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Are we all going to get brain tumours?

  • 28-12-2012 8:41pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭


    20 years ago the only thing that sent a signal in the house might have been the remote control.

    Now we have beams going everywhere.

    Wireless router, mobile phone, wireless mouse, wireless keyboard, wireless headphones, wireless PS3 and I can pick up a strong saorview signal from a little aerial placed under the table my tv is on, wireless speakers ect. ect.

    Beams all over the place. :eek:

    No conspiracy stuff just do we simply not know the long term effect this might be having on us.

    In 50 years time will our grandchildren look back the same way we now look back on smokers 50 years ago

    and we all know smokers are jokers.

    Mobile phones can cause brain tumours, court rules.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Run To Da Hills has got some competition at last. He won't be pleased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Wearing a tinfoil hat protects you....keeps the voices at bay as well:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Doubt it! changing the subject ever so slightly... I always get a tingling sensation on my head. Very annoying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    I'd be worried more about all the radiation from cosmic rays while flying long distance flights. That's more proven than radio and wireless waves of causing tumours as cosmic rays over long term really can while the latter has never been proven to do so.

    In other words not at all worried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I am just glad someone different started a thread.....yay brain tumors.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    kincsem wrote: »
    Run To Da Hills has got some competition at last. He won't be pleased.
    Wearing a tinfoil hat protects you....keeps the voices at bay as well:D

    I have all the devices I mentioned above, I'm just wondering about the effects of all these beams/rays in the long term.

    Maybe I should take it to personal issues. :(

    *wipes tear, takes off Alex Jones t shirt and throws it in the fire*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I can't help but doubt the Italian legal system having a landmark case in anything...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/23/italian-scientist-earthquake-condemns-court

    I wouldn't say for definite that there isn't potential unknown dangers of mobiles etc but there's no certainty at this point in time(No conclusive evidence in favour of them being cancer causing). Cancer rates are going to increase anyway, we're all living longer lives so more likely to get it at some point in our much longer lifetime. However treatments will also improve over the next 50 years. The benefits of technology will inevitably outweigh any pitfalls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Yeah, because there was no electromagnetic radiation before humans invented it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Are we all going to get brain tumours?
    Of course not - the next end of the world date will finish us off first! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Biggins wrote: »
    Of course not - the next end of the world date will finish us off first! ;)

    Or that metorite that's gonna hit us! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    We all have brain tumors, it is just a case if they believe them or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Beam me up, scotty! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Don't worry OP, the rise of antibacterial resistance will mean you will more than likely die from some type of bacterial infection long before the tumours get you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Beam me up, scotty! :pac:


    would that be to induce them, or are you just missing scotty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I heard it gives you AIDS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    I heard it gives you AIDS.

    Me to, I got a prosthetic leg out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭Sar_Bear


    What a cheerful thread.

    Excuse me while I go kill myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Sar_Bear wrote: »
    What a cheerful thread.

    Excuse me while I go kill myself.

    You have some nerve to ask to be excused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    OP why are you under the impression that these wireless devices have a medical effect on our brains?

    I'm not saying they don't but I've never heard of any research that shows they do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    There was probably more to worry about I'm the 50s and part of the 60s when atmospheric nuclear weapons tests were very popular!

    There's a huge difference between ionising (eg from nuclear sources or xrays etc) and non ionising eg radio waves, microwaves, light rats, infrared etc

    Ionising radiation will knock lumps our of your DNA. Non ionising radiation eg coming from your lovely open fire will just warm you up nicely!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    OP why are you under the impression that these wireless devices have a medical effect on our brains?

    I'm not saying they don't but I've never heard of any research that shows they do.

    My wireless phone has an effect on me.
    If the wife rings me and I don't answer it when out - I get concussion from a frying pan when I get home! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Super solar flares will fook you shiit up, but we never see them feel them, but it is possible we could die from them,

    this is the reason I make my misses walk in front of me everywhere we go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    When Im driving I usually have my phone securely nestled between my legs. Im not sure why but its been that way for the last 11 years.

    I better get my balls checked for ball tumours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    When Im driving I usually have my phone securely nestled between my legs. Im not sure why but its been that way for the last 11 years.

    I better get my balls checked for ball tumours.
    And your phone checked for STDs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Where To wrote: »
    And your phone checked for STDs

    Too late for that Im afraid.....theres an extra button on it now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    20 years ago the only thing that sent a signal in the house might have been the remote control.

    Now we have beams going everywhere.

    Wireless router, mobile phone, wireless mouse, wireless keyboard, wireless headphones, wireless PS3 and I can pick up a strong saorview signal from a little aerial placed under the table my tv is on, wireless speakers ect. ect.

    Beams all over the place. :eek:

    No conspiracy stuff just do we simply not know the long term effect this might be having on us.

    In 50 years time will our grandchildren look back the same way we now look back on smokers 50 years ago

    and we all know smokers are jokers.

    Mobile phones can cause brain tumours, court rules.
    What happens if they are slowing the growth of tumours down or killing them and saving the future population?

    It could also be transmitting Ebola around the world, but who am I to say. Not a doctor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    20 years ago the only thing that sent a signal in the house might have been the remote control.

    Now we have beams going everywhere.

    Wireless router, mobile phone, wireless mouse, wireless keyboard, wireless headphones, wireless PS3 and I can pick up a strong saorview signal from a little aerial placed under the table my tv is on, wireless speakers ect. ect.

    Beams all over the place. :eek:

    No conspiracy stuff just do we simply not know the long term effect this might be having on us.

    In 50 years time will our grandchildren look back the same way we now look back on smokers 50 years ago

    and we all know smokers are jokers.

