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car waranty??

  • 28-12-2012 6:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭


    a friend bought a 02 vw polo 6 weeks ago(1.2 lt),it has given trouble every week since........epc light coming on twice,,,,,,,,engine management light coming on,both were fixed,now oil is leaking somewhere underneath and garage is slow to fix it,on receipt it says car sold as seen,my friend is young and didn't know what that meant,has she any leg to stand on!! any help would be appreciated.thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Sold as seen means absolutely nothing when a dealer sells acar to a member of the general public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭clarenman


    djimi wrote: »
    Sold as seen means absolutely nothing when a dealer sells acar to a member of the general public.

    thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,127 ✭✭✭kirving


    Should probably walk away from any dealer who wites that on a receipt. The only reason a dealer would say that is because they're expecting problems with the car, and want to throw the buyer of returning when the inevitable happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    djimi wrote: »
    Sold as seen means absolutely nothing when a dealer sells acar to a member of the general public.

    True.
    Was the receipt on headed paper or was it a "private sale"?
    If its on headed paper they have practically invalidated their own sold as seen statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭clarenman


    receipt was on private paper with name of garage written on it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭TGi666


    garage stamp too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    OP, this is a grey area imo, while you are protected by your rights under the Sale of Goods Act regarding the car should be fit for purpose, it's difficult to know if there is any definitive law on the whether you are entitled to a minimum warranty period or not given that you accepted the terms that the car was sold as seen when buying the car given that it is a 10 years old car.

    I'm no expert on this so imo the best thing I would do is contact the National Consumer Assoctiaion and get their expert advice on the matter:

    http://www.nca.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭clarenman


    TGi666 wrote: »
    garage stamp too?

    no garage stamp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    bazz26 wrote: »
    OP, this is a grey area imo, while you are protected by your rights under the Sale of Goods Act regarding the car should be fit for purpose, it's difficult to know if there is any definitive law on the whether you are entitled to a minimum warranty period or not given that you accepted the terms that the car was sold as seen when buying the car given that it is a 10 years old car.

    I agree, it is a complete grey area. You see people on here saying you are entitled to a 3 month warranty as if it is specifically enshrined somewhere in law - it isn't! The sale of goods act says the warranty should be "reasonable"

    Now what constitutes reasonable could vary hugely depending on any number of factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    The sale of Goods Act offers consumers protection to ensure that the goods are "fit for purpose" and be of "reasonable quality". There is no minimum warranty stated on any goods.

    You could argue that it was "not fit for purpose" to the garage under your consumer rights and that you want it repaired or refunded, if the dealer tells you to F-off, just tell him that you have to now go the legal route.

    If it was me, I would be straight down to the small claims court to lodge a case, €25, just think of Judge Judy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    In fairness a car that has been owned by someone for 6 weeks would almost definalely fall under the sale of goods act regardless; when you buy a car you expect it to be "fit for purpose" for longer than a few weeks. It sounds like this lemon gave trouble from day one.


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