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Can a case be taken against me if I no longer live in Ireland

  • 14-12-2012 11:54am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭


    I received an email from a creditor who I owe money to from a business I had that closed 2 years ago. I no longer live in ireland and informed the contact of that.
    Can they still issue proceedings against me when they know I no longer live in the Jurisdiction


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Short answer: yes. Especially if you're still in the EU, you can be chased across the jurisdictions for your debt.

    If you're outside the EU you can't really be chased, but if you're found to be in breach of a court order requiring you to pay the debt, you can be arrested if you ever return to Ireland.

    Your best course of action is to engage an Irish solicitor to find out fully what your options are and what the possible ramifications are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 migu


    Not true you cannot be pursued for a debt as it is considered a civil matter not a criminal matter. I was told this by a barrister. The line that you will be arrested upon your return to the country is just scaremongering to make you tow the line like a good little slave, sleep easy you have nothing to fear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭kkelliher


    if you have any assets in Ireland they could be used for payment of the debt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭GullibleOne


    migu wrote: »
    Not true you cannot be pursued for a debt as it is considered a civil matter not a criminal matter. I was told this by a barrister. The line that you will be arrested upon your return to the country is just scaremongering to make you tow the line like a good little slave, sleep easy you have nothing to fear
    who owes money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭solarplexus


    who owes money

    I do personally, Its 4k


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    migu wrote: »
    Not true you cannot be pursued for a debt as it is considered a civil matter not a criminal matter. I was told this by a barrister. The line that you will be arrested upon your return to the country is just scaremongering to make you tow the line like a good little slave, sleep easy you have nothing to fear
    A fella once told me that I was sitting on his barstool.

    He couldn't back that up either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    For 4 grand they are not going to chase you far beyond this country. It is not cost effective.

    Arrest on return to Ireland? Ah get real folks. Do you think the Gardaí have nothing better to be doing? There is no list of debtors maintained at our ports of entry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    For 4 grand they are not going to chase you far beyond this country. It is not cost effective.

    Arrest on return to Ireland? Ah get real folks. Do you think the Gardaí have nothing better to be doing? There is no list of debtors maintained at our ports of entry.

    Agreed, but Migu stated that proceedings for a debt cannot be issued against a debtor who is out of the jurisdiction because it is a civil matter.

    I'd like to see the law that states that.

    I'd like to know what barrister said that. I have my suspicions.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    If the creditor knows full well the debtor is outside the jurisdiction they will have problems with service of documents. They would need to know where the debtor is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    migu wrote: »
    Not true you cannot be pursued for a debt as it is considered a civil matter not a criminal matter. I was told this by a barrister. The line that you will be arrested upon your return to the country is just scaremongering to make you tow the line like a good little slave, sleep easy you have nothing to fear

    True, extra territorial mareva injunction or brusells 1 which can be enforced by the court where you are. Depends what country you are in.
    Also if the creditor knows you're back in Ireland Bayer injunction can stop you leaving again. Both civil remedies.
    Would need judgement against you first.
    Likelihood? Slim.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Unless you are a Quinn owing millions no one is going to bother with such expensive legal remedies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    godeas16 wrote: »
    True, extra territorial mareva injunction or brusells 1 which can be enforced by the court where you are. Depends what country you are in.
    Also if the creditor knows you're back in Ireland Bayer injunction can stop you leaving again. Both civil remedies.
    Would need judgement against you first.
    Likelihood? Slim.

    I very much doubt if a Bayer injunction would be granted for a 4k debt, maybe in the quinn's case but the threshold to get such an injunction would be almost impossibly high considering our constitution and the free movement in the EU treaty.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    This can be done. End of Story.

    "A Barrister told me so" - Is like suggesting that the cat ate my homework.


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