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Kicked out of a Nightclub because I'm "Gay"

  • 23-12-2012 1:46am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭


    Okay, so I only turned 18 a few weeks ago and this is the first time I've been in a Nightclub so I apologize if this is a regular occurrence and I'm bitching for no apparent reason..
    I've no problem with being considered gay, thats not what I'm angry about, I'm not gay but I was grabbed by a bouncer, after I got in legally I may add, because I have long hair and he thought I was gay.
    Its just the smug look on his face as he grabbed me and kicked me out, calling me gay and laughing as I told him it's wrong to do that that I'm angry about..
    I called the Gardai but they said it's not an emergency and I didnt have proof so theres nothing they can do about it, once again I can't be angry at that but it pissed me off all the same that he can just get away with it
    I suppose what really pisses me off is the fact that the bouncer will never know how much of a **** he really is, and has probably forgotten about this already..
    Am I wrong for being angry or should I just accept that bouncers are low life scum who get their kicks from picking on people half their age?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Make a complaint to the Private Security Authority and the Equality Authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭LiffeyValleyB


    TheStook wrote: »
    Okay, so I only turned 18 a few weeks ago and this is the first time I've been in a Nightclub so I apologize if this is a regular occurrence and I'm bitching for no apparent reason..
    I've no problem with being considered gay, thats not what I'm angry about, I'm not gay but I was grabbed by a bouncer, after I got in legally I may add, because I have long hair and he thought I was gay.
    Its just the smug look on his face as he grabbed me and kicked me out, calling me gay and laughing as I told him it's wrong to do that that I'm angry about..
    I called the Gardai but they said it's not an emergency and I didnt have proof so theres nothing they can do about it, once again I can't be angry at that but it pissed me off all the same that he can just get away with it
    I suppose what really pisses me off is the fact that the bouncer will never know how much of a **** he really is, and has probably forgotten about this already..
    Am I wrong for being angry or should I just accept that bouncers are low life scum who get their kicks from picking on people half their age?
    You know those people who are in their mid-late twenties who say they're sick of nightclubs and don't go any more? This is one of many reasons for that decision that you will learn....in time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭Sar_Bear


    Bouncers are arseholes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭osheen


    MarkMc wrote: »
    Make a complaint to the Private Security Authority and the Equality Authority.

    The equality authority will probably push this alot more than the gardai or the PSA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    MarkMc wrote: »
    Make a complaint to the Private Security Authority and the Equality Authority.

    Thanks, I will.
    Also, I may add, that he refused to give me his name and disappeared from the door after he seen me call the Gardai. I've never hated a human being so much in my life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    osheen wrote: »

    The equality authority will probably push this alot more than the gardai or the PSA

    More than likely, but the PSA have the power to revoke his licence for something like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    How drunk were you?
    Sure he didn't say, "G'way!"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    Equality Authority me hole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    You know those people who are in their mid-late twenties who say they're sick of nightclubs and don't go any more? This is one of many reasons for that decision that you will learn....in time!

    The nightclub is called "Time" funnily enough.

    And yeah, I've probably learned a valuable lesson early enough, which is one positive I can take I suppose. Bouncers are *****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Sar_Bear wrote: »
    Bouncers are arseholes.

    Ah now, thats a bit harsh. Some are sound


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭lucky frank lives


    TheStook wrote: »
    Okay, so I only turned 18 a few weeks ago and this is the first time I've been in a Nightclub so I apologize if this is a regular occurrence and I'm bitching for no apparent reason..
    I've no problem with being considered gay, thats not what I'm angry about, I'm not gay but I was grabbed by a bouncer, after I got in legally I may add, because I have long hair and he thought I was gay.
    Its just the smug look on his face as he grabbed me and kicked me out, calling me gay and laughing as I told him it's wrong to do that that I'm angry about..
    I called the Gardai but they said it's not an emergency and I didnt have proof so theres nothing they can do about it, once again I can't be angry at that but it pissed me off all the same that he can just get away with it
    I suppose what really pisses me off is the fact that the bouncer will never know how much of a **** he really is, and has probably forgotten about this already..
    Am I wrong for being angry or should I just accept that bouncers are low life scum who get their kicks from picking on people half their age?
    Is this a coming out thread, im completly fine with ghays btw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    TheStook wrote: »

    The nightclub is called * funnily enough.

    And yeah, I've probably learned a valuable lesson early enough, which is one positive I can take I suppose. Bouncers are *****.

