WWE Royal Rumble 2013 Pre Show Thread *Spoilers*

JP Liz V1

So far we have CM Punk Vs. The Rock for the WWE Title and the rumble match itself (Ryback looking a early favourite contender to win this, would prefer D Bryan winning myself)

Stereomaniac

I said during the Summer that I wouldn't be surprised if we see John Cena "overcome the odds" and win the Royal Rumble, to set up TWICE In A Lifetime. I really hope that I'm wrong though.

Rjd2

Ryback winning this is a lock, especially after losing quite a bit on PPV. I'd also put good money on him facing Show at Mania.

Cena will probably win the elimination chamber setting up a match at Mania with The Rock.

Stereomaniac

I really wish they would return to the formula that made it so exciting to watch for years though, whereby the winner of the battle royal was automatically gunning for the WWF Champion.

DM_7

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I really wish they would return to the formula that made it so exciting to watch for years though, whereby the winner of the battle royal was automatically gunning for the WWF Champion.

While the WWE title is the most important one and bookes as such - they are never going to go out of the way and say it. If they did the WHC would be pointless.

ciano316

Sheamo or Cena to win the Rumble.

Stereomaniac

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Sheamus winning it again, if he was going after The Rock then.

gnfnrhead

What's the chances of Undertaker entering to set up his Wrestlemania match? He eliminates someone, they come back in and eliminate him. Easy. He could do with facing a younger guy this year to give him a huge match, the problem is who.

If Rock wins the title, I wouldn't mind Punk. Not much else for him at Wrestlemania if he loses the title and doesn't win it back. Problem is he won't be in the Rumble so it would need a different set up.

That would make Wrestlemania look like this:
Rock defends vs Cena
Smackdown champ defends vs Ryback
Undertaker vs Punk
Probably Triple H getting his win back against Lesnar too.

lebowskilite

They surely can't let Ryback win the thing and go to wrestlemania when he still can't work a decent match. Then again, Sheamus spent 20 minutes in the rumble last year for the sake of an 18 second squash match as his prize...

chopperbyrne

Taker to enter. He and Ryback will eliminate each other. Taker to bow out at Mania by looking at the lights for Ryback.

Bryan to win the Rumble.

mrkiscool2

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Taker to enter. He and Ryback will eliminate each other. Taker to bow out at Mania by looking at the lights for Ryback.

Bryan to win the Rumble.

THIS! I think Taker will lose his streak eventually, and has said he wouldn't mind giving a younger guy the honour of doing it. Whilst I would love to see this, I don't think it will happen!

Ryback to win Rumble and face Big Show, Rock to face either Punk or Cena at Wrestlemania after defeating Punk, and Taker will face Lesnar at Wrestlemania after Lesnar gloats he can be the one to break the streak.

Rjd2

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Ryback to win Rumble and face Big Show, Rock to face either Punk or Cena at Wrestlemania after defeating Punk, and Taker will face Lesnar at Wrestlemania after Lesnar gloats he can be the one to break the streak.

I'd agree with all that, but Taker v Lesnar? Surely Trips will get his win back?

mrkiscool2

Rjd2 wrote: »

I'd agree with all that, but Taker v Lesnar? Surely Trips will get his win back?

I just have a gut feeling that Lesnar will piss off Taker, but Trips getting his win back would also be interesting to watch. I just think Taker Lesnar would be great!

Rjd2

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

I just have a gut feeling that Lesnar will piss off Taker, but Trips getting his win back would also be interesting to watch. I just think Taker Lesnar would be great!

Oh yeah, personally I would prefer Taker v Brock, but I just think Brock v Trips is more likely. Taker v Punk is a match I could see happening, while Rock v Cena and Show v Ryback the other main events.

SirDelboy18

If they waste the last Lesnar match on Triple H then I will be seriously annoyed. He is the last person that needs it, and even putting that aside, their last match was pretty bad.

gnfnrhead

SirDelboy18 wrote: »

If they waste the last Lesnar match on Triple H then I will be seriously annoyed. He is the last person that needs it, and even putting that aside, their last match was pretty bad.

Doesnt matter. Triple H always gets his win.

Remember his awful match with Steiner? I think he lost by DQ so they did it again just to give him his win.

