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ROI Meal feeding weanlings

  • 13-01-2013 6:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭


    Have 5 april/early may 2012 limo/char cross bulls inside on straw getting a bag of weanling crunch a day. They range from 375-425kg at mo id say.

    at 5kgs each and good silage, what weight gain/day will they achieve.

    @ 8.25/ bag is it worth feeding this much meal at all? will prob move them on before end of month but no point spending another 100€ on it if not getting a return.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    They are eating about 4kgs DM of silage as well. Why did you feed them soo much is your silage poor quality or are you short of it. Why are you still feed a weanling crunch. I imagine if they are good quality that they are gaining over 1kg/day maybe up to 1.4 kgs.

    If the crunch is costing 350/ton it is costing between ration and silage 2.25/day ( asuming you are feeding bale silage). Good quality weanlings are making over 2/kg so you are at least breaking even. However you could be doing it cheaper if using a good quality course ration about 3kgs and good silage it should be around 1.6/day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭reps4


    They are eating about 4kgs DM of silage as well. Why did you feed them soo much is your silage poor quality or are you short of it. Why are you still feed a weanling crunch. I imagine if they are good quality that they are gaining over 1kg/day maybe up to 1.4 kgs.

    If the crunch is costing 350/ton it is costing between ration and silage 2.25/day ( asuming you are feeding bale silage). Good quality weanlings are making over 2/kg so you are at least breaking even. However you could be doing it cheaper if using a good quality course ration about 3kgs and good silage it should be around 1.6/day.

    Was giving a bag in creep feeder when they were the last outside last nov and they ate it no problem, stayed with this amount when weaned them in december then. the silage is good, have plenty of it luckily enough!

    would expect 2.30/kg, there older comrades made it last november and these are better quality if anything. at that rate its worth feeding them so.

    a course ration is a nut i take it? how much a ton is this normally? not heard of any ton rate on anything at less than 8.25/bag since last aug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    reps4 wrote: »
    Was giving a bag in creep feeder when they were the last outside last nov and they ate it no problem, stayed with this amount when weaned them in december then. the silage is good, have plenty of it luckily enough!

    would expect 2.30/kg, there older comrades made it last november and these are better quality if anything. at that rate its worth feeding them so.

    a course ration is a nut i take it? how much a ton is this normally? not heard of any ton rate on anything at less than 8.25/bag since last aug.

    A course ration is not a nut it is a mixture of what it says on the bag can usuall be bought 20/ton cheaper than a nut. You can also purchasse nuts or ration in ton or 1/2 ton bags. If you have good silage and plenty of it I would not have fed 5kgs/head/day.

    Even if they did not gain as much you would cut your costs way back. On 2kgs.day of a cource ration you costs would be 1.3/day inc silage and you would be still gaining 0.7+/day. A euro/day cheaper. The heavier bulls are usually the less/kg that they make.

    When I mean good silage I mean either first cut taken in late May/early June or second cut taken 10 weeks after first cut. Usually this would be 70+DMD.

    8.25/bag for a weanling ration seems very reasonable is it good quailty what is in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭reps4


    A course ration is not a nut it is a mixture of what it says on the bag can usuall be bought 20/ton cheaper than a nut. You can also purchasse nuts or ration in ton or 1/2 ton bags. If you have good silage and plenty of it I would not have fed 5kgs/head/day.

    Even if they did not gain as much you would cut your costs way back. On 2kgs.day of a cource ration you costs would be 1.3/day inc silage and you would be still gaining 0.7+/day. A euro/day cheaper. The heavier bulls are usually the less/kg that they make.

    When I mean good silage I mean either first cut taken in late May/early June or second cut taken 10 weeks after first cut. Usually this would be 70+DMD.

    8.25/bag for a weanling ration seems very reasonable is it good quailty what is in it.

    Its grennans bull beef. red bag. may review for later this yr year so! will be weighing them this yr also so this will help show the return on feed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭stand on!!


    Do you find the grennans bull beef any good used it here for a while theres no great power in it


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