    Might be for the best to not name them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    CageWager wrote: »
    Equality Authority me hole

    From the sounds of it, the OP would probably like to "Equality Authority" your hole ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Sar_Bear wrote: »
    Bouncers are arseholes.

    Yeah and all lads with long hair are gay...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    Nightclubs do get old and boring the older you get.

    I sometimes find myself in a night club and ask myself 'what am i supposed to be doing now'?

    I dance, chat and drink but there are times when i dont have a glass in my hands and i ask 'what am i supposed to do with my hands'? They just kind of dangle down by my side and i look around and i see everyone else is actually using their hands to do stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Why did you waste the police's time by calling them? Did you actually ring 999 for something like that?

    As for your incident, are you actually sure it was because you were gay. Did he outright tell you that, that was the reason he kicked you out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Thankfully not all bouncers are like this asshole you encountered. He'd no reason to discriminate against you, even if you were Gay what's the problem? :confused:

    If I were you I'd follow this up and complain to the establishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Stook,
    You are only 18 :) and despite what other users will pull out of their arse to say how "wrong I am" :rolleyes:

    - Reality is your average bouncer is a fucking asshole who also gets off with what little 'power' they get from the job.
    - And that Gardai don't give a fuck about alot of 'minor' shit. You've probably heard stories about how a person was robbed and the Gardai took their time to come out? seemingly not caring? well ... Now you can relate to those stories :) Even on a different or lesser level.

    But as I say ... expect for my post to be "disputed" (people are pro gardai on these forums because the only interaction they've had with them is watching them on the rte1 news ;) )

    So sadly you aint going to get any support on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    CianRyan wrote: »
    How drunk were you?
    Sure he didn't say, "G'way!"?

    I'm not gonna lie, I am drunk. But I know what I heard.

    I know absolutely nothing is gonna come out of this, but just thought I'd share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    The bouncer didn't look like this did he?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I really don't feel like we're getting the full story here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Stook,
    You are only 18 :) and despite what other users will pull out of their arse to say how "wrong I am" :rolleyes:

    - Reality is your average bouncer is a fucking asshole who also gets off with what little 'power' they get from the job.
    - And that Gardai don't give a fuck about alot of 'minor' shit. You've probably heard stories about how a person was robbed and the Gardai took their time to come out? seemingly not caring? well ... Now you can relate to those stories :) Even on a different or lesser level.

    But as I say ... expect for my post to be "disputed" (people are pro gardai on these forums because the only interaction they've had with them is watching them on the rte1 news ;) )

    Nice attempt to derail into Garda bashing. Its a civil issue, thats why the Guards aren't interested. And ok, I may be pro Gardai, but no, my only interaction is not by the rte news, cheers though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    I'd start by ringing up the venue itself. A lot of how you get dealt with depends on how you complain, mind. Calmly tell them the story, honestly, and see what they have to say about the incident. I recently had an incident with a bouncer myself (he was 100% in the wrong; I've worked as one so know the law inside-out) and the venue were very understanding when I complained, I have to say. Haven't seen yer man working there since either.

    If you're not happy, then take it further if you wish. Clubs will **** themselves if there's any kind of 'real world' consequences that befall them, and if you were the recipient of some homophobic abuse (it's still homophobic whether you're gay or not) by a staff member on shift, then that's serious.

    But, realistically, chances are the anger will go away with the more effort required on your part and you'll chalk it down to a bad experience. You do have options if you wish, though. Security guards can't get away with a thing these days, for better or worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    CianRyan wrote: »
    I really don't feel like we're getting the full story here.

    Neither do I.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭lucky frank lives


    TheStook wrote: »
    I'm not gonna lie, I am drunk. But I know what I heard.

    I know absolutely nothing is gonna come out of this, but just thought I'd share.
    4get about him he's only a loser, give the c/unt a smack of your head the next time and run like hell, thats what i would have done, **** advice maybe, but creeps like him..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    The bouncer didn't look like this did he?

    Well played Sir.

    And no, I'm not derailing the Gardai. There's literally nothing they can do about it regardless of how little they tried.

    I should probably have slept on this..oh well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    TheStook wrote: »

    Well played Sir.

    And no, I'm not derailing the Gardai. There's literally nothing they can do about it regardless of how little they tried.

    I should probably have slept on this..oh well.