Stereomaniac

No, I don't remember that match. But I heard that Big Poppa Pump was refusing to take a wellness test unless Triple H took one and he could see the results. Citation needed on that one!

GTR63

Stereomaniac wrote: »

No, I don't remember that match. But I heard that Big Poppa Pump was refusing to take a wellness test unless Triple H took one and he could see the results. Citation needed on that one!

Oh please let that test part be true. Trust me when you hear the match is not worth tracking down but the Angle vs Benoit match that night was a cracker.

gnfnrhead

Stereomaniac wrote: »

No, I don't remember that match. But I heard that Big Poppa Pump was refusing to take a wellness test unless Triple H took one and he could see the results. Citation needed on that one!

Steiner was massive at the time so not to be outdone, Triple H packed on the muscle too. As you're probably aware, Triple H's wrestling ability decreased as he got bigger after the DX split. Being bigger than ever meant he was slower than ever. Steiner isnt exactly quick either so it made for a very slow, dull and generally just awful match that felt like it lasted about an hour. Nobody in their right mind would book a rematch for the next PPV but because Triple H lost, they did exactly that.

I think Undertaker at Mania is the only time Triple H hasnt gotten the win back. But he would have gotten his fair share of victories on other shows through the years so they are probably about even overall. With Triple H losing 1-0 to Lesnar, there is no chance of them not doing a rematch, especially when Lesnar could fuck off again and never come back after Wrestlemania.

I'll be shocked if it doesnt happen at some point. It's too close to the Rumble now so Wrestlemania seems the obvious choice.

srm23

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Steiner was massive at the time so not to be outdone, Triple H packed on the muscle too. As you're probably aware, Triple H's wrestling ability decreased as he got bigger after the DX split.

he had his best years when he got in great shape after DX around 2000
i defo dont think his best period was during/pre-DX!

i dont wanna see Lesnar vs taker so dont really care if these guys have a rematch

the groutch

I'm predicting Kane & Bryan are the last two, and end up joint winnners when they hit the floor at the same time.

ebbsy

Anyone still remember 1992 ? The look on Hogan's face ??!!!

gnfnrhead

srm23 wrote: »

he had his best years when he got in great shape after DX around 2000
i defo dont think his best period was during/pre-DX!

i dont wanna see Lesnar vs taker so dont really care if these guys have a rematch

And as he kept packing on the muscle he got worse.

krudler

ebbsy wrote: »

Anyone still remember 1992 ? The look on Hogan's face ??!!!

Bobby Heenan was on fire that night

Furious-Red

At this time, there is reportedly growing concern within WWE as to whether or not CM Punk vs. The Rock at The Royal Rumble is a wise move. The Rumble is a pay-per-view that tends to sell itself and has traditionally always been one of the most purchased PPVs throughout the years. The concern is over whether or not having The Rock in a high profile match at the Rumble is the best use of WWE’s time and focus.

There are some WWE officials who feel that with The Rock appearing at the pay-per-view, the attention paid to the Royal Rumble match will be less than what it should be from both an advertising and creative standpoint.

Currently there is no set plan or path on exactly what is going to happen regarding The Rock at the Royal Rumble and the road to WrestleMania. A few months ago, people would have stated that it was a sure thing The Rock wins the title at Rumble. But now there is less certainty as WWE is said to have not made final decisions on any of the high profile names, feuds and matches for WrestleMania 29. They will be working heavily on this over the next several weeks.

DM_7

Of course its a wise move, they spent the last 6 months building towards it!

gnfnrhead

Am I reading that right? They arent sure about him wrestling on the show like they have been advertising for months on end?

GTR63

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Am I reading that right? They arent sure about him wrestling on the show like they have been advertising for months on end?

They should of had him wrestle at Survivor Series the Royal Rumble match alone still draws a lot more than any match that show offered but still WWE have us expected the Rock match at the Rumble and thats what we are wanting now.

Machismo Fan

Just rewatched the '07 Rumble, the 'Taker/Michaels final two is spectacularly special.

