Jesus of Nazareth : From the Baptism in the Jordan to the Transfiguration

hinault

I'm reading this book at the moment written by Pope Benedict XVI and I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised at how readable the book is.

The book analyses the life of Jesus Christ and manages to explain, in clear and simple language, the message of Christ and the symbolism throughout the Old and New Testament.

In short it is a masterpiece in my view.
And I would recommend it as a good read to Roman Catholics and other Christians alike

im invisible

any insights into what he did from the age of 12 to when he was 30?


edit, sorry, read baptism, thought baby

hinault

im invisible wrote: »

any insights into what he did from the age of 12 to when he was 30?


edit, sorry, read baptism, thought baby

Curiously there are some references in passing to Jesus life with His Parents.

Benedict refers to Jesus working with His earthly father Joseph in the workshop and His being an obedient child by honouring His parents.

Benedict goes to great lengths to explain that Jesus assumed the human condition so as to experience what all Mankind experiences in order to establish solidarity with us.

charlemont

im invisible wrote: »

any insights into what he did from the age of 12 to when he was 30?


edit, sorry, read baptism, thought baby

I reckon he went off on caravans to the East which a lot of young lads did in those days, His teachings supposedly were similar to some Hindu-Kush religious teachings, I seen a good TV show about it...

Onesimus

hinault wrote: »

I'm reading this book at the moment written by Pope Benedict XVI and I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised at how readable the book is.

The book analyses the life of Jesus Christ and manages to explain, in clear and simple language, the message of Christ and the symbolism throughout the Old and New Testament.

In short it is a masterpiece in my view.
And I would recommend it as a good read to Roman, Eastern Catholics and other Christians alike

See what I did there? :cool: lol

Any book by His Holiness is amazing

hinault

Onesimus wrote: »

See what I did there? :cool: lol

Any book by His Holiness is amazing

I see what you did there

Yes, the book is marvellous.
Difficult concepts are explained in simple and understandable language.

I have read that Joseph Ratzinger is not only a great thinker/intellectual, he was a great lecturer to his students.
I think this book is evidence of those qualities.

Seaneh

hinault wrote: »

Curiously there are some references in passing to Jesus life with His Parents.

Benedict refers to Jesus working with His earthly father Joseph in the workshop and His being an obedient child by honouring His parents.

Well, we know that this would be almost entirely inaccurate seeing as the word that was translated into "carpenter" doesn't actually mean carpenter and it's almost completely unlikely that Jesus and his daddy spent hours together in a workshop making things out of wood.

The word "tekton" or "tecton" (depends on whether it's mark of matthew) is translated as carpenter in the Bible, but it doesn't mean that at all. It means literally someone who works with their hands, or manual labourer. Odds are he worked in one of the local quarry's cutting stones for buildings as this was one of the major forms of employment in the area for poorer adult males. He could even have been a lowly farm hand.

The Jammy dodger

Seaneh wrote: »

Well, we know that this would be almost entirely inaccurate seeing as the word that was translated into "carpenter" doesn't actually mean carpenter and it's almost completely unlikely that Jesus and his daddy spent hours together in a workshop making things out of wood.

The word "tekton" or "tecton" (depends on whether it's mark of matthew) is translated as carpenter in the Bible, but it doesn't mean that at all. It means literally someone who works with their hands, or manual labourer. Odds are he worked in one of the local quarry's cutting stones for buildings as this was one of the major forms of employment in the area for poorer adult males. He could even have been a lowly farm hand.

Wrong

ar·tif·i·cer

[ahr-tif-uh-ser] Show IPA
noun 1. a person who is skillful or clever in devising ways of making things; inventor.

2. a skillful or artistic worker; craftsperson.

τέκτων
tektōn
tek'-tone
an artificer (as producer of fabrics), that is, (specifically) a craftsman in wood: - carpenter.

Seaneh

That is an extremely selective translation of the world Tekton/Tecton. And, funnily enough, an modern reverse application, based on the modern biblical translation of Tekton to mean carpenter. Not based on the reality of the word Tekton/Tecton.

philologos

I don't think it matters a great deal but here's what Strong's Concordance has for tekton:

1) a worker in wood, a carpenter, joiner, builder

a) a ship's carpenter or builder

2) any craftsman, or workman

a) the art of poetry, maker of songs

3) a planner, contriver, plotter

a) an author

tommy2bad

So Joseph was a property developer? or a subbie?

G-Money

I think this is the 3rd book in a trilogy he has written? Have you read either of the first two books? I am half considering buying the first one but I have to admit while I'm Catholic, I'm not the most knowledge person about religion and Jesus and I guess I'm a little concerned that it might not be very accessible.

What do you think?

Zillah

hinault wrote: »

Benedict goes to great lengths to explain that Jesus assumed the human condition so as to experience what all Mankind experiences in order to establish solidarity with us.

But...God is omniscient and omnipresent - he experiences every moment that each and every one of us experiences here on earth with us. This claim implies there is something God wasn't aware of. You people could at least keep this stuff internally consistent even if you're happy to abandon being consistent with reality.

georgieporgy

Originally Posted by hinault
Benedict goes to great lengths to explain that Jesus assumed the human condition so as to experience what all Mankind experiences in order to establish solidarity with us.

Zillah wrote: »

But...God is omniscient and omnipresent - he experiences every moment that each and every one of us experiences here on earth with us. This claim implies there is something God wasn't aware of. You people could at least keep this stuff internally consistent even if you're happy to abandon being consistent with reality.

You've misinterpretted Hinault's quote. Reread it and take note of the highlighted segment.

lmaopml

tommy2bad wrote: »

So Joseph was a property developer? or a subbie?

pml, he was a mere carpenter, that's all. That is, he was a person who worked hard with his hands to create things useful, that was his gift. A fathers craft...he was just a man, until he knew..

He probably didn't realise how trusted he would become...and I often feel for Joseph when he realised just how precious his mission was.

Thank you St.Joseph!

Doc Farrell

G-Money wrote: »

I think this is the 3rd book in a trilogy he has written? Have you read either of the first two books? I am half considering buying the first one but I have to admit while I'm Catholic, I'm not the most knowledge person about religion and Jesus and I guess I'm a little concerned that it might not be very accessible.

What do you think?

I haven't read this title but some of the Pope's writings can be quite academic and difficult. On the other hand he has also written introductions to saints such as 'doctors of the church' which are specifically for a general audience and very easy to read. My advice is to pick up a copy and have a quick browse. Many dozens of well known writers have written on the same subject, if you are concerned I think it's best to just walk into one of the Veritas shops around the country and browse away with a coffee until you find the subject and style that suits you.

Keylem

I have the audio book on my Kindle, haven't gotten around to reading it yet. I also have other books (yet to be read) by Benedict XVI, St. Paul and the Early Church Fathers! Looking forward to reading them in the New Year.