    Mobile phones can cause brain tumours, court rules.

    Well with the tumors "they say" can take many years to show up in people/especially children from long term exposure to microwave frequencies "they say" but ...after looking at a few video's about this with microwave frequencies transmitted via mobile phone masts and having a phone right on your ear most of the day then i think you might have a problem years down the line but there again more scientific tests need to be done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Rabies wrote: »
    What happens if they are slowing the growth of tumours down or killing them and saving the future population?

    It could also be transmitting Ebola around the world, but who am I to say. Not a doctor.

    Do you work for the CDC by any chance ??? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Wireless router, mobile phone, wireless mouse, wireless keyboard, wireless headphones, wireless PS3 and I can pick up a strong saorview signal from a little aerial placed under the table my tv is on, wireless speakers

    If you are seriously seriously worried about those devices in your home, just remember there are non wireless options available ;)

    Muppet Man


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    What if we're all born with a brain tumour that takes 80-90 years to kill us.

    *Keanu*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Sinfonia wrote: »
    What if we're all born with a brain tumour that takes 80-90 years to kill us.

    *Keanu*

    so the tumors are protecting us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    An Italian court also blamed scientists for an earthquake and put them in prison.

    Not exactly a bastion of wisdom and reason are the Italian courts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    seamus wrote: »
    An Italian court also blamed scientists for an earthquake and put them in prison.

    Not exactly a bastion of wisdom and reason are the Italian courts

    Courting in Italy is not safe theses days (was it ever, everness)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    To be honest, it kind of worries me too. We have no idea what sort of effect some modern inventions will have on us in the long run... That's always been the case, but there are so many new inventions/modifications/technological advances these days, and they're all so widespread.

    Maybe they won't, maybe they will. We can't say either for sure, because there are no precedents to test em against...

    *puts on tinfoil hat, then worries about the effects said hat could have* :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    To be honest, it kind of worries me too. We have no idea what sort of effect some modern inventions will have on us in the long run... That's always been the case, but there are so many new inventions/modifications/technological advances these days, and they're all so widespread.

    Maybe they won't, maybe they will. We can't say either for sure, because there are no precedents to test em against...

    *puts on tinfoil hat, then worries about the effects said hat could have* :pac:

    I'd worry less about technology and more about what's in food and drinks that are being sold.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    When Im driving I usually have my phone securely nestled between my legs. Im not sure why but its been that way for the last 11 years.

    I better get my balls checked for ball tumours.

    Are you even sure they are balls and not tumours?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    The Radiation is going to make us grow 20 dicks from our foreheads as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Revelation ! - people worldwide with no tv's and mobile phones are dying every day, as we speak !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Thinking of it on a world wide scale you would come to the conclusion that mobile phone use has saved hundreds of thousands of peoples lives even though some might see it as a harmful radiation dose over years.

    The fact i can see is in a situation when you are driving and have an accident on a country road far away from a town/location with bushes and deep ditches on each side of the road and you end up slipping on ice or snow into one of these ditches and the car tumbles over and down into a deep brush as you are hidden and badly damaged physically of which you cannot move but you can move your hand just enough to take out the mobile phone to call an emergency station that will ultimately save your life.

    There's good and bad with technology and when it comes to mobile phones i can see a huge benefit to the safety for all. Microwave frequencies are dangerous but this would be not so if you only used a mobile for short periods or used a hands free kit.
    Radiofrequency energy is a form of electromagnetic radiation. Electromagnetic radiation can be categorized into two types: ionizing (e.g., x-rays, radon, and cosmic rays) and non-ionizing (e.g., radiofrequency and extremely low-frequency or power frequency).
    Exposure to ionizing radiation, such as from radiation therapy, is known to increase the risk of cancer. However, although many studies have examined the potential health effects of non-ionizing radiation from radar, microwave ovens, and other sources, there is currently no consistent evidence that non-ionizing radiation increases cancer risk (1).
    The only known biological effect of radiofrequency energy is heating. The ability of microwave ovens to heat food is one example of this effect of radiofrequency energy. Radiofrequency exposure from cell phone use does cause heating; however, it is not sufficient to measurably increase body temperature.
    A recent study showed that when people used a cell phone for 50 minutes, brain tissues on the same side of the head as the phone’s antenna metabolized more glucose than did tissues on the opposite side of the brain (2). The researchers noted that the results are preliminary, and possible health outcomes from this increase in glucose metabolism are still unknown.


    Source: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones

    It works both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    zenno wrote: »
    Thinking of it on a world wide scale you would come to the conclusion that mobile phone use has saved hundreds of thousands of peoples lives even though some might see it as a harmful radiation dose over years.

    The fact i can see is in a situation when you are driving and have an accident on a country road far away from a town/location with bushes and deep ditches on each side of the road and you end up slipping on ice or snow into one of these ditches and the car tumbles over and down into a deep brush as you are hidden and badly damaged physically of which you cannot move but you can move your hand just enough to take out the mobile phone to call an emergency station that will ultimately save your life.

    There's good and bad with technology and when it comes to mobile phones i can see a huge benefit to the safety for all. Microwave frequencies are dangerous but this would be not so if you only used a mobile for short periods or used a hands free kit.




    Source: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones

    It works both ways.

    I see a movie coming out of this, can I play the farmer that stumbles upon the wreck (I will have a walking stick and a few pints in me of course), and I relieve the vehicle of its tyres


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Achtung Maybe


    Chaps,

    I should begin by saying, I have an inoperable brain tumour and IMHO , it is just the fickle finger of fate rather than any other reason. I reiterate it is just my opinion rather than concrete evidence. Though the following of Liverpool over last 20 years could equally be to blame :)


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