Big Daddy Cool

Personally my 2 choices of what i want to see happen is:

Lesnar cost Rock the title and set up the Brock Rock match at Mania or

Lesnar as entrant number 30 win the Rumble after Rock wins the title to set up Brock Rock at Mania.

neither will happen of course due to HHH and Taker wanting a great big piece of that wrestlemania pie.

lebowskilite

Cena better not win the rumble. But he will do. Oh God, it's like my worst nightmare being repeated over and over again. Maybe if I legally purchase the royal rumble this year, the result will be more to my liking... *delirious desperation*

DM_7

If they wanted to this could be the best Mania line up in years so hopefully they want it to be.

for me that means I am hoping Cena fails miserably in the Rumble Match, with luck Dolph will eliminate him (after he appeared to be out of the match but Big E catches him again), stops his feet hitting the ground).

Ryback to win and beat Show at Mania?

Jericho return, set up something with the Shield and maybe team Hell No for Mania.

Sheamus to Eliminate Orton who then RKO's Sheamus in anger. Again set something up for Mania.

Brock appears at some point in Punk v Rock.

Bounty Hunter

DM-ICE wrote: »

If they wanted to this could be the best Mania line up in years so hopefully they want it to be.

for me that means I am hoping Cena fails miserably in the Rumble Match, with luck Dolph will eliminate him (after he appeared to be out of the match but Big E catches him again), stops his feet hitting the ground).

Ryback to win and beat Show at Mania?

Jericho return, set up something with the Shield and maybe team Hell No for Mania.

Sheamus to Eliminate Orton who then RKO's Sheamus in anger. Again set something up for Mania.

Brock appears at some point in Punk v Rock.

I like the sound of most of that but where would that leave Punk / The WWE title match at mania?

unless it was a Punk, Rock, Brock triple threat

or Punk vs Rock rematch while Taker removes Brock from the equation

Bounty Hunter

actually What a major push it would be for Ziggler if he cashed in MITB on The Rock as champ! could actually happen if they put the strap on him at the Rumble too as Rock's schedule wouldn't exactly suit having him as a long term champ.


**not that I expect that**

Loughc

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

actually What a major push it would be for Ziggler if he cashed in MITB on The Rock as champ! could actually happen if they put the strap on him at the Rumble too as Rock's schedule wouldn't exactly suit having him as a long term champ.


**not that I expect that**

Isn't Ziggler's MITB for the World Heavyweight Championship tho and not the WWE championship which the Rock will be going for?

DM_7

Do Rock v Brock v Cena.

Keeps the once in a lifetime from last year. In the past Rock beat Cena, Cena beat Brock and Brock beat Rock.

Punk v Taker
Ryback (Rumble winner) v Show (WHC)
Sheamus v Orton
Shield v Jericho and Team Hell No
Ziggler v Del Rio
Rey v Sin Cara

I would pay for that mania - twice.

Rock v Cena
Brock v HHH
would be okay but both matches were done already so a bit of a letdown it thats what we get.

DM-ICE

DM-ICE wrote: »

Rock v Cena
Brock v HHH
would be okay but both matches were done already so a bit of a letdown it thats what we get.

I would be very dissapointed if these 2 matches happen at this years WM even more so if/when its just a reverse of the last matches with Cena/HHH getting a win.

Big Daddy Cool

DM-ICE wrote: »

Do Rock v Brock v Cena.

Keeps the once in a lifetime from last year. In the past Rock beat Cena, Cena beat Brock and Brock beat Rock.

Noooooooooooooooooooo :eek:, I would probably smash my new tele at the end when without a shadow of a doubt, Cena is there standing over both Rock and Brock, this just cant happen.

kksaints

I would be hoping more for a Rock vs Punk vs Cena match at Wrestlemania and have Brock vs Taker. Put HHH in the shield storyline in some way like having the shield attack him at the Rumble or something and have a six or eight man tag with the shield and Maddox vs HHH, Jericho, Orton and Sheamus. Ryback to win the rumble and have him against Show for the WHC.

Personally I would dislike another Rock vs Cena (singles match) and HHH vs Brock. Also would be somewhat dissapointed with a Punk vs Taker match. Just doesnt seem special enough imo.

lebowskilite

Cena needs a big win soon (not my opinion, but I bet WWE think so). He can either win the Rumble or win big at Wrestlemania. I'm a rumble purist, and I was supporting Cena at WMXXVIII because Dwayne pissed me off so much in the run-up.

