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Gaming pc upgrade

  • 18-12-2012 03:55AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44


    Hello all I'm looking to upgrade my gaming pc to intel from amd

    What I need is a new intel cpu,heatsink,motherboard,case and maybe a ssd

    I already have the amd 7970,8gb of ram,750w psu,amd fx4100 cpu and not sure of the motherboard

    Could you please point me in the right way for my new parts as I'm not sure what to get or where the best place is to get them

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    hardwareversand.de for everything

    Best choice for gaming is the i5 3570k if you're open to overclocking and don't need hyperthreading.

    Again, if you're overclocking you need a Z77 motherboard. Asrock are best bang for buck. Something like the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 or Pro4 depending on your needs.

    And the best SSD is the Samsung 830, although now discontinued (replaced by the 840). Crucial M4 also highly rated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Have you got a SSD for your boot/software loading?

    You seem to have system that is good enough for most games, but I haven't been gaming for a while now.

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-fx-4100-black-edition-1044553/review

    Intel chips are a lot dearer than AMD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    hardwareversand.de for everything

    Best choice for gaming is the i5 3570k if you're open to overclocking and don't need hyperthreading.

    Again, if you're overclocking you need a Z77 motherboard. Asrock are best bang for buck. Something like the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 or Pro4 depending on your needs.

    And the best SSD is the Samsung 830, although now discontinued (replaced by the 840). Crucial M4 also highly rated


    I have the new OCZ Vertex 4, no complaints and its really fast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Verygames11


    Thanks for the info guys.
    nucker wrote: »
    Have you got a SSD for your boot/software loading?

    You seem to have system that is good enough for most games, but I haven't been gaming for a while now.

    No not at the minute but looking to get one as I'm still using my old ide hdd

    I can run most games but not on high or ultra it can get very laggy for example world of warcraft on ultra runs at 20-40 fps it can get really laggy at times and that's a really old game now

    This goes for alot of games as well not just WoW, maybe I'm just looking for too much out of my pc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    Thanks for the info guys.



    No not at the minute but looking to get one as I'm still using my old ide hdd

    I can run most games but not on high or ultra it can get very laggy for example world of warcraft on ultra runs at 20-40 fps it can get really laggy at times and that's a really old game now

    This goes for alot of games as well not just WoW, maybe I'm just looking for too much out of my pc

    You should get yourself a decent SATA HDD 7200rpm that are really dirt cheap compared to SSD, preferably with 64mb cache


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    WoW on a 4100 and 7970 shouldn't be getting too choppy. Maybe download 3DMark06 and check what score you get and compare to similar systems.. could be a software issue (drivers etc)

    That said, the 3570K is a good jump for games over early bulldozer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    nucker wrote: »
    I have the new OCZ Vertex 4, no complaints and its really fast

    OCZ have a reputation for having SSD's fail, and there's even been proof of it from users on here.
    No not at the minute but looking to get one as I'm still using my old ide hdd

    You'll need a new SATA hard drive(s), nearly all new motherboards don't have IDE ports at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    OCZ have a reputation for having SSD's fail, and there's even been proof of it from users on here.



    The new Vertex 4? Not one failure or bsod related to the ssd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    nucker wrote: »
    The new Vertex 4? Not one failure or bsod related to the ssd

    OCZ in general. They have the worst reliability in terms of SSD. Average return rates in 2012 were 7.03%, with the highest returns being 9.52% on the Vertex 2 120gb. Just for comparison, Crucial's rate was 0.82%.

    Obviously the Vertex 4 is the latest addition, but going on past rates, anyone that knows anything about SSD's avoids them like the plague. They have a long way to claw back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I have had two OCZ SSD's fail on me. Would never buy an OCZ again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭nucker


    OCZ in general. They have the worst reliability in terms of SSD. Average return rates in 2012 were 7.03%, with the highest returns being 9.52% on the Vertex 2 120gb. Just for comparison, Crucial's rate was 0.82%.

    Obviously the Vertex 4 is the latest addition, but going on past rates, anyone that knows anything about SSD's avoids them like the plague. They have a long way to claw back.


    I know what you mean, I had even HDDs fail on me that were in their fail safety usage. Since the Deathstar failed on me years ago, no matter who is going to convince me to buy one is simply wasting their time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,505 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    The Samsung 830 series are great..you can still pick them up on dabs.ie..get the 256g model. A steal at €180 approx..
    The 840 series are overrpriced and are getting worse reviews as they'e not performing any better than the 830 for the price
    difference.
    I'd definitely pick Intel over AMD now...AMD are so far behind it's not even funny now which is a real pity as they really kicked Intel's asses when they were stagnating over the Pentium 4 era. It taughtt Intel a valuable lesson not to rest on their laurels and in fairness to them their CPUs since then has all been excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Blazer wrote: »
    The Samsung 830 series are great..you can still pick them up on dabs.ie..get the 256g model. A steal at €180 approx..
    The 840 series are overrpriced and are getting worse reviews as they'e not performing any better than the 830 for the price
    difference.
    I'd definitely pick Intel over AMD now...AMD are so far behind it's not even funny now which is a real pity as they really kicked Intel's asses when they were stagnating over the Pentium 4 era. It taughtt Intel a valuable lesson not to rest on their laurels and in fairness to them their CPUs since then has all been excellent.
    **I'm not much of an expert**

    In fairness, AMD's CPUs are a heck of a lot cheaper. You get what you pay for really. The Phenom range is fantastic as a sub 100 quad core. Granted some of their newer architecture is poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,505 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    yeah they're grand for cheap notebooks etc but even though some of the cheaper ones struggle against the celeron processors.
    Definitely not for gaming though..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    Blazer wrote: »
    yeah they're grand for cheap notebooks etc but even though some of the cheaper ones struggle against the celeron processors.
    Definitely not for gaming though..

    For single threaded performance, yes, I think you're right. But you can have quad cores for sub 100 euro, and though they're beaten core for core, it's still a quad core which can be utilise in other ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Verygames11


    Thanks for all the info guys.

    I'm going to go with the i5 3570k, ASRock Z77 Pro4, and the Samsung spin point F3 1TB hdd.

    I'm going to hold off on getting the ssd for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,505 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Thanks for all the info guys.

    I'm going to go with the i5 3570k, ASRock Z77 Pro4, and the Samsung spin point F3 1TB hdd.

    I'm going to hold off on getting the ssd for now.

    man buy that SSD :D
    Whatever about the boost you'll get from the others you'll be amazed at the SSD speeds :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Verygames11


    Blazer wrote: »
    man buy that SSD :D
    Whatever about the boost you'll get from the others you'll be amazed at the SSD speeds :D

    Will it give me a boost in games or just load them faster?

    I would love to get one but they are a bit dear for the low space they have on them.

    If it will give me a good boost in games I will get one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    No boost at all apart from time taken to load programs / windows initially, or in some rare instances - read times of large textures/etc in some games.

    Even then, Asrock boards have a quickboot feature... so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Verygames11


    No boost at all apart from time taken to load programs / windows initially, or in some rare instances - read times of large textures/etc in some games.

    Even then, Asrock boards have a quickboot feature... so...

    I gave in and got the Samsung SSD 840 250GB SATA 6Gb/s :D


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