she is getting married in Europe soon.

Due to distance barrier and my tight schedule / programms and to avoid additional cost,is not advisable to come phisically to test it before payment,but i am ok with the details on the advert and i am paying for it as discribed and i accept that you sell it to me at no warrantee or Guarantee.

Regarding payment,i will instruct my client in EUROPE who owe me and agree to pay me via a cover cash cheque of ( 15,000 pounds )from his active british account to issue you the money for the payment, this money is for your payment and shipping cost because i am not in europe presently, i just relocated to Philipines for contract job .

The cheque my client will send to you for the payment is a certified covered cheque (cash check) which can be exchanged, confirmed and cashed in any post office, bank or finance institute in Denmark, Austria, Germany, Sweden, and any country in europe in 3 days,he use to pay me with it while in Europe.

All you have to do when you get the cheque is to take it to your bank or any finance institute for depositing, cashing and exchange, as soon as the money is credited on your account, deduct your payment which is 13,400 EURO ),

The remainder of the money is for the shipping cost. you will assist me transfer it to the freight forwarding company agent that i am yet to contact, he will handle the pick up and shipping after you deducted your payment and all bank charges. i will provide you all details and instructions you need to get the shipping done.

He also will sign on my behalf as my representative all document including change of ownership he will transport it alongside my other medical iterms i already purchase in Denmark, he will take care of all export documents so dn't worry about this. i will provide you all required details and instructions when you receive the money and have deducted your payment. i do hope i can trust you with this transaction,i would have done this myself but i am not in EUROPE presently.

NOTE : Also deduct 100 pounds extra from my balance to cash the cheque and to pay for the bank exchange charges and cheque cashing fees if required.

Below is my information and address for change of ownership documents.

Allen Smith.
#38D Sindulan, Mabolo Cebu City,
postal code 6000. Philipines.

Again : before i instruct my client to send the money i will want you to state in your next email and assure me that this arrangement is ok and that i can trust you with this transaction.

please reply as soon as possible so that i can instruct my client can send the payment immediately.

Also send me the name of the beneficiary of the payment and the name which should be on the cheque and your complete home address where to send the payment in the following order :

FULL NAME TO ISSUE ON CHEQUE.....
ADDRESS........
ZIP CODE.........
CITY.........
COUNTRY........
PHONE NUMBERS......

Just want to be very sure the payment is made with the correct data and address. i hope to read from you soon with all required details for the payment so that my lawyer can prepare a sale contract between us for this transaction.

i await your reply soon.

I am counting on your understanding and trust to make this transaction a success because i really want a surprice gift for my daughter..

urgent response will be highly appriciated.

kind regards with greetings to your family.

Allen smith.

Cheers
My guy claims to be buying for his son for a new years present..... that also set a few alarm bells off........

advertsfox

Complete scam, don't even bother with the email contact option on Done Deal / Gumtree / Carzone because it's a common targeted scam option.

monkeypants

Send him back a fake shipping receipt. Could keep it going for weeks.

There was a guy who did that kind of thing, stringing scammers along. He wrote a book about it.

Essien

I had one tried on me back home, then a similar thing out here a couple of months ago when I was buying a car actually. There's always shipping involved, as well as some long winded story about why they are buying it.

In any case, I can only ever read them in this guys voice...

bazz26

Yes it is a scam. Unless you found a right idot who agrees to buy a car he hasn't even seen, at the seller's asking price and isn't even in the country.

Tell him you will happily take 100 magic beans and a Jack Russell as payment.

djimi

If you are inclined to ask if something is a scam then it almost certainly is...

TigerTim

I love playing these guys along until I get sick of it. Told a guy once that the cow had a calf in the back seat. Made no difference, he was still intent on buying it. Ignore unless you want to have a bit of fun for a few days.

T.

Guy:Incognito

Tell him you happen to be going on holiday to near the shipping adress he gives you and that you'll turn it in to a road trip and hand deliver the car after the money clears, saving him the shipping costs. :-)

the keen edge

Obviously a scam. Nonetheless....

Last year my Dad was selling his old '00 Golf on DD, good car he owned it from new, straight, the mileage was high though.
Buyer rang from Athlone asked about the car, said he'd buy it on the condition that it would be delivered to Athlone(from Galway). All this was agreed over the phone.

