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Milan players walk off because of Racist Chanting

  • 03-01-2013 3:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭


    BBC reporting AC milan players have walked off the field during a friendly game because of racist chanting towards KP Boateng


    BBC reporting it as;

    "More on the AC Milan players walking off during a friendly against Pro Patria because of racist chanting. Kevin Prince Boateng was in possession on the left wing in the 26th minute, suddenly picked the ball up and smashed it towards the stand behind him.

    The Ghana midfielder then tore off his shirt and walked off the field at the opposite end. On his way, he applauded other sections of the crowd, who then appeared to react angrily towards the corner of the ground from which the chants came.

    Pro Patria's Dario Alberto Polverini attempted to talk to Boateng as he departed, but the midfielder carried on walking and the rest of the players and officials followed him off the pitch."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    jeez Italians everwhere today having hissy fits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Dante


    Fair play to him, only wish he could have sculled somebody in the crowd with the ball.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Leiva wrote: »
    hissy fits.

    Nice downplaying of racism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    could he have not gone over to the bench and asked to be subbed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    Nice downplaying of racism.

    Oh go away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    could he have not gone over to the bench and asked to be subbed?

    you're joking surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Well done to him, however it could be a dangerous precedent

    Not saying this wasnt justified as it appears rather blatant by the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Iang87 wrote: »
    you're joking surely?

    Something like this could cause major crowd trouble

    then what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,445 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I don't agree with racist chanting but I don't think that walking off is the right move either. I think people have to stick it out and use it as a motivational factor to play better. They should ignore these people completely as any reaction makes the perpetrator feel like they've won. These guys are idiots but they will be bragging to their friends about how they stopped a football game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    so control crowd trouble by allowing racism to that extent. The only option cannot be for him to not take part because he's getting abused by the crowd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Leiva wrote: »
    jeez Italians everwhere today having hissy fits.

    You couldn't be more out of touch could you?

    It's not a 'hissy fit'. If you were being racially abused you have every right to react how KPB did.

    It's you and your ilk passing racism off as a mere 'hissy fits' are keeping this game in the stone ages. Bravo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't agree with racist chanting but I don't think that walking off is the right move either. I think people have to stick it out and use it as a motivational factor to play better. They should ignore these people completely as any reaction makes the perpetrator feel like they've won. These guys are idiots but they will not be bragging to their friends about how they stopped a football game.

    I'll disagree on the basis I hope people arent that pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Something like this could cause major crowd trouble

    then what?
    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't agree with racist chanting but I don't think that walking off is the right move either. I think people have to stick it out and use it as a motivational factor to play better. They should ignore these people completely as any reaction makes the perpetrator feel like they've won. These guys are idiots but they will not be bragging to their friends about how they stopped a football game.

    ridiculous, its up to the home fans to control their own levels of scum. They arent fit to be played in front of. and the fact that it was a friendly makes it worse.

    cant believe you think its acceptable to sub yourself off and make it okay....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Absolutely the correct decision. Fair play and well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't agree with racist chanting but I don't think that walking off is the right move either. I think people have to stick it out and use it as a motivational factor to play better. They should ignore these people completely as any reaction makes the perpetrator feel like they've won. These guys are idiots but they will be bragging to their friends about how they stopped a football game.

    Or else the rest of the non racist fans will give them stick for ****ing up the game for everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    It might force UEFA/FIFA to do something about the problem if teams walk off.

    The only problem is though, that they will prob fine a club walking off more than the racists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It might force UEFA/FIFA to do something about the problem if teams walk off.

    The only problem is though, that they will prob fine a club walking off more than the racists

    If racism is found out on the terraces then games should be played without the fans present. Very simple.

    Fining does nothing.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,614 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Leiva wrote: »
    jeez Italians everwhere today having hissy fits.

    Oh cop the f*uck on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,445 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    listermint wrote: »
    ridiculous, its up to the home fans to control their own levels of scum. They arent fit to be played in front of. and the fact that it was a friendly makes it worse.

    cant believe you think its acceptable to sub yourself off and make it okay....
    I don't think he should sub himself off. I think he should learn to be above it. The way to do that is to use it as a motivational tool to play even better. You will see other idiots doing the same thing now that a game has been stopped over it.

    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it and dismiss it as something that people who lack intelligence lower themselves to.

