should i move out?

rm234

I just recently moved to Paris as I am studying one semester here. I decided I'd move in with 3 of my class mates, as it was a relatively cheaper place and great location. However, it's now 10 days in and my blood is absolutely boiling. Here's the situation, two of them have worked part time jobs since the summer so they have their own money as well as availing of the Erasmus grant. I have already been on Erasmus so I can't avail of that, nor did I work last semester part-time so money is quite tight at the moment. HOWEVER, before you say anything, I clean, I wash my clothes, I actually clean up their f**king s**t which they leave around and as I said I am on breaking point. ever since we got here all they do is vegetate as they bought a HDMI cable so they can watch the football etc. I have said it to them twice to take out the bins and clean up as there are now a load of fruit flies having orgies by the minute. Unfortunately, France's culture of letting is very old-fashioned, and getting a place like this is once in a blue moon. My only viable option is that I have one very good friend au-pairing at the moment and he's on the verge of leaving his host family also. What would you do? As I am typing I am trembling with anger at these slobs, I know it's harsh but it's a bloody masters grow up ffs. :mad:

debabyjesus

rm234 wrote: »

I just recently moved to Paris as I am studying one semester here. I decided I'd move in with 3 of my class mates, as it was a relatively cheaper place and great location. However, it's now 10 days in and my blood is absolutely boiling. Here's the situation, two of them have worked part time jobs since the summer so they have their own money as well as availing of the Erasmus grant. I have already been on Erasmus so I can't avail of that, nor did I work last semester part-time so money is quite tight at the moment. HOWEVER, before you say anything, I clean, I wash my clothes, I actually clean up their f**king s**t which they leave around and as I said I am on breaking point. ever since we got here all they do is vegetate as they bought a HDMI cable so they can watch the football etc. I have said it to them twice to take out the bins and clean up as there are now a load of fruit flies having orgies by the minute. Unfortunately, France's culture of letting is very old-fashioned, and getting a place like this is once in a blue moon. My only viable option is that I have one very good friend au-pairing at the moment and he's on the verge of leaving his host family also. What would you do? As I am typing I am trembling with anger at these slobs, I know it's harsh but it's a bloody masters grow up ffs. :mad:

You can watch football on a hdmi cable? here's me paying for sky all these years

Getting there

Is you issue with them not tidying up after themselves? I can't see what money has to do with it. Maybe get a parttime job to get you out of the apt so you're not looking at them laying about all the time. Youll have some of your own money that way too. win-win

Kumejima

Yes you should move out.

You'd be sparing your flatmates an enormous amount of pain in the ass.....

kfallon

You know you should, you don't need us to tell you that.

On a side note, those lucky fruit flies.....

krudler

Move in with your au-pair friend, then stream it live on the net, that'll solve both your housing and financial needs.

CianRyan

I'm confused, are you working and picking up their ****?
Stop picking up their ****, if money is tight and you've got a good deal moving out seems stupid.

Chill out.

flanders1979

Male au-pair? How very modern

rm234

I'm studying, with them, in the same masters. basically they sleep in and sht then said to me the other day "thanks for the wake up call." yeah like the place is really nice and stuff. i do want a part time job just coming home to plaza de slumdog millionaire isn't on

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

I don't get the work stuff and grant about and then it moves on to tidiness. Was that setting up some story line that's going to come up again in episode 2.

Tiddlypeeps

rm234 wrote: »

I just recently moved to Paris as I am studying one semester here. I decided I'd move in with 3 of my class mates, as it was a relatively cheaper place and great location. However, it's now 10 days in and my blood is absolutely boiling. Here's the situation, two of them have worked part time jobs since the summer so they have their own money as well as availing of the Erasmus grant. I have already been on Erasmus so I can't avail of that, nor did I work last semester part-time so money is quite tight at the moment. HOWEVER, before you say anything, I clean, I wash my clothes, I actually clean up their f**king s**t which they leave around and as I said I am on breaking point. ever since we got here all they do is vegetate as they bought a HDMI cable so they can watch the football etc. I have said it to them twice to take out the bins and clean up as there are now a load of fruit flies having orgies by the minute. Unfortunately, France's culture of letting is very old-fashioned, and getting a place like this is once in a blue moon. My only viable option is that I have one very good friend au-pairing at the moment and he's on the verge of leaving his host family also. What would you do? As I am typing I am trembling with anger at these slobs, I know it's harsh but it's a bloody masters grow up ffs. :mad:

If you have the option to move out and in with your other friend then you probably should.