Anyway my Dad arrives in Athlone, presents the car to the buyer who is a little shocked by the 180K miles on the clock!(The mileage wasn't listed on the DD advert, not intentionally hidden mind, more so because my Dad wouldn't be the most descriptive of authors. And bizarrely during the phone inquiry the buyer didn't ask what mileage was on the car.)
Regardless the buyer paid the agreed amount then brought my Dad to the bus station and even paid for the bus fare back home to Galway!

I guess there are all types of buyers and sellers out there. Be vigilant but also be aware that some buyers my not be as meticulous as yourself.

visual

I hate seeing adds with no mileage listed
I always believe it isnt listed for a reason.

the keen edge

visual wrote: »

I hate seeing adds with no mileage listed
I always believe it isnt listed for a reason.

Yeah I would be the same way.
However as above my Dad genuinely forgot to list the mileage though to a buyers perspective not listing 180K mile would, rightly so, ring an alarm bell. Nevertheless the car was straight as a die and a good buy.

mdlb

And another one.............

bishopwilliam85 is very interested!!!!

offshore, paypal, he will look after shipping etc.....

replied to his gibberish with all the results from google revealing him as a scammer.

visual

Was between jobs so had a few weeks of found a beautiful BMW 520D leather all extras very low mileage on carzone no phone number so replied by email. Lots more photos car sounded even better than in add but there was a catch the car was in Spain. But I could transfer money in to an escrow account thats used by yahoo so it ligimate the car is so good that its guarantee I will want it.
Seller will ship car to my address and I have a week to check it out and if I like it I then inform escrow company to release the funds so no ri as k to me. Again seller is so confident the car is perfect he knows I will buy it but on the off chance I dont the seller will arrange to collect the car at no cost to me snd I can just inform escrow company to refund my money.

Emails went back and forth then I decided sure ive time off I'll fly to spain make a holiday out of it and buy car. Then the seller became cold made every excuse that I couldnt do this but it could be still shipped to me.

I use escrow in work and it is usually a bank that does this type of tranaction but the details given where email account and web address.

At this stage I realise it was bogus so reported the add. Two weeks later this scam was televised on bbc. But it made me wonder how many got caught with this. I rechecked carezone and found another 5 adds with similar no phone numbers no address cars all low mileage top of range and low price for year. 5k euro. There was even some cars with same back ground looked like a car hire place that someone had taken photos of different modles.

It turned out the so call escrow company was front so once you transfered money its gone.
There is no car just photos of someone elses car.
English police traced details back to Nigeria

Im sure many got done on this as there is a few variations

irishjig69b

some poor dope has defo got stung with this scam

dahamsta

Some poor dope doesn't know how to use a forum.

yop

Currently in discussions with the lovely Maria, my "Favorite buyer", nice girl, very polite and eager to buy. She is currently upping my asking price, car is now twice the price it was advertised and she still wants to buy it. Lovely girl indeed

irishjig69b

Meaning what dahamsta?

yop

irishjig69b wrote: »

Meaning what dahamsta?

That the dope needs to learn how to use a forum i would say.

Interceptor

yop wrote: »

Currently in discussions with the lovely Maria, my "Favorite buyer", nice girl, very polite and eager to buy. She is currently upping my asking price, car is now twice the price it was advertised and she still wants to buy it. Lovely girl indeed

Ask her for pics - tell her you are single, rich and love 'furren' girls. Post the pics here...

Senna

I had a young girl that wanted to buy an 00 clio I was selling. She started haggling on the phone before she even seen the car, we agreed on a price and she said she'd be there in an hour to pick it up. I asked do you know much about cars or have you someone who know about cars to come along with you, of course she hadn't and hadn't a notion about cars. All she wanted was to buy a car "any car" before she had to give her mothers car back that night.
I started asking had she any friends who know about cars etc etc to come along and in the end, I think she got pissed off and just went to the next car on donedeal, and just bough it instead.
Some people are just too stupid for their own good.

yop

Well that sounds good but the problem is that the shipping company does not accept the item or merchandise they want to come and pick up money, so maybe you should please try and set up a paypal account at www.paypal.com and if you already have an account with them just send me the email address you use for the registration so i can pay in.