    Any and all publicity for those idiots is a bad thing imo as it will only attract more of the same fools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't think he should sub himself off. I think he should learn to be above it. The way to do that is to use it as a motivational tool to play even better. You will see other idiots doing the same thing now that a game has been stopped over it.

    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it and dismiss it as something that people who lack intelligence lower themselves to.

    Any and all publicity for those idiots is a bad thing imo as it will only attract more of the same fools.

    Life doesnt work like that im afraid.

    Close up the terraces. Then have their own fans police this sort of behaviour. See how long it lasts then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    Fair play to Boateng, that was the right decision in unfortunate circumstances. Nobody should have to play in front of sustained racist abuse. If there was any cheer to be had here then it was the rest of the crowd (apparently) turning on the racists
    eagle eye wrote:
    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it and dismiss it as something that people who lack intelligence lower themselves to
    So the best way to tackle racism is to establish an environment in which it's tolerated? No, just no. That's unbelievable moral cowardice: asking players to ignore racial slurs and taunts just because you don't feel they're worth responding to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't think he should sub himself off. I think he should learn to be above it. The way to do that is to use it as a motivational tool to play even better. You will see other idiots doing the same thing now that a game has been stopped over it.

    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it and dismiss it as something that people who lack intelligence lower themselves to.

    Any and all publicity for those idiots is a bad thing imo as it will only attract more of the same fools.

    You've obviously never been racially abused if you deem it so easy to just shrug off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Crash Bang Wall


    listermint wrote: »
    If racism is found out on the terraces then games should be played without the fans present. Very simple.

    Fining does nothing.

    I agree with that, Im just stating what I think UEFA & FIFA will actually do rather than what they should be doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Leiva


    He should have stayed on the pitch cause its only playing into the hands of the scum by walking off. beat the opposition and hoepfully the club/fans get banned for a couple games. maybe behind closed doors etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Right, everyone's entitled to an opinion on the matter and by the looks of things most people have missed Leiva's obvious joke regarding Balotelli.

    ffs KPB isnt even Italian :rolleyes:

    Nobody is condoning Racism but ye're all allowed have an opinion on what KBP should have or have not done.

    Now lets keep it on topic, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,445 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Reekwind wrote: »

    So the best way to tackle racism is to establish an environment in which it's tolerated? No, just no. That's unbelievable moral cowardice: asking players to ignore racial slurs and taunts just because you don't feel they're worth responding to
    I always look long term at these things. I don't believe that moral outrage will get rid of it because younger people like to rebel.

    I firmly believe that teaching people that its something that only dysfunctional, less intelligent people lower themselves to is the way to stamp it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    If a player feels like the best thing to do is walk off when the racism is so blatant he should IMO.

    UEFA/FIFA have to be a lot tougher on nations that have in the past shown to be racist but the fines and punishments they hand out are nothing but tiny slaps on the wrist to national FA's.

    Totally irridacting racism from the game will be near impossible as they're will always be sections or minorities that house idiots and thugs that will look to cause trouble.

    Supporter bans and heavy fines and possible points sanctions should be recommended if it continues to happen at national or international level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I always look long term at these things. I don't believe that moral outrage will get rid of it because younger people like to rebel
    The long-term picture is that racist gestures/chanting are increasingly deemed unacceptable in football grounds because people have stood up and declared it so, not by appeasing the racists. The assumption that KPB should have let this abuse wash over him would not be out of place in 1970s England. That attitude didn't go away (if not far enough) because of some silent disapproval but due to legislation, fines, better stewarding, CCTV, increasing awareness, etc, etc. It's in countries where these anti-racism measures were not effectively deployed (such as Spain) that mass racist chants still marr the stands

    The only way to make racism unacceptable is to declare it unacceptable and act to enforce this. I dispute the notion that this suddenly makes the next generation more likely to hurl racial abuse at players


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    Racism is not something a player "should rise above". It shouldn't be part of the game AT ALL. I fully agree with KPB doing what he did. No player should have to put up with this **** from other players, staff, or fans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    I think the real issue here is why he feels the need to wear a sports bra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    He was right to walk off. FIFA/UEFA should be ashamed for their pussy footing around the issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Right thing was done. More should follow if same situation arises.

    Something has to be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    My only regret on this situation would be that KPB and Milan didnt walk of in a more high profile match UEFa as its a friendly will do there best to sweep this quietly under the carpet.

