2010 Honda Civic Hatch Petrol - Good/Bad?

who_ru · 07-01-2013 4:24am #1

Hi all,

i'm going through the motions of trying to decide on what particular car to get. I don't do much mileage a year, 10k kms max. 90% urban, stop/start driving. Petrol engine is fine, hatch or saloon, budget range between 8k to 10k.

although just outside my budget what are your thoughts on this civic?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4376107

currently i have a 02 passat 1.6 petrol, 115,000 miles on the clock, no trouble as such, passenger window needs a new regulator, central locking a bit iffy, nct due next month, don't think i'd get much for it in a trade in.

i should add i'm also considering a hybrid but am not sure about them. plus they are pricey enough.

kneemos · 07-01-2013 7:05am

Don't know if there's a loading for insurance on the new models,the older types were pretty severe,do like the styling though.

Oafley Jones · 07-01-2013 8:28am

kneemos wrote: »

Don't know if there's a loading for insurance on the new models,the older types were pretty severe,do like the styling though.

I was quoted 2 grand for one, which was a bit of a shock. Hybrid of the same year were about 450.

coolisin · 07-01-2013 9:40am

[QUOTE=Oafley Jones;82550913]I was quoted 2 grand for one, which was a bit of a shock. Hybrid of the same year were about 450.[/QUOTE]

What for the new shape :eek::eek:

Saying that what age are you and experience.
They would be a good reliable car to get, there was a few being driven by people here.
Worth looking into definitely.
Although the insurance at that price forget about it!

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 07-01-2013 11:53am

I have one of these in 2007. same as per advert there.

fantastic car. if anything goes wrong with it it's usually my fault but not expensive to fix. servicing is also cheap. half the time the air filter doesn't need to be replaced at all

have long lasting plugs 120kms

my insurance on mine was 2k with no experience and no no claims and being only 19

great car to drive too.

NobodyImportant · 07-01-2013 12:46pm

Have a 2007 one as well, no issues on it so far.

Engine is a bit slow, but it returns up to and over 50mpg on long runs. Very practical thanks to the 'magic seats'.

who_ru · 16-01-2013 2:32pm

Lads,

do you know if these cars have a belt or chain? if it's a belt when does it need to be replaced?

thanks.

Lockster · 16-01-2013 2:57pm

My wife has a 2007 and loves it. Its a timing chain by the way.

Wossack · 16-01-2013 3:06pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4376107

"lady driver"

"..call David on"

JohnBoy26 · 16-01-2013 3:26pm

They're a good car. The saloon version is a better car though.

who_ru · 16-01-2013 10:37pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

They're a good car. The saloon version is a better car though.

why do you think that?

JohnBoy26 · 16-01-2013 11:37pm

who_ru wrote: »

why do you think that?

Because the hatchback is based on the Jazz platform which means it only got a torsion bar semi independent rear suspension. The Saloon on the otherhand is based on it's own Civic platform with fully independent rear suspension making it a more refined and better handling car than the hatchback. Another thing id rather in the saloon is the hydraulic power steering. The hatchback has electric power steering.

NobodyImportant · 17-01-2013 9:04am

If you were buying the 1.8 litre engine and didnt need the hatchback, the Saloon is the better car. The Saloon didnt come in 1.4 litre form though.

CreepingDeath · 17-01-2013 9:27am

NobodyImportant wrote: »

Have a 2007 one as well, no issues on it so far.

I've the 1.8 litre 2007 version and happy with it.
I love the 'magic seats' to increase the boot size.

Some things I didn't like
1) visibility through the rear split window is annoying
2) mine is the executive version and has rain sensor windscreen wipers, but
I'd prefer full manual control over them. I've just got off, auto, and full
speed. I can't manually set a low frequency intermittant wipe
3) maybe because mine has more gadgets ( gps, voice recognition etc ), if I turn the ignition on but don't start the engine within a couple of seconds it struggles to start.
But if I start the engine immediately... no bother. I replaced the battery, it's fine. Just a small battery for so much electronics.
4) it didn't come with a spare tyre as standard, I had to pay Honda €200 for a spare space saver tyre which hides in a hidden compartment under the boot.
Otherwise, there's a mini air compressor and flat tyre filling aerosol hidden in the left or right panels in the boot.
5) if you have built-in gps, then the upgrade dvd is around €200 unless you're a techy and good at google searching

And it costs around €70 to fill up the tank.

colm_mcm · 17-01-2013 11:44am

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I've the 1.8 litre 2007 version and happy with it..

i have an 07 too and i can switch the auto wipers off. There's a rotary switch on the stalk (same as fog light switch on the indicator stalk) for variable delay, if its turned all the way back its on auto, but if you turn it it varies the wiper delay time.

CreepingDeath · 17-01-2013 5:00pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

i have an 07 too and i can switch the auto wipers off. There's a rotary switch on the stalk (same as fog light switch on the indicator stalk) for variable delay, if its turned all the way back its on auto, but if you turn it it varies the wiper delay time.

Yeah, I see the auto/, low and high settings.
I think I was hoping for more fine tuning/selection of wiper speed using the wheel on the stalk which selects the rain sensor sensitivity.

