......to continue to Luxobarge...or time to move on.....?

galwaytt

So, The Brother Luxobarges. Has done so for years. Currently he's in a mint V6 3.0t flappy paddle gearbox Saab 9-5. Car has never given any trouble and is kept like a new pin (the advantages of no kids, see.... ). His idea of 'trouble' with it lately is the blue on the badges fading....... :rolleyes: ....


Now though, he needs to do more mileage for work......so what to get ?

Nearly every biggish diesel seems to have some drawback.......so which one doesn't ?

Budget of say..... €5k......must be auto, leather, 2l and over, pref under 2.5l Reliability imperative, pref Indy-maintainable....

He's thinking BMW ....I'm.....struggling to come up with an alternative.

CianRyan

He'd get a decent A8 for that money, I think...

Top Dog

Only 2l, dunno about reliability or indy-servicable ... tax, test & cow though



http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4304962

R.O.R

CianRyan wrote: »

He'd get a decent A8 for that money, I think...

Not with an engine smaller than 2.5 Litres....


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4059339 depends if he can jump from one side of the Swedish fence to the other though.

Also this one in Galway http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4155602, but speeling mistakes and a pic of a 4x4 in the add are enough to put me off.

Or the same thing in a much more usable package - http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4231938

CianRyan

Under 2.5 isn't an absolute.

Jimdagym

I'd love your bro's 9-5

dar83

Volvo are the BMW alternative that first popped into my head. R.O.R beat me to it though.

TGi666

I think there is a 2.5 tdi Passat on donedeal at the mo might be worth a look, and if memory serves me right it had all above
or a 2.5 tdi audi a4 Quattro maby?

CianRyan

Are a Passat or an A4 really luxobarges though?

galwaytt

CianRyan wrote: »

Are a Passat or an A4 really luxobarges though?

No !!

+1 on the Volvos. ....dunno how I missed them. There's a few nice ones on DD alright...

bazz26

Rover 75 perhaps:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4099977


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Rover/75/2.0-CDTI/713258394466440/

galwaytt

Jimdagym wrote: »

I'd love your bro's 9-5

...don't worry, that might yet !

dgt

Something floppy and French?

Muckie

Japanese maybe. Lexus GS 300 or earlier models are quite good.

That or Nissan Maxima.

Or go nuts, Subaru Impreza, Nissan Skyline can be family cars too :pac:

Cungi

Top Dog wrote: »

Only 2l, dunno about reliability or indy-servicable ... tax, test & cow though

Should be reliable and indy serviceable seeing as its based on the Mondeo platform.

Comes in a 2.1 and 2.5 petrol too afaik

Larbre34

R.O.R wrote: »

Not with an engine smaller than 2.5 Litres....


http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4059339 depends if he can jump from one side of the Swedish fence to the other though.

66 mpg? my big fat santa ar5e.

triple-M

+1 for the jag

Top Dog

Muckie wrote: »

Japanese maybe. Lexus GS 300 or earlier models are quite good.

That or Nissan Maxima.

Or go nuts, Subaru Impreza, Nissan Skyline can be family cars too :pac:

Just curious - but did you actually read the original post?

Jimdagym

If he was considering a jag, surely it would be an S type, not an x type.

Barry Barry

Mercedes E270,
2.7 diesel,
2004,
140,000 miles,
€5,200



http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4255385

Volvo S60,
2.4 diesel,
2004,
115,000 miles,
€5,100



http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4340143

CianRyan

Top Dog wrote: »

Just curious - but did you actually read the original post?

This.
I'm always the first to suggest something Jap but nothing fits the bill at that price.
A GS460h would be deadly but not a hope at 5 grand.

Idbatterim

would a 5 series do?

Cungi

Idbatterim wrote: »

would a 5 series do?

Was just about to suggest that. Plenty of 530's for sale at the mo.
Or maybe a slightly older 7 series?

Barry Barry

An E39 5 series M-Sport with a bit of change left over maybe?

beaner88

X types and S60s are not luxobarges.

Matt Simis

Barry Barry wrote: »

An E39 5 series M-Sport with a bit of change left over maybe?

Agree.
Not to sound like a rabid fanboy but "alternative to BMW" at this price point is a downgrade, for a 5k budget used diesel thats not small or tax concerned, nothing is going to touch a minty spec'ed out last edition e39 530d MSport.


http://www.speedhunters.com/search-results/?q=e39+


PS: Neither a Saab 9-5 or 5 series BMW (or like anything in this thread) are "luxobarges" GalwayTT!?

CianRyan

Matt Simis wrote: »

Agree.
Not to sound like a rabid fanboy but "alternative to BMW" at this price point is a downgrade, for a 5k budget used diesel thats not small or tax concerned, nothing is going to touch a minty spec'ed out last edition e39 530d MSport.


http://www.speedhunters.com/search-results/?q=e39+


PS: Neither a Saab 9-5 or 5 series BMW (or like anything in this thread) are "luxobarges" GalwayTT!?

An A8's not a luxobarge?