If Cena loses at the rumble, I won't begrudge him a victorious "twice in a lifetime" rematch. The only way I can see Brock v Cena happening is if Brock demands it (kayfabe) to make up for the loss last year, but I can't see Brock legitimately wanting to do that if Cena is going to win again.

So, basically, my worries all stem from how Cena is going to be booked. He's like a big wrecking ball and creative just have to steer him clear of other stories/characters/etc., but they're not very good at that.

Other Awesome Things That Could Happen:
Bryan vs. Cody (Beard vs. Tash) or Sandow (Beard vs. Beard) or one of them against Kane instead (mask vs. beard/tash). There's loads for Hell No to do... I wonder will creative even keep them going long enough to do it?
Undertaker vs. Bryan (w/ Kane) at Wrestlemania? Could be a really fun set-up with Kane's loyalties being pulled hither n tither.
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Big Daddy Cool

lebowskilite wrote: »

I was supporting Cena at WMXXVIII because Dwayne pissed me off so much in the run-up.

why what did he do, i found his Rock concert highly entertaining until the end part and i taught his Cena merch skit in Boston was terrific to, more important his promos leading upto the match were excellant as well, made me want to watch even though i taught cena would win.

If anybody pissed anybody off it was Cena, i remember a serious type promo Rock was doing in ring with Cena (could've been the 2nd or last raw before Mania) and all he done was pull stupid faces and laugh towards his father and then wife at ringside, now had i been Rock that would have pissed me off and he should've just went into business for himself and knocked the head off cena and see how funny he taught that would've been.

Bounty Hunter

lockie1983 wrote: »

Isn't Ziggler's MITB for the World Heavyweight Championship tho and not the WWE championship which the Rock will be going for?

yep thats right, brain fart on my part there

DM_7

Can anyone see Punk actually beating the Rock - Not just defending the title in some cop out fashion but actually pinning the Great one?

Bounty Hunter

Strangely I can, but i'd be far more confident of it if it was at Mania as then it wouldnt hurt Rock's momentum before his Mania match vs whoever (which hit seems he will have) meanwhile it could be a defining moment for Punk, overcoming peoples expectations and keeping his run as champ going.

However at the Rumble if I was a betting man I wouldnt expect a clean win, if Punk wins at all, a Lesnar assisted victory setting up Rock vs Lesnar or something similar would make more sense if punk was to get a victory.

Big Daddy Cool

DM-ICE wrote: »

Can anyone see Punk actually beating the Rock - Not just defending the title in some cop out fashion but actually pinning the Great one?

Not me anyway, thats why i want Brock to cost Rock and set up the match at Mania.

Punk then claims he has beaten them all from the attitude era, Taker walks out as the American Badass and ahhh thats never going to happen, i know.

grames_bond

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

Not me anyway, thats why i want Brock to cost Rock and set up the match at Mania.

Punk then claims he has beaten them all from the attitude era, Taker walks out as the American Badass and Then the Glass Shatters and out storms Austin and ahhh thats never going to happen, i know.

FYP - but kept the last part as that won't happen either!! :pac:

Big Daddy Cool

grames_bond wrote: »

FYP - but kept the last part as that won't happen either!! :pac:

Oh i'd wet myself if that happened , Austin was my 1st choice but i remembered he had his knee done and would'nt be able to go, so went with Taker

gnfnrhead

Big Daddy Cool wrote: »

Punk then claims he has beaten them all from the attitude era, Taker walks out as the American Badass and ahhh thats never going to happen, i know.

But that wasnt Attitude Era?

gnfnrhead

gnfnrhead wrote: »

But that wasnt Attitude Era?

Id count 2000 as part of the Attitude era.

The attitude era to me is Survivor Series 97 - Wrestlemania 17.

Penn

gnfnrhead wrote: »

But that wasnt Attitude Era?

It was. American Badass Taker first appeared at Judgement Day 2000. Attitude Era ended on Wrestlemania X7 in 2001 (Austin heel turn and shaking hands with McMahon is generally known as the end of the Attitude Era). So American Badass Taker was around for almost a year before the end of the Attitude Era

gnfnrhead

I wouldnt count it. Ministry Undertaker is the Attitude Era Undertaker. ABA for me is always associated with the awful Invasion.