If it's not a viable option financially then you are either going to have to get used to having the place in a mess or get used to cleaning up after them. People like that rarely change so the nagging them route probably won't result in anything other than making you angrier.

Culleeo

You're only going to be there for one semester. If money is tight, there is no point in moving out. Ask the lads to clean up after themselves, if they don't, stab the two of them, that'll learn them to mess with you.

rm234

@tiddlypeeps yeah you're right there Bill. I don't know if moving in with my mate is fully an option yet, as he has interviews next week for jobs so I mean I could hang on til he knows if he's here for longer. He also is treated like s**t by his host family. It's living with all guys I suppose is the reason, I lived with a mix before Xmas and the place was kept in a good condition and we all seemed to get on. 3 other classmates live downstairs, 2 guys 1 girl, and having the girl you can see the place is kept clean. I'm far from a neat freak, but I do like to cook my own dinner without some flies humping my butter.

kfallon

rm234 wrote: »

@tiddlypeeps yeah you're right there Bill. I don't know if moving in with my mate is fully an option yet, as he has interviews next week for jobs so I mean I could hang on til he knows if he's here for longer. He also is treated like s**t by his host family. It's living with all guys I suppose is the reason, I lived with a mix before Xmas and the place was kept in a good condition and we all seemed to get on. 3 other classmates live downstairs, 2 guys 1 girl, and having the girl you can see the place is kept clean. I'm far from a neat freak, but I do like to cook my own dinner without some flies humping my butter.

The insect version of Last Tango in Paris

rm234

so, this is basically a green light that I can stab them? Haha. One out of the three was in my undergrad, and he's a great lad. But I think he's just a bit lead astray by the other 2 by being messy and what have you.

jugger

if your a girl you could try rewarding them with sex to motive them to clean

The_Gatsby

**** in one of their bedrooms and see how they like it. If doing it on the floor is too far then do it in the bin or something

2rkehij30qtza5

You are an adult.
They are adults.
HAVE an adult conversation about it.
Ask to have a house 'meeting'.
Be nice but firm.
If you are all good friends then things will change.
If nothing changes as a result of a meeting where you air your grievances then move out.

Dave0301

Make a cleaning rota.

jugger

Dave0301 wrote: »

Make a cleaning rota.

one of the best ways to piss off your house mates the magical appearing cleaning rota

phoenix999

Sounds like my house when the parents used to take a weekend break away when we were younger. The place was always a kip when they returned. It was hardly ever worth their while going. If only they had five daughters instead of five sons.

Teyla Emmagan

Either tell them to shape up, or clean the place properly yourself. It's a universal law that you can throw out someone else's crap if it's causing flies. There is no point whining to us about it, man up and bring it.

rm234

i'm kind of over reacting like cause it's so early on but yeah I mean it's the "yeah we'll clean up" attitude that I hate. I'll see how this week goes, post up a cleaning rota see how they take it if they end up takin the piss then it's time to gtfo of Dodge. Thanks all

Paddy Cow

Dave0301 wrote: »

Make a cleaning rota.

Worst idea ever! Better to try and get everyone to clean up after themselves. Sounds like the op would be happy if they washed their dishes and didn't leave crap lying around the place. I bet if the op did up a rota, they would get twice as bad just to wind him up more. Maybe rotas work for other people but in my experience and that of pretty much everyone I know who came across them, they are a disaster.

Paddy Cow

jugger wrote: »

one of the best ways to piss off your house mates the magical appearing cleaning rota

What I wanted to say, only shorter!

