Wrestlemania 29 rumours featuring Lesnar, Undertaker etc etc

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Reddit SCOOPS

For those that know me, you will know I am somewhat buddy-buddy with Jason Powell of Prowrestling.net

Now, I know he may not be Dave Meltzer in terms of getting the big scoops - but according to him, he has a source on the inside (actually one of the boys), who has informed him of major plans for tomorrow's Raw and the weeks/months ahead, leading up to Mania..

Apparently, Brock Lesnar is flying in for the Raw show tomorrow night. Whether he will appear on the show or not is unknown at this time, but at the very least he will be recording some promo spots for the next month or two, as he begins his feud with...
.. The Rock!

Apparently an angle will either begin tomorrow night or within the next few weeks/the Rumble itself, in where Lesnar will attempt to/succesfully break Rock's arm with the Kimura. There have been rumours of this for months now, but Jason's source tells him that plans have been put into full gear the last 2 weeks after the dismal 2.2 rating, which has supposedly lit a fire under Vince Mcmahon and he is pissed at the current roster.
Also, he does not know whether or not this feud will be for the WWE title, but he says Vince is leaning towards putting the belt on Rock at the Rumble, thus leading to Lesnar-Rock for the title at Mania in the main event.

Expect this to be posted at his site sometime in the next 6-8 hours, sometime before midnight EST, as he is trying to confirm it with a couple of other sources before posting to the VIP or main site areas. Jason is well known for not posting bullheaded spoilers without trying to get more confirmations first, like guys such as Dave Meltzer do (thus giving him a bad rep), which is why I trust him a lot. Also, if you don't think you can trust him - he is the guy who broke that Sheamus was winning the Rumble last year.
I'll keep you updated as and when I get more info.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/162u26/so_heres_the_plan_major_spoilers_for_raw_and/

Loughc

Interesting. Would that match fall flat tho ala Brock/Goldberg as the fans will know that once WM is over both men are out the door? Which also leaves the question can it really be for the WWE title if neither man will be around after WM?

chopperbyrne

Ludicrous decision. No guarantee Brock will stick around after his Mania pay day and Rock will still have to do all his movie/media work which will make a mockery of any broken arm angle.

The only good think will be that the WWE Title will not be defended on every PPV, maybe allowing the Tag or IC title to headline a show.

Handsome Bob

Don't mind the idea but I think it'd be unnecessary for the title to be involved. I think the feud would be better served if Brock cost The Rock the belt at the rumble.

SlickRic

S. De Sousa wrote: »

Don't mind the idea but I think it'd be unnecessary for the title to be involved. I think the feud would be better served if Brock cost The Rock the belt at the rumble.

that's too logical though.

Brock v Rock in a Grudge Match.
Punk v Undertaker - Streak v 500-day title run.

it makes sense people!

GTR63

Broke the story of Sheamus winning the rumble....that was painfully obvious. I'm calling BS on this for the simple reason if he 'breaks' his arm shouldn't the Rock stay at home and you know miss some of the 7 tapings wwe have him booked up for.

I have to admit i Have no interest in any of the Lesnar matches being mentioned.

Lesnar Vs Rock
Lesnar Vs Taker
and especially Lesnar Vs HHH

Just put him in a match with Ryback and have Ryback win. At least it will give a boost to an up and coming wrestler (especially if Lesnar dosent renew his contract) rather than any of the above beating him which wouldn't really do anything in the long run.

I'm not even a big Ryback fan but id like to see anyone pushed at this stage.

rovert

GTR63 wrote: »

Broke the story of Sheamus winning the rumble....that was painfully obvious.

I think you are rewriting history especially in terms of the Wrestling media.

If that was the Rumble in Randys hometown, I was sure at the time that Orton was going to win it.

DM_7

You can't fault the arm break logic though. What would happen to the Rumble match then or Rock on poster for the chamber. Whatever about a feud the arm break suggestion seems a bit much.

Arawn

Did it not says attempts to break his arm?? Can see him not getting the job done and the rock being pissed.

gnfnrhead

Arawn wrote: »

Did it not says attempts to break his arm?? Can see him not getting the job done and the rock being pissed.

And that's a big problem. The Kimura takes literally a few seconds to snap an arm. Not the several minutes it seems to take Lesnar.

Arawn

gnfnrhead wrote: »

And that's a big problem. The Kimura takes literally a few seconds to snap an arm. Not the several minutes it seems to take Lesnar.

I know how a kimura works. It should take seconds but some people put on truely heroic kimura defences. I seen one where a guy was locked in more than once and still managed to escape.

The problem with Brock vs anyone is you can't have anyone be the strong guy that overpowers it

CastorTroy

he is pissed at the current roster.