    If it happened in a more high profile game it might finally once and for all force them to act beyond the usual paltry fines they hand out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Fair play to him, agree that this needs to happen in high profile games as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Were they Milan fans or Pro Patria fans?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Have to applaud the guy (ex-Spurs as well!), a real Rosa Parks moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    eagle eye wrote: »

    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it
    Jesus wept.

    Yes because ignorance is a perfectly valid response and has been for oh, a few hundred years now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't think he should sub himself off. I think he should learn to be above it. The way to do that is to use it as a motivational tool to play even better. You will see other idiots doing the same thing now that a game has been stopped over it.

    I firmly believe that the way to stamp out racial chants and slurs is to completely ignore it and dismiss it as something that people who lack intelligence lower themselves to.

    Any and all publicity for those idiots is a bad thing imo as it will only attract more of the same fools.

    on the first part. Wow. i really dont know what you can say to that.

    on the second part. Well it hasnt worked so far, ignoring it like uefa has. So perhaps its time for something to be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,445 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    event wrote: »
    on the first part. Wow. i really dont know what you can say to that.

    on the second part. Well it hasnt worked so far, ignoring it like uefa has. So perhaps its time for something to be done.
    I'd love to see a player that has been racially abused during a game get interviewed afterwards say something like 'Its sad to see people like this who are less intelligent than the average person, I actually pity them.'

    There are studies which have shown that younger people with lower IQs are more likely to be racist. They just find it difficult to deal with society and as long as there is a reaction to it they get their satisfaction and feel smarter because they were able to emotionally upset somebody else.

    The incident in Limerick with the banana where Gael Clichy tweeted
    How sad to see "bananas thrown on the pitch" tonight... Knowing people around the world need food. #nowordsforthis

    Thats putting yourself on a higher plain than the fool who did that. Gael Clichy won with his intelligent comment imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I'd love to see a player that has been racially abused during a game get interviewed afterwards say something like 'Its sad to see people like this who are less intelligent than the average person, I actually pity them.'

    There are studies which have shown that younger people with lower IQs are more likely to be racist. They just find it difficult to deal with society and as long as there is a reaction to it they get their satisfaction and feel smarter because they were able to emotionally upset somebody else.

    Are you actually trying to imply that racists are less intelligent than non-racists? And then your 'proof' is that people with low IQs are more likely to be racist, which is irrelevant. You should be 'proving' that people who are racists have low IQs.

    If a player actually said the bolded part it wouldn't solve anything bar make that player look like a massive twat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I applaud them for walking off. It's time these racists realised they don't have the right to strip a man of his dignity as part of their tribal machismo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭augustus gloop


    KPB has done more to highlight racism in 5 minutes than UFEA has done in 10 years. a chitty 65000 fine for the serbian FA??? WTF?
    I can understand the people talking about crowd violence here, but he had to do it IMO. asking to be subbed would not gain the worldwide response it has gotten. who in the world has the right to jeer anyone over the colour of their skin, 100% justified here.
    If Platini the useless coward was brave enough to do his job, incidents like these would not happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,107 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Lucky Van Persie wasn't in the crowd he could have killed him.

    I'm here all week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Lucky Van Persie wasn't in the crowd he could have killed him.

    I'm here all week.

    You colour blind?;)


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    Highlights the issue for sure and fair fcuks to him for doing it.

    I wonder if someone walked off for being called a paedophile/gay slurs/rapist whatever would it have the same support?

    Where is the line is probably what I'm asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,585 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Nice downplaying of racism.

    Liverpool fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Savman wrote: »
    Jesus wept.

    Yes because ignorance is a perfectly valid response and has been for oh, a few hundred years now.

    Jesus wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    The problem with 'sticking it out' and playing on until the end, and FIFA doing something about it after is it doesn't affect the flow of football, a game gets played and there's some minor fine afterwards, with the incident forgotten after about 2 days, we've seen it all before many times. None of the authorities will lose sleep over it

    If a game is stopped for a player walking off, then it will make much bigger news, and FIFA will almost certainly have to take action against it, they wouldn't want their beloved image tarnished any more than it already is.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I say fair play to him, doesn't have to take that sort of abuse.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,901 ✭✭✭RayCon


    He was completely correct to walk off and fair play to him. Nobody should be expected to suffer racisim in their workplace - professional sports is no different.


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