Fringe s05e10 - Anomaly XB-6783746 [** Spoilers **]

Mr E

Another cracking episode. It's really going out with a bang instead of a whimper (no pun intended).

Nice (and unpredictable) twist at the end too. When Peter removed the observer tech a few episodes ago, I wondered what the point was (if nothing had changed). Now I see that we need to know the impact of observer tech on a human body. It looks like Donald did the same thing (but kept it).

Loved Nina's monologue too, such a great scene.

tvnutz

Great episode. So Donald is September. Guess that puts to rest the talk of Peter or the child observer being September.

So can we assume September removed his piece of tech? Now that he has hair and has emotions.

Mr E

Hard to know, but I think Donald is alive in the current timeline (with hair and all) and will feature in the next 3 episodes. Maybe part of the plan is for him to become an observer, go further than Peter did with the tech (and go back in time?) -- he obviously isn't from the same far future that the other observers are from.

The finale is definitely going to have a huge "ah ha!" moment that will tie it back to September's presence in earlier seasons.

Axwell

Have found this season to be disappointing at times so its good to see it really taking off, albeit in the last few episodes. To me it seems there is a pattern of parents losing children and the sacrifices they make to try save them. In the bit where Michael touches Walter we get flash backs showing the different connections and also different timelines seeing Peter, Etta and Donald.

I think Donald is Michael's father but in the different timeline, one where Michael is sick and is possibly going to die. We only see Donald for a quick moment and he looks somewhat sad but then happy to see whoever touches his shoulder (Its hard to make out but I thought it looked like he was standing in front of a coffin maybe when I looked back a few times). I think the hand that touches his shoulder is pretty likely to be Walter. If its not a coffin I think its possible he is sad because he knows Michael is sick but that Walter has come to help him but that this will mean losing his son - putting him in the pocket universe where time moved quickly outside.

September told Walter the boy is important, he must live - it seems referring to Michael and not Peter. We also see the clip of Michael from the original timeline and episode in the back of the car looking back at September/Donald at the side of the road as if he knows him or has some connection.

Ok heres where its all a bit unsure and we will find out im sure in the next 3 episodes but I need to write them down and see what people think. At the point early on in Fringe where September saves Walter and Peter he tells Walter some day he will want a favour in return from him. Is it possible that September is referring to him helping Donald to save Michael.

We know Donald is September but possibly from different timelines or outcomes, maybe they are the same person but Donald does not become September as such he is just his alternate. So September is trying to save his own son in an alternate timeline where he is with Donald similar to Walter crossing over to save the other Peter.

There are other possibilities like Michael being half human and half observer. If Donald is human and in one timeline somehow an observer perhaps Michael is half human half observer which makes him so special which is also why hes referred to as an anomaly by Windmark. So Walter at some point helps Donald to try save his son, doing it because September asked him to knowing he would be needed later on. September has seen the future and the way the Observers act. Hes seen as a good observer by the viewers so maybe he knows they need to be stopped and that Michael is the key and by keeping him save in this other timeline that eventually he will be the key to stopping them.

Arrghh I just want it to end so I can find out all the answers now, god dam Fringe. Kind of cool though that they are doing a simulcast for the finale like they did with Lost. So its on Sky and America at the same time!

CastorTroy

So Michael isn't a kid. Instead he's like Scrappy Doo(according to the Scooby Doo movie)?

Was just trying to remember, is Broyles alive or dead?

I think what Michael's part of the plan was, was to show Walter all those memories to help him stay as the good Walter.

And I'm still expecting a reset of some sort to happen in the finale.

The Black Oil

Better than 5.09.

5.10

Walter was pretty tetchy, eh? Shades of his 'there's only room for one god in this lab'.

There was a definite Nina death vibe to the episode. A shame, but she was defiant, and very human. I thought they were going to do a reveal at the end and it wasn't in fact her, but a facsimile or something.

I can buy the ECOG device more so than the gadget that picks phone calls from thin air, though it is 2036.

mewso

Good episode with one minor gripe. Walter saying "prep the object" was far too "hey kids remember he is turning into a nasty callous scientist" when nobody not even a callous scientist would say anything other than prep the subject. /nitpick

TwoShedsJackson

mewso wrote: »

Good episode with one minor gripe. Walter saying "prep the object" was far too "hey kids remember he is turning into a nasty callous scientist" when nobody not even a callous scientist would say anything other than prep the subject. /nitpick

Assuming you're talking about 13:25 into the episode, Walter does say 'prep the subject'.

challengemaster

mewso wrote: »

Good episode with one minor gripe. Walter saying "prep the object" was far too "hey kids remember he is turning into a nasty callous scientist" when nobody not even a callous scientist would say anything other than prep the subject. /nitpick

Get your ears cleaned He did say "subject"

mewso

Whoops apologies must have been hungover. I'll take ye're word for it. But if he had said it my point would have valid :pac:

Czarcasm

The Black Oil wrote: »

I can buy the ECOG device more so than the gadget that picks phone calls from thin air, though it is 2036.

The tech to pick up audio from glass vibrations has been around years in the real world. It's less of a stretch than it seems given that the observers can travel through time, they would have a device that can use time displacement and scan the glass for audio vibrations.

expectationlost

is donald donald after he was september or before?

The Black Oil

Czarcasm wrote: »

The tech to pick up audio from glass vibrations has been around years in the real world. It's less of a stretch than it seems given that the observers can travel through time, they would have a device that can use time displacement and scan the glass for audio vibrations.

Thanks...
Do you work for them? :mad:

:pac:

constantg

I'm not loving the new series, there are mahoosive gaps and they're littering the place.

I hate the new guns the guys use. I hate the fecking sneaking and all that stuff. If the observers were THAT good, they'd all be dead...

And to top it all off, why on earth did the observers invade?? To escape their own future?

Axwell

constantg wrote: »

And to top it all off, why on earth did the observers invade?? To escape their own future?

They environmentally ruin the earth in the future so they decide to travel back in time before his happened and colonize the earth.

constantg

Axwell wrote: »

They environmentally ruin the earth in the future so they decide to travel back in time before his happened and colonize the earth.

Don't buy it, they're already degrading the atmosphere here in order to wipe humanity out and allow them to breathe easier or something.

Plus why not go back to the early 20th century, or 1940s where culture and society were largely the same and they wouldn't have faced as much resistance.

No they came at a time relevant to the Bishops and Olivia and for a reason....

tvnutz

constantg wrote: »

Don't buy it, they're already degrading the atmosphere here in order to wipe humanity out and allow them to breathe easier or something.

Plus why not go back to the early 20th century, or 1940s where culture and society were largely the same and they wouldn't have faced as much resistance.

No they came at a time relevant to the Bishops and Olivia and for a reason....

What do you mean you don't buy it? It was already stated that was the reason why they invaded.

They are degrading the atmosphere because the atmosphere is too oxygen rich for them.

Kiith

Only caught up with this last night, and really enjoyed it. Figured Nina was going to die as she got so much time in the 'Previously on Fringe' bit, but it was still sad to see her go. She's been a great character over the 5 seasons. Was a good way to go though, and one last act of defiance

Really looking forward to watching the finale...and then starting all over again :P