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I Had A Strange Realization About Numbers Today....

  • 22-12-2012 9:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭


    Alright, I hope this makes sense....

    0-9 are individual digits - (zero, one, two....nine)
    Then we've got 10, 20, 30, 40... 90 (ten, twenty, thirty.... ninety)

    If we want to say '33' we combine 'thirty' and 'three' to get 'thirty-three'

    fifty-three
    forty-three
    thirty-three
    twenty-three
    TEN-three!

    Wait - what? There is no ten-three!

    I feel like someone really dropped the ball on number 11-19. I think it'd make a lot more sense to change 'ten' to 'tenty' and make it conform with the others.

    11-tentyone
    12-tentytwo
    etc....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Hahahahaha. I'm not gonna lie, OP. Usually when I read your posts I think you're a bit dim but you really make a valid point here. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,578 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    We have a ten-three in progress...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Add your age to the date you were born.
    Multiply by three.
    Divide by two.
    Now subtract today's date.
    Add the year you were born.
    Look in the mirror.
    You are sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I Had A Strange Realization About Numbers Today....


    Then stop thinking like an American...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    The -teen's make sense,but if you really want to blow your mind , contemplate where did eleven and twelve come from...


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I thought people realised this at 5 :eek:

    So what are we calling our awkward decade? The teenies bar 11 and 12?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    I think the OP has had tenty pints too many


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I thought people realised this at 5 :eek:

    So what are we calling our awkward decade? The teenies bar 11 and 12?

    tenty would follow the convention held by 20-90. I think that would be the most logical choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    The -teen's make sense,but if you really want to blow your mind , contemplate where did eleven and twelve come from...

    I'm not sure I agree; yes 13-19 follow the same patter of 'x-teen' but no other numbers (> 0 and < 100) match it. If we said '28' and eight-twenty' I'd agree.

    But as it is, I think the 'teens' are all an abomination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Then stop thinking like an American...

    Hahaha - American and 'thinking' don't really belong in the same sentence :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ahtfulal84


    Tentyone bottles of beer on the wall, tentyone bottles of beer.
    Take one down and pass it around, tenty bottles of beer on the wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Hahahahaha. I'm not gonna lie, OP. Usually when I read your posts I think you're a bit dim but you really make a valid point here. :D

    I usually am a bit dim. No idea why you got an infraction for this. I think it's a very fair opinion to hold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    would tenty-one not be 101?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    would tenty-one not be 101?

    He knows too much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    From a logical point of view op is spot on. In german they do it...cept for 11 and 12 too...what is it with 11 and 12?? Scumbag numbers

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_spell_the_numbers_from_1_to_20_in_German


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    UCDVet wrote: »
    tenty would follow the convention held by 20-90. I think that would be the most logical choice.

    It wouldn't. You would be inventing a new word Tenty. You don't have to invent any new words to count from 21 to 99.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭scrubber72


    Multiply any number by 9 say 21. Answer is 189. Add each number together. 1+8+9=18. Add 1+8. Answer is 9. This works on any number multiplied by 9. Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    It wouldn't. You would be inventing a new word Tenty. You don't have to invent any new words to count from 21 to 99.

    I'm arguing that 'ten' should not exist and it should be called 'tenty' (because 20,30,40, etc...) all end with 'ty'.

    Then we'd have the same 'patterns' from all whole numbers > 9 and < 100.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    UCDVet wrote: »
    tenty would follow the convention held by 20-90. I think that would be the most logical choice.
    onety or unty would make more sense for 10, then unty one, unty two... Etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I'm arguing that 'ten' should not exist and it should be called 'tenty' (because 20,30,40, etc...) all end with 'ty'.

    Then we'd have the same 'patterns' from all whole numbers > 9 and < 100.

    It sounds too much like twenty and would cause confusion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    So you never heard of elevendeen, twelvedeen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    onety or unty would make more sense for 10, then unty one, unty two... Etc.

    I'm pretty open to whatever we'd use for '10' so long as 11 is 'x'-one. Onetyone sounds good to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    It sounds too much like twenty and would cause confusion.

    People don't have too much trouble distinguishing between ten and twenty, IMHO. But, fair enough, we can call it anything; but whatever we call '10' followed by 'one' should be 11.

    At least, in my opinion.

    // My opinion doesn't matter for much, but still....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,862 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    UCDVet wrote: »
    People don't have too much trouble distinguishing between ten and twenty, IMHO. But, fair enough, we can call it anything; but whatever we call '10' followed by 'one' should be 11.

    At least, in my opinion.

    // My opinion doesn't matter for much, but still....

    Air traffic controllers have to say nine as niner to avoid being misheard as five. Tenty and twenty would be even worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Its six of one and half a dozen of the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    -teen is apparently from Old English denoting '10 more than'. -ty is a group of ten so tenty is 100. Einty-three for 13, that's just what we need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭Queen-Mise


    Hahahahaha. I'm not gonna lie, OP. Usually when I read your posts I think you're a bit dim but you really make a valid point here. :D
    UCDVet wrote: »
    I usually am a bit dim. No idea why you got an infraction for this. I think it's a very fair opinion to hold.