Truncheon Rouge

OP pay your share, clean your own personal space, after that, fck 'em.

let them sit around in **** if they want, thats their problem. If you have your own room get yourself a mini fridge and a microwave and kettle. (make use of the college canteen, take a lunchbox for bringing stuff back) ( disposable paper plates = gift of the highest gods) keep your own spot clean, stick some air fresheners to the outside of your door, leave the window ajar. (maybe duct tape the doorframe from the inside)

after that just ignore the peasants and squalor as you make your way in/out the place. let them eat week old cake.

shower/groom in college, couple of container of water for brushing teeth in the morning.

for poopage..ehm..difficult...maybe some kind of portable chair device with a hole cut in it that lets you hover above the dropzone.
or a barrel of that blue port-a-poop stuff, or just schedule your dumps, or leave and go to a pub.

basically if you put your mind to it you can live in a nice hygenic bubble while they die of dysentery .

2rkehij30qtza5

I wouldn't jump straight in with the cleaning rota! Just broach the subject of keeping the place tidier first.

gingernut125

Tell them that if they don't clean then you'll need to get a cleaner. And as you do clean you're not going to contribute.

humbert

When you do explain your grievances to your housemates I hope you make a better job of it than you did here.


What's the connection between you not having worked, them having worked, signal catching HDMI cables and house cleaning?

Are they using the arcane power of working for money, coupled with a magic HDMI cable to force you into domestic servitude?

orestes

rm234 wrote: »

i'm kind of over reacting like cause it's so early on but yeah I mean it's the "yeah we'll clean up" attitude that I hate. I'll see how this week goes, post up a cleaning rota see how they take it if they end up takin the piss then it's time to gtfo of Dodge. Thanks all

If you think they're bad now,wait till you see how they react to you doing that without talking to them first. They will go from being messy through laziness to being disgusting on purpose just to piss you off for being so presumptious.

rm234

the HDMI cable for those of you who haven't used one, is basically plugged into a laptop and matches are streamed. the house was signed in the guy that's causing the most mess's name, it's just a bit of a mess (no pun intended) to get out of. I know I could like but the fact we're in the same class would make it amazingly awkward. I reckon I'll scrap the rota idea, and just put their dirty plates in their rooms, or even their beds. hopefully the flies will vacate for the spring then.

rm234

and the reason it does my nut in is because I couldn't care less for streaming the premier league, and if their weekends consist of vegging on the couch watching that crap when their in one of the coolest cities in the world then god they are some sadcases.

Hippies!

I hate you already OP, move out of Boards while you're at it. :pac:

Alter-Ego

Can you not just ask them to clean after themselves because it's really bothering you? If they don't improve then tell them you're going to move out because of the mess.

Don't start putting up rota's. It's just silly, passive aggressive horsesh1t.

OR, just start washing your balls and arse crack in the kitchen sink and refuse to stop until they get their sh1t together.

debabyjesus

rm234 wrote: »

@tiddlypeeps yeah you're right there Bill. I don't know if moving in with my mate is fully an option yet, as he has interviews next week for jobs so I mean I could hang on til he knows if he's here for longer. He also is treated like s**t by his host family. It's living with all guys I suppose is the reason, I lived with a mix before Xmas and the place was kept in a good condition and we all seemed to get on. 3 other classmates live downstairs, 2 guys 1 girl, and having the girl you can see the place is kept clean. I'm far from a neat freak, but I do like to cook my own dinner without some flies humping my butter.

So basically all men are filthy animals?

Id have to say women can be just as bad.

I will never rent out my house to just women again, filthy dirty whiney eejits. At least men don't constantly ring you over the most trivial ****.

imitation

I somehow get the feeling that leaving a cup in the sink for 30 minutes could be a mortal sin here...

debabyjesus

rm234 wrote: »

the HDMI cable for those of you who haven't used one, is basically plugged into a laptop and matches are streamed. the house was signed in the guy that's causing the most mess's name, it's just a bit of a mess (no pun intended) to get out of. I know I could like but the fact we're in the same class would make it amazingly awkward. I reckon I'll scrap the rota idea, and just put their dirty plates in their rooms, or even their beds. hopefully the flies will vacate for the spring then.

i googled the magic football streaming hdmi cable and it doesn't appear to exist. why would you lie op

Tom_Cruise

You have to find out what REALLY annoys them, obviously a dirty house doesn't so do something else to mess with there heads and use this as a bargaining chip.

Tetra

rm234 wrote: »

and the reason it does my nut in is because I couldn't care less for streaming the premier league, and if their weekends consist of vegging on the couch watching that crap when their in one of the coolest cities in the world then god they are some sadcases.