This part got me. Because it's obviously all the roster's fault for the poor ratings? I think can only blame them for agreeing to go along with some of the ideas.

Jayob10

i'll be shocked if we don't see HHH v Lesnar at WM.

Simple reason being theres no way HHH won't avenge his defeat last year.

Beefy78

Do you really think HHH cares about stuff like that these days? He's not an active performer and I'm sure he's far more concerned with the success of the product than with his own win vs loss record.

montyrebel

imo tonight brock will return to save punk losing to ryback in the tlc match and keep his title.

when those two are beating ryback, rock comes down to rescue him to set up rock vs brock at mania

GTR63

CastorTroy wrote: »

This part got me. Because it's obviously all the roster's fault for the poor ratings? I think can only blame them for agreeing to go along with some of the ideas.

He blamed the writers a while back too, Vince is never going to blame himself now is he?

andyman

The whole organisation needs a shake up. For example, the number of times they could have turned Cena heel in the last couple of years (Nexus, embracing hate) and he's still the same yawnfest bar the odd rant and rave here and there. Turn him heel.

CM Punk needs to remind McMahon publicly about the "douchebag yes-men" that he surrounds himself with :pac:

hufpc8w3adnk65

I really think its too late for a Cena hell turn.Hope im wrong tho

starviewadams

Cena is the WWE's only full time mega over babyface superstar,would be absolutely retarded if they turned him heel and had nobody to replace him.

I highly doubt that Rock/Brock Mania plan too.Brock/HHH and Cena/Rock for the title is still my prediction.

Beefy78

Beefy78 wrote: »

Do you really think HHH cares about stuff like that these days? He's not an active performer and I'm sure he's far more concerned with the success of the product than with his own win vs loss record.

Yes. Id be shocked if he dosent get that win back against Lesnar.

gnfnrhead

If Cena turns heel, who is going to take the babyface spot? Miz? Del Rio? Orton is the only person even close and he is far better as a heel. Maybe Sheamus but I think he is still quite a bit behind.

andyman

Daniel Bryan would be my pick. He's like a modern day Eddie Guerrero and he's by far the most over star on the roster atm.

DM_7

Another new thread may be needed.....

Tinie

rovert wrote: »

Reddit SCOOPS



http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/162u26/so_heres_the_plan_major_spoilers_for_raw_and/

These kind of scoop BS posts happens far too often on reddit, lad. I wouldn't pay too much heed to it. Not saying it wont happen but as the saying goes, a broken clock is right twice a day.

gnfnrhead

Tinie wrote: »

These kind of scoop BS posts happens far too often on reddit, lad. I wouldn't pay too much heed to it. Not saying it wont happen but as the saying goes, a broken clock is right twice a day.

What if its a digital clock? :pac:

Charisteas

starviewadams wrote: »

Brock/HHH and Cena/Rock for the title is still my prediction.

But that's two rematches from 2012, and would seriously negate my interest. Even if Taker vs Punk was booked alongside that, I couldn't see WrestleMania reaching the 1 million mark with two out of the three main event matches we've already seen in the past 12 months.

JP Liz V1

Am I only person who dont want Brock V Rock again would much prefer Rock V Bryan or even Rock V Ziggler or Ryback

Riddle101

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Am I only person who dont want Brock V Rock again would much prefer Rock V Bryan or even Rock V Ziggler or Ryback

Rock Vs Bryan and Rock Vs Ziggler aren't money matches though. As for Rock and Brock, it should be Brock and Undertaker but I guess that would mean Rock would have to wrestle Cena again wouldn't it.

Bandana boy

Two guys having a title match when neither will work a schedule post Mania !

nuts

gnfnrhead

It's Wrestlemania. Rock is only facing a top, top guy. He's facing Punk at the Rumble leaving only Cena from the full timers left. Cant see a part timer vs part timer match happening. If it did, I reckon it would be Undertaker, something Rock has never done, face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Facing Undertaker at Wrestlemania probably means more than a title match nowadays anyway, definitely means more than facing Lesnar.

gimmick

Split from the rumours thread.

The main WM thread can wait until after the Elimination Chamber PPV.

Loughc

Seeing how Raw didn't give much away with regards WM build, are we still thinking it will be Brock-Rock?

At this stage it'll have to be Lesnar costing Rock the title at RR to get that feud going.

Nody

lockie1983 wrote: »

Seeing how Raw didn't give much away with regards WM build, are we still thinking it will be Brock-Rock?

At this stage it'll have to be Lesnar costing Rock the title at RR to get that feud going.

I'm starting to think triple threat or similar shenigans; Punk/Cena, Brock and Rock. That way they can get away with having the title stay on an active wrestler but still have a Rock vs. Brock fight at Wrestlemania.