    Dim wouldn't be the right word - lateral thinking would be more apt.*

    The Abbot/Costello clip was brilliant. 13*7 is 28 - proven three different ways. This tenty and 28 business is a travesty.

    *note thread :D:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I thought people realised this at 5 :eek:

    So what are we calling our awkward decade? The teenies bar 11 and 12?

    It's simple, this decade is the tens, the previous decade was the zeros.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    scrubber72 wrote: »
    Multiply any number by 9 say 21. Answer is 189. Add each number together. 1+8+9=18. Add 1+8. Answer is 9. This works on any number multiplied by 9. Why?

    Because it's the square of three.

    If you add up the digits of any number, if the final number is divisible by three so is the original number.

    for example 121 is 1+2+1 = 4. 4 is not divisible by three so neither is 121.

    99 (easy one) is 9+9 = 18 18/3 = 6 So 99 is divisible by 3.

    There's rules for lots of different numbers
    http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/divisibility-rules-and-tests.php

    If you want to know why this is the case, get yourself a book on number theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Wait - what? There is no ten-three!

    I feel like someone really dropped the ball on number 11-19. I think it'd make a lot more sense to change 'ten' to 'tenty' and make it conform with the others.

    11-tentyone
    12-tentytwo
    etc....

    it'll put an end to teenage years (maybe a good thing)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    kowloon wrote: »
    We have a ten-three in progress...
    sounds more like a four twenty if you ask me
    http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/25108774.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    So you want us to call the year twenty tenty two? or two thousand and tenty two?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine



    It's simple, this decade is the tens, the previous decade was the zeros.
    The previous decade was called the noughties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Grayson wrote: »
    There's rules for lots of different numbers
    http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/divisibility-rules-and-tests.php

    If you want to know why this is the case, get yourself a book on number theory.
    what about 7?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    The previous decade was called the noughties

    Not by me it isn't. The zeros makes the most sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Not by me it isn't. The zeros makes the most sense.

    Everyone else called the noughties!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Think of the poor French ...their ninety nine is four twenty ten nine :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd



    Everyone else called the noughties!

    Not me it's stupid.

    1920-1929. The 20's
    1930-1939. The 30's
    1940-1949. The 40's
    1950-1959. The 50's
    1960-1969. The 60's
    1970-1979. The 70's
    1980-1989. The 80's
    1990-1999. The 90's

    Now I think the pattern there is obvious so it makes sense to call 2000-2009 the 00's and 2010-2019 the 10's.

    Why would you call the decade the naughties. Naughtie is not a number. Even worse is the teensies for this decade. First 11 and 12 aren't teens and secondly teensie isn't a number. My solution is the simplistic and most logically consistent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    Grayson wrote: »
    Because it's the square of three.

    If you add up the digits of any number, if the final number is divisible by three so is the original number.

    for example 121 is 1+2+1 = 4. 4 is not divisible by three so neither is 121.

    99 (easy one) is 9+9 = 18 18/3 = 6 So 99 is divisible by 3.

    There's rules for lots of different numbers
    http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/divisibility-rules-and-tests.php

    If you want to know why this is the case, get yourself a book on number theory.

    Couldn't agree more with the above, well I suppose I could if I understood it, but it's certainly impressive.
    So, 'what he said'!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine



    Not me it's stupid.

    1920-1929. The 20's
    1930-1939. The 30's
    1940-1949. The 40's
    1950-1959. The 50's
    1960-1969. The 60's
    1970-1979. The 70's
    1980-1989. The 80's
    1990-1999. The 90's

    Now I think the pattern there is obvious so it makes sense to call 2000-2009 the 00's and 2010-2019 the 10's.

    Why would you call the decade the naughties. Naughtie is not a number. Even worse is the teensies for this decade. First 11 and 12 aren't teens and secondly teensie isn't a number. My solution is the simplistic and most logically consistent.
    Nought as in zero
    01, 02, 03


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Everyone else called the noughties!
    Speak for yourself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    Nought as in zero
    01, 02, 03

    Equally it would make sense to call 2000-2009 the noughts as well as zeros. My personal preference is the zeros. The noughties is an awful name for the decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Following on from this logical proposal then the prefixes for twenty (twen) and thirty (thir) also need to be changed;

    20 = two-ty
    30 = three-ty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    what about 7?

    7 is the fecked up one.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisibility_rule#Divisibility_by_7

    When I did it in maths class, we worked out mathematically how to do each one. And technically you could do it for any number. But once you get into double digits it can be a bit of a bollox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I usually am a bit dim. No idea why you got an infraction for this. I think it's a very fair opinion to hold.

    IT'S PC GONE MAD!!!!!11!!!1!one


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Following on from this logical proposal then the prefixes for twenty (twen) and thirty (thir) also need to be changed;

    20 = two-ty
    30 = three-ty

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    No
    Yes!

    Furthermore numbers defining orders should also be standardised.

    1st = one-th (1th)
    2nd = two-th (2th)
    3rd = three-th (3th)

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Possibly the coolest of all numbers..so big that if you tried to visualise Grahams number your head would collapse into a black hole!!



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