Why are you whining on boards and not out exploring the city? You should be enjoying it, especially if you're only going to be there one semester.

Oranage2

Maybe take a chill pill, i don't know how long your house mates will stand you killing their buzz.

spagboll

a few options if you want to stay:

1. Give out them - they will bitch about you behind your back, and it will turn into them versus you

2. Suck it up, swallow your pride and say to yourself - I'm going to clean the place on my own, its worth it to live "harmoniously"in this location

3. Let the place go to ruin, clean only your own stuff, have your room as a clean sanctuary

There's so many slobs out there

Bajingo

Don't clean up after them. To be honest if you do that you deserve what you get, purely because they'll get it into their heads that what ever mess they make, it'll disappear. They're probably used to similar treatment at home so if you let the trash build up it'll eventually bug them. If it doesn't you're name isn't on the lease anyway so any hassle the mess causes isn't on you and they're hardly going to leave there for the landlord when you're all moving out.

I agree with the other poster, if you keep yourself and your things clean, there should be no problem here, because it's only a short length of time and you'll be spending your time studying and sight seeing anyway. If they choose to watch the football, that shouldn't bother you much.

You'd mad to go moving out now, your cash is tight focus on your work not the kitchen mess!

up for anything

Did you not have an idea of what the place was like when you moved in? You've only been there 10 days and you're thinking of laying down rules to people who have been quite happy living like they are. Good luck with that.

Paddy Cow

rm234 wrote: »

the HDMI cable for those of you who haven't used one, is basically plugged into a laptop and matches are streamed. the house was signed in the guy that's causing the most mess's name, it's just a bit of a mess (no pun intended) to get out of. I know I could like but the fact we're in the same class would make it amazingly awkward. I reckon I'll scrap the rota idea, and just put their dirty plates in their rooms, or even their beds. hopefully the flies will vacate for the spring then.

Then what's the problem? I thought that when you went into great detail about how they had money saved up and you didn't that you stood to loose your deposit if you left the place looking like "Fruit Flies of the Playboy Mansion".

It's only for one semester. If they want to live like slobs, then let them. Your room can be your haven if you don't have the money to go out If it was a long term let and you stood to lose money, then I could see your point. From what you have posted, it's some lads in Paris for a few months who just want to chill out and not be nagged about the boring mundane sh!te you get at home.

Live a little OP and always wear sunscreen :cool:

PhlegmyMoses

When you mentioned your trembling hands, I could defo relate. I'd be losing the plot if I were you. They're taking you for a fúcking mug, mate. What it is, yeah, if I were in your shoes, I'd probably have smashed the **** out of both of them already, the fúcking muggy cúnts. They're taking liberties bruv, and you're letting them.

pickarooney

Wait, did you actually fail Erasmus the first time or are you just having another go for the laugh?
Just hit a club, pull a sugar daddy/cougar and move in with him/her.

Gyalist

pickarooney wrote: »

Wait, did you actually fail Erasmus the first time or are you just having another go for the laugh?
Just hit a club, pull a sugar daddy/cougar and move in with him/her.

Perhaps the OP could benefit from a semester on the Remedial Creative Writing forum.

Eve_Dublin

Isn't living in a shithole all part of being a student? You're in Paris and only for one semester. Forget about it and enjoy yourself.

Paddy Cow

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

When you mentioned your trembling hands, I could defo relate. I'd be losing the plot if I were you. They're taking you for a fúcking mug, mate. What it is, yeah, if I were in your shoes, I'd probably have smashed the **** out of both of them already, the fúcking muggy cúnts. They're taking liberties bruv, and you're letting them.

LOL

hatrickpatrick

Root of this thread is that the OP isn't getting any, he's jealous of the fruit flies as they keep reminding him that he's not getting any, and he's angry at his room mates for facilitating the reminders that he's not getting any.

Solution, to quote Captain Jack Sparrow: "You have GOT to get yourself a girl, mate".

Boombastic

Dave0301 wrote: »

Make a cleaning rota.

and leave post-it notes everywhere with little reminders, just to jog their memory. I can't see this plan backfiring.:)