    My post wasn't aimed at you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Stook,
    You are only 18 :) and despite what other users will pull out of their arse to say how "wrong I am" :rolleyes:

    - Reality is your average bouncer is a fucking asshole who also gets off with what little 'power' they get from the job.
    - And that Gardai don't give a fuck about alot of 'minor' shit. You've probably heard stories about how a person was robbed and the Gardai took their time to come out? seemingly not caring? well ... Now you can relate to those stories :) Even on a different or lesser level.

    But as I say ... expect for my post to be "disputed" (people are pro gardai on these forums because the only interaction they've had with them is watching them on the rte1 news ;) )

    So sadly you aint going to get any support on here.

    Lad, let's be honest here, the OP isn't telling the whole story.

    There is a big chance here that the OP did something else to get kicked out, I mean, he's hardly shown his maturity or capability to handle the drunken state when he says he rang bloody Emercency Services because he got kicked out of a nightclub :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    TheStook wrote: »
    The nightclub is called "Time" funnily enough.

    And yeah, I've probably learned a valuable lesson early enough, which is one positive I can take I suppose. Bouncers are *****.

    Oh been there done that. Was a regular there many moons ago. Went in one night on a staff night out, had just got to the cloackroom and my mate rang to say he wasn't getting in because he was too drunk. So I went back out, gave him money for a taxi, went to go back in the door, and got stopped for having to much booze. The guy asked where I was coming from, and I said I've just been in and nipped outside for a minute. He said I obviously had too much 'on board' and wasn't getting in that night. In general, bouncers are a**eholes. You get some decent guys, fair enough, but most are guys who've been bullied at school, spent 3 years in the gym and now fancy themselves as hardmen.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    TheStook wrote: »
    Well played Sir.

    And no, I'm not derailing the Gardai. There's literally nothing they can do about it regardless of how little they tried.

    I should probably have slept on this..oh well.

    But did you really ring 999, the emergency services?

    Huh?

    You do know what 999 is for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    MarkMc wrote: »
    Nice attempt to derail into Garda bashing. Its a civil issue, thats why the Guards aren't interested. And ok, I may be pro Gardai, but no, my only interaction is not by the rte news, cheers though.


    For the record I am not anti-gardai.
    See there's just one problem on here. People are up the gardai's holes (to put it bluntly)

    People refuse to believe that underneath that uniform is a person. No different than you or me. A person who isnt perfect. I'm not perfect are you?
    That its just a job. That bad personal traits can come out. Not to mention people abuse power. But hey it aint just the guards. Some a-hole who gets promoted to manager in spar can abuse the same :)

    But... what I do have an issue with. Is to white wash over the acceptance of this. That this doesnt happen with members of the gardai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Lad, let's be honest here, the OP isn't telling the whole story.

    There is a big chance here that the OP did something else to get kicked out, I mean, he's hardly shown his maturity or capability to handle the drunken state when he says he rang bloody Emercency Services because he got kicked out of a nightclub :rolleyes:

    I didnt ring the Gardai purely because I got kicked out though. If I got kicked out because of drunken antics then thats fair enough, but I'm a very stable drunk, and I dont expect any of ye to believe that.
    I am however hopeful that ye will believe what the bouncer said to me which is effectively, a hate crime. I have Gay friends, which is perhaps the reason why I took this personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭lucky frank lives


    humberklog wrote: »
    But did you really ring 999, the emergency services?

    Huh?

    You do know what 999 is for?
    emergency ice-cream van ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Lawlesz wrote: »
    You get some decent guys, fair enough, but most are guys who've been bullied at school, spent 3 years in the gym and now fancy themselves as hardmen.

    I've heard all kinds of poor psychological profiles of bouncers here and elsewhere over the years, but this is a new one. They're all bullying victims gone on a rampage now, are they?! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭lucky frank lives


    TheStook wrote: »
    I didnt ring the Gardai purely because I got kicked out though. If I got kicked out because of drunken antics then thats fair enough, but I'm a very stable drunk, and I dont expect any of ye to believe that.
    I am however hopeful that ye will believe what the bouncer said to me which is effectively, a hate crime. I have Gay friends, which is perhaps the reason why I took this personally.
    give it up, ive tried this sh/it off me chops on the whole shbang, get to noddy land pal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    4get about him he's only a loser, give the c/unt a smack of your head the next time and run like hell, thats what i would have done, **** advice maybe, but creeps like him..........

    Yes. It is **** advice.