Barry Barry

CianRyan wrote: »

An A8's not a luxobarge?

It is a luxo-barge but I don't think you'll get a diesel one in budget and the smallest diesel engine is the 3.0tdi apart from the 2.5 tdi but that only came in LHD

CianRyan

Barry Barry wrote: »

It is a luxo-barge but I don't think you'll get a diesel one in budget and the smallest diesel engine is the 3.0tdi apart from the 2.5 tdi but that only came in LHD

2.5L preferably but not strictly, same deal with a 530D M.
You'd get one too, just need a bit of time and a bit of back bone to haggle.

Blue850

Stick with a Saab?

Dr.Rieux

bazz26 wrote: »

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Rover/75/2.0-CDTI/713258394466440/

When I was looking at cars back in March AS Cars had this 75 so a good bit off asking should be achievable

Matt Simis

CianRyan wrote: »

An A8's not a luxobarge?

It is but a TDI version (which for RHD markets is 2003+) is not realistically going to be bought for 5k now is it!? And besides, my point was the entire surmise of "my brother drives luxobarges he drives a 9-5" was flawed.

beaner88

I'd give the 9-5 mentioned a by. Obviously the definition is completely made up by I would say it has to be 9-5, E-class, 5 series size minimum but preferably the a8- 7 series size. The 9-5 gets in for having a big auto engine and luxury spec.

Saab Ed

Rock and Roll baby

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/4147043

Idbatterim

A luxobarge would be a 7 series, s class or A8. But given that a 730d will be well out of budget of 5k, how about something like the below? bit of a compromise on the barge bit, but running costs and purchase price would be far lower...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4294996

Matt Simis

Idbatterim wrote: »

A luxobarge would be a 7 series, s class or A8. But given that a 730d will be well out of budget of 5k, how about something like the below? bit of a compromise on the barge bit, but running costs and purchase price would be far lower...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4294996

Wow thats cheap. Looks like leather interior too, which seller didnt mention.

Idbatterim

the alloys, reg and colour dont do it any favours, probably why its so cheap, assuming there is nothing wrong with it...

bobin fudge

I doubt the reg has anything to do with pricing unless you have a reason I can't think of?

Idbatterim

I doubt the reg has anything to do with pricing unless you have a reason I can't think of?

reg snobbery is all...

bobin fudge

perhaps, Im not mad on the alloys either and as for the colour -wouldnt be my first preference but the more I look at it I quite like it

beaner88

My boss has nearly the same car. 2004 530d with the horrible 16 inch alloys. It would be worth spending a few quid on some nicer standard 18s.

Idbatterim

perhaps, Im not mad on the alloys either and as for the colour -wouldnt be my first preference but the more I look at it I quite like it

yeah the interior where you will be spending all the time is lovely, throw on a used pair of mv2's and it would be a big improvement...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-BMW-M-SPORT-18-ALLOY-WHEELS-E60-5-SERIES-MV2-/321045155668?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4abfc84f54

I agree about the 18's, but I would probably put 17" on Irish roads...

this one isnt bad either...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4345046

dgt

It's a real pity it has to be diesel...

Petrol Option A


Petrol Option B


Sadly, this is too expensive! But a quick machine...



I must test drive that Merc for the laugh if I get away with it!

Supergurrier

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3805367

Might get this abit cheaper even though its abit small for a luxobarge

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4264063

Blue850

W126 diesel

_Kaiser_

How does a Volvo pass as a "luxobarge"? I mean, to me that term suggests big Mercs, A8's, 7 series.. not a posh Mondeo!

That 04 E270 someone posted previously would do me nicely out of what's been posted so far.. except for the KE reg. If I was buying something like that I'd want the D reg myself

Supergurrier

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

How does a Volvo pass as a "luxobarge"? I mean, to me that term suggests big Mercs, A8's, 7 series.. not a posh Mondeo!

That 04 E270 someone posted previously would do me nicely out of what's been posted so far.. except for the KE reg. If I was buying something like that I'd want the D reg myself

S60 is hardly a posh mondeo, completely different place to be

_Kaiser_

Supergurrier wrote: »

S60 is hardly a posh mondeo, completely different place to be

In the end it's still a Volvo though - not one of the marques I'd consider as being a Luxobarge

Matt Simis

Supergurrier wrote: »

S60 is hardly a posh mondeo, completely different place to be

Its still not a luxo-barge though is it?
The S80 with AWD and 4.4 V8, has a case. Not the S60 (anymore than the Saab or 3/5 series).
Its a D-Segment, compact exec car. Like a Passat, A4 or 3 series. Luxo-barge!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-segment

Are we really trying to make the case that any D-Segment car could be a luxo-barge.. talking about Avensis, Mondeo and Insignia here?

bazz26

The Saab 9-5 that the OP's brother is coming from is hardly a luxobarge either is it? It's a glorified MkI Opel Vectra if we want to start picking holes.

bobin fudge

Obvisouly it is subjective but I just assume it to be the top end model of any brand being the biggest

brand doesnt matter either as an opel omega would pass in my eyes as a luxobarge