I think I'll dig out the PDF of the user guide again for a browse... RTFM !

thanks

colm_mcm · 17-01-2013 6:11pm

It doesn't adjust the sensitivity though. Eg if its not raining and you switch it from auto, the wipers will be on

Green Hornet · 17-01-2013 8:17pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Another thing id rather in the saloon is the hydraulic power steering. The hatchback has electric power steering.

Nope - they both have EPS (electric power steering). I had the saloon for a couple of years and the EPS module was replaced due to an intermittent fault, free by Honda.

coolbeans · 17-01-2013 9:37pm

A buddy of mine has one of these, also 2007. Although I personally hate the styling and think it has dated terribly there's no denying that it's been a great little motor. The cabin is lovely, he's had no problems at all and it returns 47mpg all day with mixed driving. He has a light enough foot though but many of us are the same these days... FWIW the mileage is recorded from fill to fill and not calculated by the computer.

Pottler · 17-01-2013 11:18pm

I'll be the contrarian then, and say I think they are a bit poor. If you bought a Honda ten years ago, you were guaranteed a great car. Now, you are guaranteed a new steering rack and software issues. If it's an auto or a diesel, more grief. Usually at great expense. Suspension issues rear their heads a lot as well. Good, but not good like they used to be. I am wearing my rubber jacket now, waiting for the bullets.:)

JohnBoy26 · 17-01-2013 11:35pm

Green Hornet wrote: »

Nope - they both have EPS (electric power steering). I had the saloon for a couple of years and the EPS module was replaced due to an intermittent fault, free by Honda.

Sorry yes you are correct. I was thinking of the previous model for some reason :rolleyes:

colm_mcm · 17-01-2013 11:45pm

Pottler wrote: »

I'll be the contrarian then, and say I think they are a bit poor. If you bought a Honda ten years ago, you were guaranteed a great car. Now, you are guaranteed a new steering rack and software issues. If it's an auto or a diesel, more grief. Usually at great expense. Suspension issues rear their heads a lot as well. Good, but not good like they used to be. I am wearing my rubber jacket now, waiting for the bullets.:)

What would you buy instead, basing it on never having to fix anything?

JohnBoy26 · 17-01-2013 11:52pm

Pottler wrote: »

I'll be the contrarian then, and say I think they are a bit poor. If you bought a Honda ten years ago, you were guaranteed a great car. Now, you are guaranteed a new steering rack and software issues. If it's an auto or a diesel, more grief. Usually at great expense. Suspension issues rear their heads a lot as well. Good, but not good like they used to be. I am wearing my rubber jacket now, waiting for the bullets.:)

I agree with you that the Hondas of old were a nicer built car but the newer ones aren't as bad as what you say at all.

Squ · 17-01-2013 11:55pm

Pottler wrote: »

I'll be the contrarian then, and say I think they are a bit poor. If you bought a Honda ten years ago, you were guaranteed a great car. Now, you are guaranteed a new steering rack and software issues. If it's an auto or a diesel, more grief. Usually at great expense. Suspension issues rear their heads a lot as well. Good, but not good like they used to be. I am wearing my rubber jacket now, waiting for the bullets.:)

Is this only your experience, or combined with general knowledge?

Having put 300,000 on a 07 2.2 diesel, i cant fault it. Everything is original, bar tyres, pads, oil, and filters.

Pottler · 18-01-2013 12:06am

Squ wrote: »

Is this only your experience, or combined with general knowledge?

Having put 300,000 on a 07 2.2 diesel, i cant fault it. Everything is original, bar tyres, pads, oil, and filters.

Good stuff, but for me, the bar on your average Honda is set very high and they set it themselves by their excellent past quality. Too many steering rack failures and too many expensive faults on the new generation cars-rack failure is seemingly guaranteed on the newer civics. For every happy Honda diesel customer, there's a lot who arent.

JohnBoy26 · 18-01-2013 12:15am

Pottler wrote: »

Good stuff, but for me, the bar on your average Honda is set very high and they set it themselves by their excellent past quality. Too many steering rack failures and too many expensive faults on the new generation cars-rack failure is seemingly guaranteed on the newer civics. For every happy Honda diesel customer, there's a lot who arent.

I know of an accord that this happened to. It cost the owner a pretty penny to put right. pity cause they're a nice car.

Squ · 18-01-2013 12:16am

Pottler wrote: »

Good stuff, but for me, the bar on your average Honda is set very high and they set it themselves by their excellent past quality. Too many steering rack failures and too many expensive faults on the new generation cars-rack failure is seemingly guaranteed on the newer civics. For every happy Honda diesel customer, there's a lot who arent.

Yeah, but who though?

Pottler · 18-01-2013 7:40am

Squ wrote: »

Yeah, but who though?

Jim. Jim was bulling alltogether. Anyone with a Jazz with the CVT transmission wil also not be aying as many nice things and Accord diesels with total engine failure are anything but scarce. Honda are a great car, like I said, I'm just being contrarian, but their previous absolutely amazing standards are just slipping a bit, much like every other japanese manufacturer. Still more reliable than anything else though. I stand by the Civic steering rack issue though, and the diesel failures, and the cvt transmissions.:) Oh yeah, and the srs ecu dies as well, so be wary of airbag lights, it's not just the sensor under the seat needing changing..

2010 Honda Civic Hatch Petrol - Good/Bad?

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