    The vast majority of bouncers btw are very good at their job and, maybe surprisingly, take pride in that fact. There are of course cúnts out there but thats not abnormal in any line of work. Again, there is probably more to this story than meets the eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    280sw007883.gif


    Were you dancing like this OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    TheStook wrote: »
    I didnt ring the Gardai purely because I got kicked out though. If I got kicked out because of drunken antics then thats fair enough, but I'm a very stable drunk, and I dont expect any of ye to believe that.
    I am however hopeful that ye will believe what the bouncer said to me which is effectively, a hate crime. I have Gay friends, which is perhaps the reason why I took this personally.

    It doesn't change the fact that you rang them because you got kicked out of a nightclub for being "gay".

    Do you REALLY think that anyone in this thread or in the world is going to believe that a bouncer was walking through the nightclub, looked at you and thought "He's gay, better f*ck him out"?

    Seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Introvert with high IQ = ''Gay''
    Footballer who reads books = ''Gay''
    Over 35 and not married = ''Gay''
    Young lad who hasn't found a girlfriend = ''Gay''
    Well dressed,fashion conscious hipster bloke = ''Gay''
    Bloke who doesn't cheat on his wife = ''Gay''

    the list goes on....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    TheStook wrote: »

    I didnt ring the Gardai purely because I got kicked out though. If I got kicked out because of drunken antics then thats fair enough, but I'm a very stable drunk, and I dont expect any of ye to believe that.
    I am however hopeful that ye will believe what the bouncer said to me which is effectively, a hate crime. I have Gay friends, which is perhaps the reason why I took this personally.

    You and everyone else, mate.

    What were the exact actions and words spoken leading up to, during and directly after the event?
    I'd really love to know more as you've left it all quite vague up to now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    CianRyan wrote: »
    What were the exact actions and words spoken leading up to, during and directly after the event?
    I'd really love to know more as you've left it all quite vague up to now.

    If he was giving a lad a blowjob in the corner then he really doesn't have a leg to stand on tbh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    TheStook wrote: »
    Thanks, I will.
    Also, I may add, that he refused to give me his name and disappeared from the door after he seen me call the Gardai. I've never hated a human being so much in my life.

    Did it make you feel like scratching his eyes out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


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    Were you dancing like this OP?

    Nope haha, I generally stay clear of the dancefloor.

    And No, I didnt do anything to justifiably get kicked out. Once again I don't expect ye to believe me, and most of ye won't but that's life.
    But some of the comments on here have already made me feel better, thanks for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,320 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    leggo wrote: »
    If he was giving a lad a blowjob in the corner then he really doesn't have a leg to stand on tbh...

    Or knee to kneel on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    TheStook wrote: »

    I didnt ring the Gardai purely because I got kicked out though. If I got kicked out because of drunken antics then thats fair enough, but I'm a very stable drunk, and I dont expect any of ye to believe that.
    I am however hopeful that ye will believe what the bouncer said to me which is effectively, a hate crime. I have Gay friends, which is perhaps the reason why I took this personally.

    But you rang 999? Seriously? What a stupid immature thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    leggo wrote: »

    If he was giving a lad a blowjob in the corner then he really doesn't have a leg to stand on tbh...

    He may have three. :p


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There isn't something right with this thread - seems there's a large portion that we're missing.

    Sure, some bouncers are arseholes. Some are lovely too. But I would severely doubt that one would kick anyone out for being or, in this case, looking gay. Surely they would have the common sense that anything like this would land a whole heap of trouble at their doorstep?

    OP, if this is genuinely what happened, then follow through the correct channels. But make sure that you're in the right on this, because you could be potentially getting someone fired for nothing.

    And only ever call 999 during an actual emergency. Getting kicked out of a nightclub is not one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭TheStook


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    It doesn't change the fact that you rang them because you got kicked out of a nightclub for being "gay".

    Do you REALLY think that anyone in this thread or in the world is going to believe that a bouncer was walking through the nightclub, looked at you and thought "He's gay, better f*ck him out"?

    Seriously?

    No, I don't expect ye to believe me, as I said before..
    I was in the smoking area with a few mates, I was grabbed by the bouncer and was taken out. After I enquired as to why I was thrown out he made some derogotary comments about me being gay and having long hair.
    Granted, ringing the Gardai was a bit too far but I genuinely felt very hurt at the time and knew it was illegal so I did it, unfortunately I didnt have the relevant authorities number on hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I hope the 999 operator ate you for ringing them.

    Jesus Op, seriously? 999?


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