The obvious set up would be for Brock to either win a "right for a title shot match" or interfer in a title match and destroy both wrestlers to prove why he should be in the fight/earned the right for a belt match.

Beefy78

Brock would be decent but Undertaker is the one I want, if he's got enough in him to work two matches in two months. Rock wins at the Rumble, celebrates on RAW the next night then the arena goes dark, there's a gong and Undertaker appears to end the show. It'll be a proper Mania main event and a twist on the story we've had the last few years which is people going after Taker and his streak. This would be Taker on the attack trying to get the title belt.

Obviously that's not what I'd expect to happen.

Nody

Problem with putting the belt on Taker is the simple fact he'd not be around afterwards to defend it. I could see a Rock vs. Taker (if Taker is comfortable with Rock, I can't ever see it done with Brock for that reason) legends match or similar but no belt involved and then have a Cena vs. Brock for the belt (yea I'm not overly sold on it but hey Cena will have a top line match for sure).

rovert

Nothing we don't know really:

- A source reported on Monday that WWE has officially locked in the top 4 WrestleMania 29 matches. Last night at RAW they began something a bit different this year with the creative team booking backwards from WrestleMania to now.

Source: F4Wonline.com

Loughc

Speaking of Taker, did anyone else think for a split second during the TLC match on RAW

when the lights went out, that when they came back on, Taker would be in the ring waiting.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Booking backward's?
As oposed too just making it up as they go along?

Nody

Mathew Poor Mimosa wrote: »

Booking backward's?
As oposed too just making it up as they go along?

I think they plan it ahead but a certain someone with the surname ending in "man" makes changes on gut feeling while behind the stage on the day...

hufpc8w3adnk65

Nody wrote: »

I think they plan it ahead but a certain someone with the surname ending in "man" makes changes on gut feeling while behind the stage on the day...

Yup in the Gorilla position changing things as he see's fit.And now his right hand man/son in law next too him was no stranger in his day of never wanting too "do the job" too anyone so he's hardly a good example too people in the locker not too give out if their not going over on a particular night

FutureGuy

Have a tenner bet with a friend that we will see Rock vs Brock II at WM29, although I'm not super excited at anything Brock right now.

Expect Lesnar to interfere in the Rock vs Punk match and "almost" break Rock's arm. DQ win for Rock, thus setting up the match. Lesnar hasn't many Raw dates left in his contract and I don't think Rock will be at Raw every week either so it makes sense that they slow cook it with promos each week and use the live Raw appearances just before WM29.

People know that they will both be leaving and with no title on the line, anyone could win (but of course Rock will).

Mr.Saturn

Rock's is advertised appearing live for every Raw and Smackdown from here 'til Elimination Chamber. I guess that could serve to imply that there'll be a Rock injury angle coming out of EC, leading to Brock/Rock at WM, no?

ricero

rock vs brock, punk vs taker and then maybe a cena led trio against the shield

Big Daddy Cool

Nody wrote: »

Problem with putting the belt on Taker is the simple fact he'd not be around afterwards to defend it

Having the match against The Rock could be the last big wrestlemania match he can have, so maybe he could retire as champion and we'd all be rid of that ghastly spinner belt, then next night on Raw this new belt we've been promised for ages will be unveiled for the winner of a new champ tournament.

gnfnrhead

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

Having the match against The Rock could be the last big wrestlemania match he can have, so maybe he could retire as champion and we'd all be rid of that ghastly spinner belt, then next night on Raw this new belt we've been promised for ages will be unveiled for the winner of a new champ tournament.

I was thinking, if Lesnar sticks around, have Undertaker beat Rock but then get destroyed by Lesnar shortly after. Either right after the match or to end Raw the next night. Undertaker has to vacate due to injury and has a future meeting with Lesnar.

The problem there would be relying on Lesnar to stick around long enough to have the match with Undertaker. I dont think WWE have anyone else who could take out Undertaker like that, maybe the Shield but thats pushing it since they would likely be feuding with someone who would happily come to Undertaker's aid.

JP Liz V1

There was no interaction at all between Cena and Rock on Raw so my guess is Rock V Punk at WM for the WWE title or Rock/Cena V Punk/Lesnar

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lad's it was first Raw of the year...

I wouldnt be banking on anything till deffo after RR maybe even EC

hufpc8w3adnk65

Stone Cold rumoured too be on Raw 20 next week.This time next week we'll prob be guessing who he'll face at WM too

Big Daddy Cool

Mathew Poor Mimosa wrote: »

Stone Cold rumoured too be on Raw 20 next week.This time next week we'll prob be guessing who he'll face at WM too

I wish, unfortunately highly unlikely to happen, due to his recent knee surgery