Maria
Not going to work, I have paypal but the cash is required as paypal will charge me loads on fees.
thanks


I will be paying the PayPal charges from my account and i will be paying directly into your PayPal account without any delay,and i hope you have a paypal account. If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which is the email address you use for it or you can send me a paypal money request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for it to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company..



I will be paying the PayPal charges from my account and i will be paying directly into your PayPal account without any delay. I will need your home address for it to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company as they are suppose to pickup the Car 2 to 3 days after I make the Booking and here is my address also if you will need it for the Agreement Form:

Name: Maria Laura
Address : 41 Station Road,Solihull.
City : Birmingham
Postal Code : B91 3RT
Country : United Kingdom.

I will proceed with the PayPal payment as soon as i receive the PayPal payment notification to my PayPal email (ria.datz.gr@gmail.com) or
you send me the following details to make the payment
PayPal email
PayPal name
amount to send
item description

Await your response asap.
Thanks,
Maria.





Maria,
Paypal email as mentioned in last email, name is on the email. Amount is advert price now + 6,000 as I have that offer on the table here.
Address: 23, St Agnes Road, Crumlin, Dublin 12. 01 6666200
I will check my paypal to see when you have paid.


That address is the garda station in Crumlin, though the ad is marked as Mayo...silly fools they are.

yop

Think she is getting piKKed off
Not even a "hi" now

PayPal email
PayPal name
amount to send
item description

My reply

xxxxxx@gmail.com
xxxxxx
12,000
iceberg

irishjig69b

Nice to b called a dope :-)

drunk_monk

yop wrote: »

Name: Maria Laura
Address : 41 Station Road,Solihull.
City : Birmingham
Postal Code : B91 3RT
Country : United Kingdom.

.

That address she gave appears to be the UKs border agency! lol

discodavie

drunk_monk wrote: »

That address she gave appears to be the UKs border agency! lol

Ha ha ha , there must be money in it though if they're still at it. I'm stringing her along here too. She emailed me today. .... Here we go again.

yop

I got a "Legal" email from PayPal now.. for "Breech of contract) (note spelling)!
Told her I got a 14k offer and that she needed to beat that. She said she will.... clown and a half

lway

yop wrote: »

I got a "Legal" email from PayPal now.. for "Breech of contract) (note spelling)!
Told her I got a 14k offer and that she needed to beat that. She said she will.... clown and a half

Yeah, this is a common one now. I had a friend sell something on Ebay and was accepting payment through Paypal. He sent on his Paypal account number to the guy looking to buy it so he could transfer teh payment and a couple of days later got an official looking mail allegedly from Paypal looking for him to send on his password details as there was suspicious activity on his account and they needed to verify that he was the correct owner of the Paypal account.

Total scam.

Petey89

I had the same thing last time I sold a car on donedeal, got the email saying no need to look saw the pics and would pay full price and organise shipping to some foreign country lol.
Had the same on ebay when I sold a phone, some guy from L.A wanted to buy it for his son in Africa and then sent me a fake paypal email saying the money had been credited to my account. which obviously it wasn't so just reported him to ebay and paypay and sent copies of everything he sent me to them and just got the account blocked.
But more than likely he just opened another one. I do wonder do some people actually fall for these stupid scams.

TwoShedsJackson

Petey89 wrote: »

I do wonder do some people actually fall for these stupid scams.

Of course they do, or these guys wouldn't be trying them. They only need a miniscule per centage of idiots to actually go through with some sort of payment out of the thousands of attempts, to make it worth their while.

convoy

Ben.brucce4@yahoo.com
Pat.rane56@gmail.com
Got texts off both of thèse wanting to buy vechicle i was selling on donedeal, offering full price via paypal shipping company would pick up vechicle......

Andrewf20

yop wrote: »

Name: Maria Laura

Ive heard and seen this a few times in these scams whereby they use a surname that could be a first name.

dmc17

irishjig69b wrote: »

Nice to b called a dope :-)

I think they just assumed you meant the OP got stung

new2me

visual wrote: »

I hate seeing adds with no mileage listed
I always believe it isnt listed for a reason.

I find if the mileage is high its usually not listed in the advert as they want you to call and hopefully persuade you to look at it but if its low mileage believe me they wont forget to put it in